10 10 vs short stack nl100 - Page 2

you are overthinking bro
There is nothing to think in this hand actually
You have TT you raise pre
He call
You cbet a decent flop
He call
You are committed
You put him all in
Thats all

Also fish LOVE to float flop with ANY TWO
So him calling your cbet mean nothing
I always put it in on turn and expect to have the best hand

On June 16 2009 14:22 Newblish wrote: i think floating any ace is 100% horrible here are you kidding? lol -_- i think if he has any piece of this board he has to shove if he thinks ill fold or that he can win otherwise flatting can only be good if he has a King in my eyes. I could be wrong and i might be since i cant give alot of these people credit for thinking that deep, but at the same time i think its also stupid to call anything but Kx in a 3bet pot(for his calling range on the flop i mean) so.. i also think open shoving preflop is bad.. getting absolutely no value like that.

Wait..
Do you think this guy is good?
Do you think peoples are good?
Yeah floating an ace is horrible...actually if he have an ace worth a preflop call he should have shoved pre
BUT HE SUX
PEOPLE ARE BAD AND KEEP DOING SOMES RETARDED THINGS
Stop thinking everyone play like you
Stop thinking that others players THINK THEY DONT
So yeah hes claling flop with A high or a gutshot or bottom pair or w/e shit he have
He call flop any 2 very often

lol 20bb villain

why is this a topic?

On June 18 2009 09:05 Twisted wrote: lol 20bb villain why is this a topic?

why do you take your time to comment?

Ok,

My best assumption is to have just bet the flop a little smaller to give the guy room to bluff shove any 2 and then just get rest in on any turn if he does decide to flat. Its pretty simple, the whole problem was simply putting him on a range for flatting(which i felt most smart thinking opponents could only do here if they had a K). Obviously of course i never assumed that he was a deep thinker or w/e but we cant just dismiss this shit.. thats why this is a thread. Bewcause ultimately just saying "im committed" when he shows you Kx can still suck even if hes short.

This btw is a general idea i wanted to discuss in all situations with any medium PP. Where is the line to 3bet vs short stack? With 77/88/99/1010 we are always going to see overcards.. and to just say "well im practically committed on lots of flops" seems REAL spewy.

anyway, thanks for input. Though i guess it was a bit overanalyzed

On June 18 2009 09:05 Twisted wrote: lol 20bb villain why is this a topic?

This was my initial thought lol

on a range for flatting(which i felt most smart thinking opponents could only do here if they had a K)

that doesn't mean that they are a smart thinking opponent - it just means they think on level 1, just like you do