capaneo   Canada. Oct 30 2008 22:25. Posts 8465
The whole point that Im trying to make is the same as what Naz is saying.
This IS bad for poker in general. And one guy is pushing the envelope portrating all poker players as slobs AGAIN.
IMO everyone who doesnt think playing poker and making money means you live your life like a slob should be at least mad at this.
Its like the black comunity in US. People like Dr. King and many others started to change the standard portrait of a black man. Trying to show the world that not all black men are gangsters and not all of the black girls are whores. Promoting that black people should goto school and get educated. Some black people also wear a suite and give out speeches about freedom.
Now we have this new black generation who IS painting all the blacks as gangsters and all the girls as bitches and trying to say that we shoot each other!! This is REALLY REALLY messed up. And this is what ADZ is doing here.
something like this
In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber
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Maynard!   United States. Oct 30 2008 23:01. Posts 4453
On October 30 2008 21:25 capaneo wrote:
The whole point that Im trying to make is the same as what Naz is saying.
This IS bad for poker in general. And one guy is pushing the envelope portrating all poker players as slobs AGAIN.
IMO everyone who doesnt think playing poker and making money means you live your life like a slob should be at least mad at this.
Its like the black comunity in US. People like Dr. King and many others started to change the standard portrait of a black man. Trying to show the world that not all black men are gangsters and not all of the black girls are whores. Promoting that black people should goto school and get educated. Some black people also wear a suite and give out speeches about freedom.
Now we have this new black generation who IS painting all the blacks as gangsters and all the girls as bitches and trying to say that we shoot each other!! This is REALLY REALLY messed up. And this is what ADZ is doing here.
something like this
Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.
Last edit: 30/10/2008 23:03
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capaneo   Canada. Oct 30 2008 23:31. Posts 8465
I dont %100 agree with what Cosby is saying btw. But he is trying to make the same point. Some people are just going way off. Thinking that whatever you do to make money is a smart thing and therefore is the right thing.
I dont know maynard is trying to say but posting that pic. I dont know Maynard at all but he doesnt struck me as someone very intellectual. Do you care to explain what you mean Maynard or you just trying to look cool by posting random stuff on internet forum??
In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber
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Maynard!   United States. Oct 31 2008 00:16. Posts 4453
On October 30 2008 22:31 capaneo wrote:
I dont %100 agree with what Cosby is saying btw. But he is trying to make the same point. Some people are just going way off. Thinking that whatever you do to make money is a smart thing and therefore is the right thing.
I dont know maynard is trying to say but posting that pic. I dont know Maynard at all but he doesnt struck me as someone very intellectual. Do you care to explain what you mean Maynard or you just trying to look cool by posting random stuff on internet forum??
Your analogy sickens me far more than anything ADZ/Baller related could ever do. You're a fucking poker player for christs sake. You play fucking cards for money. Don't you dare even make some retarded analogy about black disenfranchisement and their lack of role models to the image poker players portray.
Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.
Last edit: 31/10/2008 00:17
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 31 2008 00:36. Posts 9634
IMO everyone who doesnt think playing poker and making money means you live your life like a slob should be at least mad at this.
Never thought of this that way, mainly because i never judge people coz of the community they belong to race/etcetc.The main images of white people black people etc.etc. is one of the most retarded stuff the human has thought of and they are totally out of line.Every person counts for himself and is diffferent from any other.So what i mean is I know there are people that when u start speaking about someone black and they r like " OMG this nigger he s prolly a gangster he kills ppl etc etc. " without actually knowing the guy but those people are plainly retarded.So now indeed what i mean is One person shouldnt be able to change the view over a whole community ( they view us as degens already anyway and look at the Esfandiari and Laak show they dont set a good example either )
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capaneo   Canada. Oct 31 2008 00:56. Posts 8465
On October 30 2008 22:31 capaneo wrote:
I dont %100 agree with what Cosby is saying btw. But he is trying to make the same point. Some people are just going way off. Thinking that whatever you do to make money is a smart thing and therefore is the right thing.
I dont know maynard is trying to say but posting that pic. I dont know Maynard at all but he doesnt struck me as someone very intellectual. Do you care to explain what you mean Maynard or you just trying to look cool by posting random stuff on internet forum??
Your analogy sickens me far more than anything ADZ/Baller related could ever do. You're a fucking poker player for christs sake. You play fucking cards for money. Don't you dare even make some retarded analogy about black disenfranchisement and their lack of role models to the image poker players portray.
