Blizzcon 2008.

So Diablo 3 will be playable tomorrow (today) at Blizzcon and a NEW CLASS will be revealed, wooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Hoping for more gameplay videos and info about items, quests, death, and everything .

http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15264

Edit - I'll be updating this with by-the-minute information by the way .

holy shit

Sick!

Who gives a flying fuck bout diablo 3,Starcraft 2 is the shit.

i do

I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one?

On October 10 2008 04:36 milkman wrote: i do

On October 10 2008 04:42 Loco wrote: I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one?

im with you, i have high hopes for d3

i only played D2 for about an hour in my entire life, whereas i spent 500+ hours on SC2

obv i care more about SC2!

On October 10 2008 04:42 Loco wrote: I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one?

Exact same boat here.

On October 10 2008 04:42 Loco wrote: I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one?

one more in your camp buddy

What a tick

at the LAST blizzcon I played SC2 and it really seemed almost done, wtf it still isnt out?

--- Nuked ---

I think the reason is because SC:BW is such a classic it will never be topped, while on the other hand even though Diablo and D2/LOD were amazing games, I think they could even do better with D3 which is why my expectations are so high.

second that.

On October 10 2008 06:05 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2008 04:42 Loco wrote: I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one? Exact same boat here.

SAME

On October 10 2008 09:25 Loco wrote: I think the reason is because SC:BW is such a classic it will never be topped, while on the other hand even though Diablo and D2/LOD were amazing games, I think they could even do better with D3 which is why my expectations are so high.

the reason for me is that yes sc:bw wont be topped but also SC2 is a lot different and 3d etc, people dont care but this type of game i.e. 3d is bad for strategy games -.-

whatever tho it'll sell them copies and blah blah blah
im not gonna order sc2 but will order d3 to try it for sure

burn in hell traitors.

I really need to get these games =P

On October 10 2008 04:42 Loco wrote: I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one?

Really uninterested in the direction that sc2 is going. and Diablo series you can always just pick up an play, take a break and find yourself hooked again a few months later. Still find myself pulling our D and D2 here and there for a few weeks well over 10 years later.

On October 10 2008 04:42 Loco wrote: I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one?

I think this is natural D3 is just a much more casual game and we are older and playing poker dont have time to play another insanely competetive game

Dont really care at all for SC 2, but im definatly gonna play D3. Even now, i sometimes find myself playing D2 with my brother for a week or two because its just such an awesome game!

yea im looking forward to d3 a lot more than sc2

kinda suprising actually, but i think they can make d3 a LOT better than they can make sc2

On October 10 2008 04:42 Loco wrote: I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one?

Yeah I'm with you too, SC is just so consuming and now that I play poker and am in college it's not as interesting as when I was in high school and I could carelessly play all day. Sc2 would be something I'd want to take "seriously" and practice and try and get good, diablo 3 is just a very enjoyable diversion, definitely looking forward to it a lot more. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE THIRD CLASS HAVE THE ANNOUNCED IT YET OMFG THE ANTICIPATION IS KILLING ME1!?!

It's the Wizard, only the female is playable. Not quite the same as the sorc, has some abilities based on "time manipulation".

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55245

omfgomfgomfg?

i can feel some bans coming

NEVER MIND. Here is the HQ trailer from Blizzard.com

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/movies/wizard.xml

Here is the GAMEPLAY VIDEO.

Goddam, the Wizard looks fucking awesome. That big ol' skeleton dude is King Leoric :D.

Here is the new skill system. You can attack Skill Runes to spells making them do different things. So much fucking diversity these runes. I believe the Wizard is projected to have 60 spells for herself alone, but with these Skill Runes it basically triples.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55258

Have they said if you can redo your talents like in wow? Frankly I think that'd be sick as hell, spent way too much time leveling the same classes over and over again just to play a different skill set. Will synergies from d2 be returning?

still not sold on this random health globe thing, over old fashion potions.

On October 10 2008 17:11 ikc5 wrote: Have they said if you can redo your talents like in wow? Frankly I think that'd be sick as hell, spent way too much time leveling the same classes over and over again just to play a different skill set. Will synergies from d2 be returning?

Yep, synergies will return. Although in a different fashion . Look at all these frikkin' skills!

