Iran Uprising - Page 8

This is the thoughts in the streets of Iran.

On June 24 2009 20:57 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2009 05:57 palak wrote:   On June 24 2009 02:43 Baal wrote: yeah, the Japanese decided to attack a country that could overturn the overwhelming victory just out of a fucking whim, that makes sense, rofl. . Many people in Japan thought that they (the axis) would be able to defeat the US with a crippling attack on Pearl Harbor. There were only a small few who thought that Pearl Harbor was a bad idea.. Hence why the japanese general said quote of "I'm afraid we may have woken a sleeping giant." Is so famous The japanese believed in the supremacy of the yamato race and even before the WW2 they thought the americans were barbaric retards and even considered some kind of demon for the closest followers to the bushido. However Hiroito wasnt deluded into such belief, reason why he reluctantly joined the axis alliance, when he rather allied with Great Britain. Hiroito was aware of the power and extension of China and was concerned about it and was even more concerned about the possible intervention of Russia from the North. The american diplomatic hostilities towards japan were at its max when they seized all assets from japanese and took japanese captives in concentration like camps, so Hirohito made a last effort to not fight in the pacific and announced that in order for them to not go to war they would require no intervention in their conquest of south east asia and to remove the embargoes and hostilities towards japanese in america but he got no response. After that Hirohito reluctantly attacked pearl harbor totally aware of the dangers of fighting in the pacific, there is actually documented a big scold to his generals about this when they claimed that a victory in the pacific would be easy and Hiroito calling them liars even before the battle begun. Dont insist man, i am clearly more informed than you about this issue by far.

I don't get how what u said and what I said are different? I just said many japanese thought the US could be defeated which u seemed to agree with. You just said the Hirohito was one of the people who didn't think that Japan could really beat the US

On June 25 2009 02:11 palak wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2009 20:57 Baal wrote:   On June 24 2009 05:57 palak wrote:   On June 24 2009 02:43 Baal wrote: yeah, the Japanese decided to attack a country that could overturn the overwhelming victory just out of a fucking whim, that makes sense, rofl. . Many people in Japan thought that they (the axis) would be able to defeat the US with a crippling attack on Pearl Harbor. There were only a small few who thought that Pearl Harbor was a bad idea.. Hence why the japanese general said quote of "I'm afraid we may have woken a sleeping giant." Is so famous The japanese believed in the supremacy of the yamato race and even before the WW2 they thought the americans were barbaric retards and even considered some kind of demon for the closest followers to the bushido. However Hiroito wasnt deluded into such belief, reason why he reluctantly joined the axis alliance, when he rather allied with Great Britain. Hiroito was aware of the power and extension of China and was concerned about it and was even more concerned about the possible intervention of Russia from the North. The american diplomatic hostilities towards japan were at its max when they seized all assets from japanese and took japanese captives in concentration like camps, so Hirohito made a last effort to not fight in the pacific and announced that in order for them to not go to war they would require no intervention in their conquest of south east asia and to remove the embargoes and hostilities towards japanese in america but he got no response. After that Hirohito reluctantly attacked pearl harbor totally aware of the dangers of fighting in the pacific, there is actually documented a big scold to his generals about this when they claimed that a victory in the pacific would be easy and Hiroito calling them liars even before the battle begun. Dont insist man, i am clearly more informed than you about this issue by far. I don't get how what u said and what I said are different? I just said many japanese thought the US could be defeated which u seemed to agree with. You just said the Hirohito was one of the people who didn't think that Japan could really beat the US

ROFL and Hirohito is the fucking divine emperor and absolute power that dictates on Japan....

I just went into detail of why japan attacked the US and it was because of the frozen of assets, imprisonment of japanese living in USA and the economical embargoes they did against the japanese.

heh. i've decided to do some research, basically based on capaneo's claims.

i want you all to know, first off, i have ZERO preference. i don't fucking care for retarded stupid GROUP A, or retarded stupid GROUP B. you comparing this to a true revolution is a joke. that's the truth.

capa, i've checked out most of these so called "omg, see how complicated it is!!!!" pics, and well, they all show typical destruction. again, you're not showing any sense. you're showing support for another "cleric" so that he can be the "supreme leader" and govern the "guardian council". tell you what. tell your buddy, ah'mad, ah'mad, ali, and ah'mad to start fucking thinking.

once we all start thinking, we may improve progress.

until then, allah magma!!!!