You should have kept your mouth shut. The way you speak without addressing any point is just very childish. Do a little growing up and then come back if you want to address something.
BTW: Learn how to talk properly. Its kind of important in a conversation.
In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber
Last edit: 31/10/2008 01:02
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p-halt   United States. Oct 31 2008 00:59. Posts 345
this video is hot..bottom line
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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 31 2008 09:17. Posts 6540
I dont know what ur trying to prove cap, but that video almost made me fall asleep... closed it around 4min mark.
and i would def prefer people think of me as a young successful rich brat, then some boring smart old fart.
The Last Laugh.
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MayZerG   United Kingdom. Oct 31 2008 11:45. Posts 2123
stop hating, its ADZ's life, he can do what he likes, doesnt matter if you approve or not.
Stop talking about whether its good or bad for poker, that shit is rediculous.
I like to hold all the nuts - CrownRoyal
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kantoiki   Australia. Oct 31 2008 12:01. Posts 3818
On October 31 2008 10:45 MayZerG wrote:
stop hating, its ADZ's life, he can do what he likes, doesnt matter if you approve or not.
Stop talking about whether its good or bad for poker, that shit is rediculous.
What?
Of course he can do what he likes regardless of approval or disapproval but that isn't the point.
The point is that it is potentially damaging to individuals like capaneo who do wish to remain to a certain point dignified and respectable to the wider community but most importantly to those around him.
Of course there are some who will want to be viewed as ridiculous poker brats who are 'baller' and we shouldn't disregard that and nor has I think anyone tried to?
The idea is that it is possibly bad for poker and I don't understand why 'that shit is rediculous' since its an aspect of life for most of the people on this site.
One that can be affected by Adz's actions conveying what can be considered a negative image for poker.
note: I don't say it 'IS DEFINITELY' since whether or not it's a negative image remains everyone's own preference.
muckv - i have an iq of 180 and i want someone to teach me how to take a shit IN the toilet.
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 31 2008 13:18. Posts 11625
i dunno about being a "respectable" poker player. people only regard this industry and it's players for the MONEY it's famous players make. i mean, cmon, do you guys honestly think people are impressed with poker players? lol i must admit this life is one of the most rewarding and enjoyable, but if you want dignity and respect IRL , just go into business and build an empire. i personally think that among celebrities, poker players make less than most of that demographic, poker is only cool and respectable within the poker world, and nowhere else. people oblivious to poker and the scene couldnt care less who won the wsop, if it were not to be shown on tv and see the actual cash prize on the table.
lol @ comparing skilled card players to cops who actually contribute something very important to society, which is peace and order, of course public perception is very important to cops, actually they exist since people still have faith in them in a way, that's why they were put there in the first place.
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capaneo   Canada. Oct 31 2008 14:04. Posts 8465
On October 31 2008 08:17 wobbly_au wrote:
I dont know what ur trying to prove cap, but that video almost made me fall asleep... closed it around 4min mark.
and i would def prefer people think of me as a young successful rich brat, then some boring smart old fart.
So you prefer to be viewed as this:
Rather to be viewed as this:
All I can say is that please tell me you are leveling?
In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber
Last edit: 31/10/2008 14:06
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MayZerG   United Kingdom. Oct 31 2008 19:51. Posts 2123
I'd deff prefer to be viewed as the first video .
How is it bad for poker in what his doing? I just dont see the arguement, who cares if people will think we are gamblers/degens who play poker for money. I dont see the point on why people are getting upset.
If you enjoy playing poker, dont let other peoples views stop you? Since when do you pay attention to what random people think about poker anyways, i know i dont.
I like to hold all the nuts - CrownRoyal
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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 31 2008 21:40. Posts 6540
On October 31 2008 08:17 wobbly_au wrote:
I dont know what ur trying to prove cap, but that video almost made me fall asleep... closed it around 4min mark.
and i would def prefer people think of me as a young successful rich brat, then some boring smart old fart.
So you prefer to be viewed as this:
Rather to be viewed as this:
All I can say is that please tell me you are leveling?
yes i would rather be ADZ then that old fart, i prefer being young and rich but douchey over old and smart but boring.
and most people would pick ADZ over that old fart.
but jesus, i use to think u just sucked at poker but after this thread u seriously are the most stubborn + retarded person ever.