tilting more

move down to NL50 for a month?

do you have a DC account?

The most demoralizing downswings are the ones that come right after you started having huge success and moving up limits. You quickly went from NL100 to NL200 and a long shot of NL400 so I'm sure in your head you had marked yourself as a NL400 player. Then as the downswing continues and you realize that NL400 isn't a reality anymore and NL200 is slipping away and you're back to NL100 it can be really devastating. Why? Cause YOU made the mistake of labeling yourself as a NL400 player.

Take a break. A few days at least. That's the only thing you can do. Take at least 2 days where you don't think about poker at all, and then come back into poker very slowly and focus on studying first rather than playing.

I have free cardrunners

How can I spend a month of my life playing nl50 .. I can't even bring myself to spend a month of my life playing nl100 for god's sake.

On November 05 2009 10:51 k2o4 wrote: The most demoralizing downswings are the ones that come right after you started having huge success and moving up limits. You quickly went from NL100 to NL200 and a long shot of NL400 so I'm sure in your head you had marked yourself as a NL400 player. Then as the downswing continues and you realize that NL400 isn't a reality anymore and NL200 is slipping away and you're back to NL100 it can be really devastating. Why? Cause YOU made the mistake of labeling yourself as a NL400 player. Take a break. A few days at least. That's the only thing you can do. Take at least 2 days where you don't think about poker at all, and then come back into poker very slowly and focus on studying first rather than playing.

Nah I didn't think of myself as nl400 but surely nl200 level. Many of these guys play so fucking horrendous.. I swear to god. But yeah you're basically right.

play hon for 1 week, climb the raitingladder and then come back and pwn 100nl^_^

i remember you saying you depend on your poker money right? i think for people at our level its really marginal to live off of that money and maybe if you didnt have to depend on it, it would take a lot of pressure off of your game.

On November 05 2009 10:51 k2o4 wrote: The most demoralizing downswings are the ones that come right after you started having huge success and moving up limits. You quickly went from NL100 to NL200 and a long shot of NL400 so I'm sure in your head you had marked yourself as a NL400 player. Then as the downswing continues and you realize that NL400 isn't a reality anymore and NL200 is slipping away and you're back to NL100 it can be really devastating. Why? Cause YOU made the mistake of labeling yourself as a NL400 player. Take a break. A few days at least. That's the only thing you can do. Take at least 2 days where you don't think about poker at all, and then come back into poker very slowly and focus on studying first rather than playing.

well said, i got this syndrome too, good post.

Do you have free CR through ftp points?

On November 05 2009 10:57 street_hooker wrote: Do you have free CR through ftp points?

yes

Ok, you labeled yourself as NL200 player who takes NL400 shots, which sounds a lot "bigger" than "Struggling NL100 player" which is what you suddenly feel like, and that huge gap in your head makes you feel even worse than you need to.

I say all this cause it's basically what happened to me too - I finally moved to NL200 after a bunch of shots and cruised, started NL400 shots and then crashed to NL100 again. And I did the same overall thing in my head and when I realized what I was doing and got rid of it, I got back on track.

I hear you, yah you're pretty much right. I am tryin ofc.

I guess it isn't a totally unfamiliar feeling for other poker players.. most experience at some point.. just crushed after an extended period of being beat on..


thanks all.

I feel for ya man, not fun to be in your state of mind.

"I'm super depressed/constantly upset and obviously this is horrible for poker and for the rest of my life.. which really doesn't even seem to exist atm, as my life is all poker-fail all the time lately."

This is why you're losing. Take a break, don't touch poker, don't think about poker. Learn to quit. You control poker, poker doesn't control you.



And you still haven't added me on msn

know the feeling, been there recently and def a good idea to move down and regroup for a while.