This is the beginning stage of a revolution that can go either way.
If either party wins the current stage of conflict there will be changes in the constitution of Iran.
If left wins the role of supreme leader will be less powerful
While If right wins the leader will become even more powerful and the "republic" part of the current regime will either be completely wiped out or it will be just a formality.

My evidence?

He is sitting with his mentors that he admits too. They are the most radical Shitte Islamic groups in the world.

If you dont speak farsi. He is LITERALLY saying what I just said about getting rid of the Republican part of the regime.
He calls it the Islamic Government. And he says this is the next difficult phase that we are moving on too. And he says the society is ready for this new phase now.
Btw read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haghani_Circle

And this is why some powerful Shiite cleric are against them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hojjatieh#cite_note-5


Note: Im not talking his speech out of context to creat some conspiracy. This is his entire speech and its VERY clear to farsi speakers.
Btw what did you read? And where? Im just interested.

Btw. Fake or real. One of the best pics Ive seen.

I think this is fake. Just to give you an idea. doing this can legally put you in jail. And can easily get you killed.

On June 25 2009 02:39 Racist Dragon wrote: heh. i've decided to do some research, basically based on capaneo's claims. i want you all to know, first off, i have ZERO preference. i don't fucking care for retarded stupid GROUP A, or retarded stupid GROUP B. you comparing this to a true revolution is a joke. that's the truth. capa, i've checked out most of these so called "omg, see how complicated it is!!!!" pics, and well, they all show typical destruction. again, you're not showing any sense. you're showing support for another "cleric" so that he can be the "supreme leader" and govern the "guardian council". tell you what. tell your buddy, ah'mad, ah'mad, ali, and ah'mad to start fucking thinking. once we all start thinking, we may improve progress. until then, allah magma!!!!

On June 25 2009 04:51 capaneo wrote: Btw. Fake or real. One of the best pics Ive seen. I think this is fake. Just to give you an idea. doing this can legally put you in jail. And can easily get you killed.

im not 100% sure, a brief analysis:

- There is some weird pixelation around her hand making it look fake, however there is also weird pixelation around the green sticker on the car (that obv isnt shopped) so it could be pixelation from picture compression.

- Its weird that he isnt directly seeing her considering she is stopping and very very close to the car, however it could be on purpose like trying to ignore or not acknowledge the insult.

- The ligh source matches EXACTLY on her and the rest of the pic, that is extremely difficult thing to find while photoshoping, especially when there is so much contrast between light and shadow.

- There is no different in tones or contrast.

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So imo this is a REAL picture, not totally sure but id say 70% it is.

On June 25 2009 02:24 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 25 2009 02:11 palak wrote:   On June 24 2009 20:57 Baal wrote:   On June 24 2009 05:57 palak wrote:   On June 24 2009 02:43 Baal wrote: yeah, the Japanese decided to attack a country that could overturn the overwhelming victory just out of a fucking whim, that makes sense, rofl. . Many people in Japan thought that they (the axis) would be able to defeat the US with a crippling attack on Pearl Harbor. There were only a small few who thought that Pearl Harbor was a bad idea.. Hence why the japanese general said quote of "I'm afraid we may have woken a sleeping giant." Is so famous The japanese believed in the supremacy of the yamato race and even before the WW2 they thought the americans were barbaric retards and even considered some kind of demon for the closest followers to the bushido. However Hiroito wasnt deluded into such belief, reason why he reluctantly joined the axis alliance, when he rather allied with Great Britain. Hiroito was aware of the power and extension of China and was concerned about it and was even more concerned about the possible intervention of Russia from the North. The american diplomatic hostilities towards japan were at its max when they seized all assets from japanese and took japanese captives in concentration like camps, so Hirohito made a last effort to not fight in the pacific and announced that in order for them to not go to war they would require no intervention in their conquest of south east asia and to remove the embargoes and hostilities towards japanese in america but he got no response. After that Hirohito reluctantly attacked pearl harbor totally aware of the dangers of fighting in the pacific, there is actually documented a big scold to his generals about this when they claimed that a victory in the pacific would be easy and Hiroito calling them liars even before the battle begun. Dont insist man, i am clearly more informed than you about this issue by far. I don't get how what u said and what I said are different? I just said many japanese thought the US could be defeated which u seemed to agree with. You just said the Hirohito was one of the people who didn't think that Japan could really beat the US ROFL and Hirohito is the fucking divine emperor and absolute power that dictates on Japan.... I just went into detail of why japan attacked the US and it was because of the frozen of assets, imprisonment of japanese living in USA and the economical embargoes they did against the japanese.