Edit - Wow, tried to copy paste from the website and it looked icky. Go to this site to see all the skills.

http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15288

On October 10 2008 17:29 NotSorry wrote: still not sold on this random health globe thing, over old fashion potions.

They said they did this so you couldn't go in a corner and drink up pots. They implemented the globes so it forces you to keep the action going and kill baddies so they drop globes. I love the idea .

WOW! StarCraft 2 will be a TRILOGY : http://games.on.net/article/4254/StarCraft_2_confirmed_as_a_trilogy

Oh and it is said WC4 will use a similar approach to campaigns as well.

To clarify - EACH campaign will be sold separately and as a standalone game. If you want to play each campaign, you have to buy all three games. But I think you can play B.net with just one of the games.

On October 10 2008 13:07 ikc5 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2008 04:42 Loco wrote: I loved SC more than D2 but I'm more interested in D3 than SC2, am I the only one? Yeah I'm with you too, SC is just so consuming and now that I play poker and am in college it's not as interesting as when I was in high school and I could carelessly play all day. Sc2 would be something I'd want to take "seriously" and practice and try and get good, diablo 3 is just a very enjoyable diversion, definitely looking forward to it a lot more. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE THIRD CLASS HAVE THE ANNOUNCED IT YET OMFG THE ANTICIPATION IS KILLING ME1!?!

yep, I almost ended up posting something like this too, totally agree.

Another awesome SC2 cinematic. The audio is a bit out of sync but it's gosu as hell.

http://www.shackvideo.com/?id=13100

uhhh is it me or was the Wizard in the trailer Asian? lol

and i think they've changed the game's contrast/color darker to satisfy the fanboys.. which is great 8D

On October 10 2008 20:35 diude wrote: uhhh is it me or was the Wizard in the trailer Asian? lol and i think they've changed the game's contrast/color darker to satisfy the fanboys.. which is great 8D

Yeah, the Wizard is from Xiansi or whatever, a continent that is in the Diablo universe.

wow this is SO fucking sick. I can't fucking wait to play it. i'm in awe.

also that SC2 Trilogy is fucking sweet as well.

Here's some more cool information about D3.

Jay Wilson, Game Director of Diablo III announces to attendees at BlizzCon in Anaheim, CA. new changes for the better and some unanswered.

Wilson explains that he wants to have the characters of Diablo III to be epicly powerful compared to Diablo 1 and 2. "Being superpowered and allowing the player to defeat hordes and armies of minions will bring the excitement back into the medeval game." However, many have argued that this will take away the horror/suspense from the game and will loose interest really quickly. Unfortunately the demo is short and I was noticing the uberness of the characters.

Wilson also announced that there will be a hardcore mode for all of you bloodlusting realism players out there as well as 3 difficulty modes like previous in LOD.

Wilson also commented that he wants to "remove the old barriers" when it comes to online play on battle.net. Creating an easier join system with friends and coming up with other ways to free up the restriction in Diablo III compared to all other RPG/Action games.

Wilson explained to Diablo fans that removing health potions away will generate a more realistic experience to the gameplay. Players will not be able to stock up unlimited amount of potions and being "invulnerable" to all monsters/players in battle. With an army of monsters in front of you, it will force you to be more strategic and apply classic hit and run and evading tactics to play.

Random mini-quests will be contributing to Diablo III to help support the randomly generating maps and monsters that we saw in Diablo II. Seeing a cult performing a ritual spell or a caravan in need of assistance at random when you are in the area will put you more intuned to the game as well as re-playabliity.

Diablo III game developers are also marking the overall game economics a high priority as they are developing a system where gold is the main currency and items such as jewels or runes are not. This will defintely keep the game in check and not overflow to a pure mf game.

An attendee attending the convention asked Wilson if loot will still be incorporated as a free for all during online games. Wilson quickly replied no as they have already created a system where all other players in a game with you will not be able to even see the items if they where dropped from a monster that you killed. Now once an item has been picked up and then dropped again will allow other users to see the item.

Wilson's last direction was to only enable a maximum of 4 players on bnet games. This will encourage others to band together in completing quests and prevent servers from reaching over capacity and allow better connection quality...ridding lag.