On November 05 2009 10:55 longple wrote: play hon for 1 week, climb the raitingladder and then come back and pwn 100nl^_^

I don't know if this is true, but heard some talk about HoN having some potentially HUGE security flaws:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=105041

On November 05 2009 11:27 Zelniq wrote: Show nested quote + On November 05 2009 10:39 ibutoss wrote:   On November 05 2009 09:59 Licmyobelisk wrote: It's official now that playing HoN sucks because the Sys Admins have no idea about fucking security... Credibility wise, I believe it is more likely that testie just happened to get his pc compromised in comparison to S2 games being hacked. We'd be seeing a lot more HoN accounts hacked if this had occurred. yeah it makes absolutely no sense for S2/hon admins/mods/staff to have access to user's passwords. i highly doubt this is what happened, there must have been some other way this guy hacked your account

On November 05 2009 11:49 MYM.Testie wrote: No they have plaintext passwords or something apparently. I don't know what that means but yeah ;o

On November 05 2009 10:54 Night2o1 wrote: I have free cardrunners How can I spend a month of my life playing nl50 .. I can't even bring myself to spend a month of my life playing nl100 for god's sake.

Seriously try it. When I first tried this it was pleasantly refreshing, because I wasnt looking at it in terms of $$$, but more like in terms of BB's. So therefore I focused on my game, and being overrolled I had total confidence, and it felt really good to pwn a limit again.

On November 05 2009 10:58 Night2o1 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 05 2009 10:57 street_hooker wrote: Do you have free CR through ftp points? yes

Are you sure your rakeback isn't effected by it? Where exactly did you go to do this o.O

google for Truly Free Poker Training, its really easy to set up/find that way, hooker

sorry freak slipped my mind ^^ good point.. I think I just gotta chill for a little bit then grind out 20k hands at a hopefully respectable winrate at nl100 and have $2k more to chill with (since I'm going to have a nice rb and bonus hopefully @ gutshot, so I will be getting some sick rakeback).

..


thanks tianyuan looking into this...
WOW EVERYONE WITH HON--WHATEVER PW U USED WITH THAT ACCOUNT IS COMPROMISED. If you use your HON password with any other logins anywhere on the internet, you need to change it.

Wow what an enormous pain in the ass..

lol i'm totally in your shoes right now. i've just been playing fucking league of legends (another dota clone) and thinking fuck poker =

Asian porn. Watch it and furiously beat off.

Also - Never split small rolls. Its tilting.

On November 05 2009 13:12 Maynard! wrote: Also - Never split small rolls. Its tilting.

QFT

we did a session and I pointed out a fair amount of things u had to work on and really that was just fundamental more basic things since I can't give u too many things to work on at once and u cant go up a level until u have levels below
mastered' etc. Then never heard from you again. So if ur serious about getting back on track u need to lose the negative feelings and do whatever it takes to get back to winning.

So getting someone to help you with ur leaks esp if ur moving down (which is what I think u should do to work on these things are u get try and regain that feeling of winning and cofidence which is ever so important in poker). If u don't want to work with me np, but do try and find someone who can help. I even offered that u could send me HHs after the session we had which u never even did.

Don't look at it as a failure but as a constructive move down in limits to work on some aspects of ur game. Everytime I moved down I focused on things I felt I needed to improve on some new things I wanted to add in my game, as opposed to just thinking negatively as in 'oh I suck I'm moving down to play with theese players who suck'. That mentality will basically ensure failure.

also Freak offered u his msn which looks like u never took him up on it. He thinks at a very high level and can def help you with your game so would be a waste to not take him up on that.

what i would give to have a 6k bankroll just for poker like you do. hopefully things turn around for you man. you obv got the skill. just gotta focus. me i got the focus but no skill lol... I rather be in your shoes then mine. you can regain your focus back at any time. .The skill however is priceless.

Freak is a wise man, listen to him.

On November 05 2009 13:40 VeGeTTa89 wrote: what i would give to have a 6k bankroll just for poker like you do. hopefully things turn around for you man. you obv got the skill. just gotta focus. me i got the focus but no skill lol... I rather be in your shoes then mine. you can regain your focus back at any time. .The skill however is priceless.