cant wage wars without steal and oil

On June 25 2009 04:51 capaneo wrote: Btw. Fake or real. One of the best pics Ive seen. I think this is fake. Just to give you an idea. doing this can legally put you in jail. And can easily get you killed.

im pretty sure this is fake. the light source for the car is pretty ambient, whereas for the girl its uni directional and very contrasted

edit; also considering her back is more lit, there is no hint of shadow

also analysing pixelation is wrong cos its a lossy jpg image and says nothing.

this belong in the ROFL thread but Iran is claiming that the CIA shot Neda

someone insert that gif of the black star trek guy shaking his head

why are you comparing the car reflection when its a flat surface? compare her clothes to the clothes of the guys on top of the car, you will see it matches perfectly

so on facebook i expressed lack of sympathy for michael jacksons death when 50 ppl died in iraq today and many protesters were shot in iran. this is the most tilting thing anyone has ever said to me:

I take it your a refuge and thats your people diein, so what countries like that have many problems yet can keep on havin sex to produce more when they are at war or cant feed them self let alone another child but that dont bother them they carry on producin more kids. All i said was give him a break he HAS only just died. Oh and he was a legend!

shes talking about iran btw

On June 25 2009 18:48 genjix wrote: so on facebook i expressed lack of sympathy for michael jacksons death when 50 ppl died in iraq today and many protesters were shot in iran. this is the most tilting thing anyone has ever said to me: Show nested quote + I take it your a refuge and thats your people diein, so what countries like that have many problems yet can keep on havin sex to produce more when they are at war or cant feed them self let alone another child but that dont bother them they carry on producin more kids. All i said was give him a break he HAS only just died. Oh and he was a legend! shes talking about iran btw

She must give killer blow jobs... if that is not the case then i suggest you being more selective with your friendships

On June 25 2009 18:48 genjix wrote: so on facebook i expressed lack of sympathy for michael jacksons death when 50 ppl died in iraq today and many protesters were shot in iran. this is the most tilting thing anyone has ever said to me: Show nested quote + I take it your a refuge and thats your people diein, so what countries like that have many problems yet can keep on havin sex to produce more when they are at war or cant feed them self let alone another child but that dont bother them they carry on producin more kids. All i said was give him a break he HAS only just died. Oh and he was a legend! shes talking about iran btw

I thought the Iraq war was over. I never see it on the news anymore. It just kinda went away after Obama was elected. Where is all the uproar now?

On June 26 2009 06:22 ToTehEastSide wrote:

Only if you are sympathetic to their cause is this video depicting 'police brutality'. Couldn't it just be crowd dispersal? They aren't shooting anyone, they are merely holding a position. They aren't chasing people down the streets. It looks like crowd control to me.

lets not derail the thread imo

My point? The action and the reaction are the same, only the cause is different. Police brutality, deaths, troops in the streets, and the riot has to be put down. Order has to be restored, and rioting is not productive, unless you can gather the sympathy of the western world for your cause I guess. And while I do in fact empathize with the plight of the oppressed people of Iran, what I see going on in the streets in these youtube videos is anarchy and shouldn't be encouraged. Instead we should be encouraging them to work politically to change their nation.