On October 10 2008 21:35 TheHuHu3 wrote: Here's some more cool information about D3. Jay Wilson, Game Director of Diablo III announces to attendees at BlizzCon in Anaheim, CA. new changes for the better and some unanswered. Wilson explains that he wants to have the characters of Diablo III to be epicly powerful compared to Diablo 1 and 2. "Being superpowered and allowing the player to defeat hordes and armies of minions will bring the excitement back into the medeval game." However, many have argued that this will take away the horror/suspense from the game and will loose interest really quickly. Unfortunately the demo is short and I was noticing the uberness of the characters. Wilson also announced that there will be a hardcore mode for all of you bloodlusting realism players out there as well as 3 difficulty modes like previous in LOD. Wilson also commented that he wants to "remove the old barriers" when it comes to online play on battle.net. Creating an easier join system with friends and coming up with other ways to free up the restriction in Diablo III compared to all other RPG/Action games. Wilson explained to Diablo fans that removing health potions away will generate a more realistic experience to the gameplay. Players will not be able to stock up unlimited amount of potions and being "invulnerable" to all monsters/players in battle. With an army of monsters in front of you, it will force you to be more strategic and apply classic hit and run and evading tactics to play. Random mini-quests will be contributing to Diablo III to help support the randomly generating maps and monsters that we saw in Diablo II. Seeing a cult performing a ritual spell or a caravan in need of assistance at random when you are in the area will put you more intuned to the game as well as re-playabliity. Diablo III game developers are also marking the overall game economics a high priority as they are developing a system where gold is the main currency and items such as jewels or runes are not. This will defintely keep the game in check and not overflow to a pure mf game. An attendee attending the convention asked Wilson if loot will still be incorporated as a free for all during online games. Wilson quickly replied no as they have already created a system where all other players in a game with you will not be able to even see the items if they where dropped from a monster that you killed. Now once an item has been picked up and then dropped again will allow other users to see the item. Wilson's last direction was to only enable a maximum of 4 players on bnet games. This will encourage others to band together in completing quests and prevent servers from reaching over capacity and allow better connection quality...ridding lag.

awesome, it all sounds good

omfg sc2@!!! wtf @ d3 wtf jesus

I think many of us will not put in the required 4h+ daily to become half decent at SC2, whereas in Diablo you acn play whenever you have any free time and can quit whenever, you can take a break from it and when you return everything will be the same. Whereas SC if you take a break everyone around you becomes better and there's a lot of effort required to keep up w/ them or become better (which is the goal). Probably a game wich is more enjoyed by people under 18, since they have way more free time + their time is basically less valuable than most of us

"Diablo III game developers are also marking the overall game economics a high priority as they are developing a system where gold is the main currency and items such as jewels or runes are not. This will defintely keep the game in check and not overflow to a pure mf game"

this is sooo sick! hussling items is the way the game was meant to be played

max 4 players in d3 v_v

Already have to ditch so many people with only 8 player game.

On October 11 2008 00:00 NotSorry wrote: max 4 players in d3 v_v Already have to ditch so many people with only 8 player game.

Yeah, the reason they did this was to prevent lag. Don't you remember in D2 when you had like 2 Necros in your group with 4353245 skeletons, especially during Baal runs? Shit was fucking lag city.

And especially with all the spells and skills have explosive animation to 'em, it would be really laggy to have 8 players doing all their shit at once at a constant.

On October 11 2008 02:25 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2008 00:00 NotSorry wrote: max 4 players in d3 v_v Already have to ditch so many people with only 8 player game. Yeah, the reason they did this was to prevent lag. Don't you remember in D2 when you had like 2 Necros in your group with 4353245 skeletons, especially during Baal runs? Shit was fucking lag city. And especially with all the spells and skills have explosive animation to 'em, it would be really laggy to have 8 players doing all their shit at once at a constant.

thats graphics lag, good computer solves that

4max is gay

On October 10 2008 23:47 TalentedTom wrote: "Diablo III game developers are also marking the overall game economics a high priority as they are developing a system where gold is the main currency and items such as jewels or runes are not. This will defintely keep the game in check and not overflow to a pure mf game" this is sooo sick! hussling items is the way the game was meant to be played

NOOOOOOOOOO, that was one of the best aspects of Diablo that WOW is lacking all the way - trading the items

Fuckk sc2 and d3, they wont be released for like a year, right?
gogogo red alert 3!!