I wish I still liked playing poker even half as much as you appear to .

also, gl Terren. Sounds like you are doing everything right to rebuild and get your mind right. I agree with others saying take a cpl days off before you move back down. You'd be amazed at how much a confidence boost from crushing a lower limit can do for your game.

I think you have some Ego issues and some other psychological issues you need to deal with. May I suggest you take time out and read The Poker Mindset , as it may help sort out your poker state of mind.

Good luck man. I hope you run better. Do something to get your mind off of it. And don't force yourself to play too much. That can lead to more tilt and more importantly unhappiness.

please take everyones advice for the last 3 blogs and take a break, then restart at a lower limit for a bit

Clearly take some time to prepare for fnatic's HoN tourney, duh

restart from nl2, make 5 buyins each limit. if u dont have the discipline to play lower and not spew then quit poker.

On November 05 2009 15:12 palak wrote: please take everyones advice for the last 3 blogs and take a break, then restart at a lower limit for a bit

yah I am goin to try, i guess it'll be easier if half of my roll isn't even online anyways. just hard to stay away when I really don't have much else to do + I have a burning desire to win money(even tho I simply can't atm lols)

On November 05 2009 16:06 Night2o1 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 05 2009 15:12 palak wrote: please take everyones advice for the last 3 blogs and take a break, then restart at a lower limit for a bit yah I am goin to try, i guess it'll be easier if half of my roll isn't even online anyways. just hard to stay away when I really don't have much else to do + I have a burning desire to win money(even tho I simply can't atm lols)

get a hobby ...r u ripped as fuck, if not go to a gym for a few hours a day, or play a sport, or something

word, been meaning to start working out and shit but I've been wanting to get my poker in order.. i guess i shuld work on the other shit -_-

D_Zoo knows

On November 05 2009 10:51 k2o4 wrote: The most demoralizing downswings are the ones that come right after you started having huge success and moving up limits. You quickly went from NL100 to NL200 and a long shot of NL400 so I'm sure in your head you had marked yourself as a NL400 player. Then as the downswing continues and you realize that NL400 isn't a reality anymore and NL200 is slipping away and you're back to NL100 it can be really devastating. Why? Cause YOU made the mistake of labeling yourself as a NL400 player. Take a break. A few days at least. That's the only thing you can do. Take at least 2 days where you don't think about poker at all, and then come back into poker very slowly and focus on studying first rather than playing.

this sounds about right

just suck it up and grind terren and im sure you'll be fine. gl

ive not been winning for four months since moving up to 200nl now i play 50nl , played worse and life tilted like hell plus had the worst and longest downswing after 2 years, i hated playing poker but somehow was addicted to it and got used to losing, how depressing is that? things will turn around coz they always do if you keep a straight head

On November 05 2009 19:36 whamm! wrote: ive not been winning for four months since moving up to 200nl now i play 50nl , played worse and life tilted like hell plus had the worst and longest downswing after 2 years, i hated playing poker but somehow was addicted to it and got used to losing, how depressing is that? things will turn around coz they always do if you keep a straight head

yeah man that sucks, I can kind of see what you're saying too.. the tilty state of mind is so sick..

On November 05 2009 12:35 Night2o1 wrote: google for Truly Free Poker Training, its really easy to set up/find that way, hooker sorry freak slipped my mind ^^ good point.. I think I just gotta chill for a little bit then grind out 20k hands at a hopefully respectable winrate at nl100 and have $2k more to chill with (since I'm going to have a nice rb and bonus hopefully @ gutshot, so I will be getting some sick rakeback). .. thanks tianyuan looking into this... WOW EVERYONE WITH HON--WHATEVER PW U USED WITH THAT ACCOUNT IS COMPROMISED. If you use your HON password with any other logins anywhere on the internet, you need to change it. Wow what an enormous pain in the ass..

Well, I don't know if it's true for sure, he could just have had a keylogger or something But yeah, worth being careful at least.

Oh I see I must of misunderstood what I read in the thread, was mostly skimming through. I am working on changing all of my pws anyway ahhhh I have like 10 different passwords to remember if I end up at a site I can't remember my pw for lol