Not a fan of having to buy 3 games of SC2 just to get the story out of single player V_v

On October 11 2008 02:25 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2008 00:00 NotSorry wrote: max 4 players in d3 v_v Already have to ditch so many people with only 8 player game. Yeah, the reason they did this was to prevent lag. Don't you remember in D2 when you had like 2 Necros in your group with 4353245 skeletons, especially during Baal runs? Shit was fucking lag city. And especially with all the spells and skills have explosive animation to 'em, it would be really laggy to have 8 players doing all their shit at once at a constant.

Your computer is shit, it has nothing to do with 'lag'. Only thing more annoying than people complaining about necro summons is the endless number of people who still think Meteor in the Throne causes lag.

On October 11 2008 15:45 Feiticeira wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2008 02:25 TheHuHu3 wrote:   On October 11 2008 00:00 NotSorry wrote: max 4 players in d3 v_v Already have to ditch so many people with only 8 player game. Yeah, the reason they did this was to prevent lag. Don't you remember in D2 when you had like 2 Necros in your group with 4353245 skeletons, especially during Baal runs? Shit was fucking lag city. And especially with all the spells and skills have explosive animation to 'em, it would be really laggy to have 8 players doing all their shit at once at a constant. Your computer is shit, it has nothing to do with 'lag'. Only thing more annoying than people complaining about necro summons is the endless number of people who still think Meteor in the Throne causes lag.

Well, I have an awesome computer now for gaming . Here's a quote from one of the Diablo 3 fansites who got a tour of Blizzard HQ and asked the devs about it...

"The max player limit isn’t set yet, but they’re thinking it might be just 4. They can add more, and it’s actually less stress on b.net to have more players in fewer games, but as Jay pointed out, more than 4 turns into total chaos, or else players are off in different parts of the same game. So the upper limit will probably be more about fun and party play than technical capability."

Also, Hardcore is back, respeccing is in, and MF is back.


ALSO - Check out this new feature : Skill Runes. Just awesome..

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55258

Some more cool info :

Attribute points are not player-assignable in D3. They’re not in the blizzcon build, but we thought that was just to simplify things for new players at the show. Jay says no, that’s how it is in the game now. His explanation was that it makes items even more important, and that it lets the designers plan a bit better (they can assume players will have at least X in each stat by a given level). You still get attributes, and they will still be required for equipment use, but they are automatically assigned each level up. Thus every Wizard will have the same base str/vit/dex/etc as every other Wizard of the same level. Same for the Barb and WD.

Jay confirmed that the party interface and system is gone in D3. Now when you join a multiplayer game, you are automatically in a party. Jay said that now that there’s no option to go hostile, it was pointless to force players to go through an additional party joining interface. The team is considering mechanisms that might be needed to deal with griefers or players who otherwise try to ruin the play experience.

There will be waypoints in D3. They’re not in the Blizzcon build, but they are in the full game. The team is also looking at ways to automatically jump players right to the closest one to other players when they join a game. They’re also considering some sort of scroll or other mechanism that would take new players instantly to the others in the party, wherever they are in the game world. All part of their emphasis on boosting the fun, co-op, multiplayer elements of the game.

Jay spoke at length about the newly-revealed spell runes. They are a fairly new addition to the game (they’re only enabled for the Wizard in the Blizzcon build), and are still very much subject to change. However Jay said that there are now 6 or 7 different types of runes, 5 or 6 quality levels, and that they can add as many more types or quality levels as necessary. Their rule for adding more spell rune types is to only add them when they think of a property that will be useful to enough skills that it’s a viable addition. He also said that rune properties would only boost spells and skills; they won’t add say, +5 strength, or other general attribute boosts. Runes aren’t only damage adding either; Jay mentioned the Wizard skill Mirror Image: Runes added to that skill will do things like make the images (duplicates of the Wizard) last longer, or make more duplicates appear.

Also, in a question I sneaked in after our interview time ran out, while we were packing up our gear: I mentioned Jay’s past comment that players would “hate” the next character announced, since it was so similar to a past character. (Which turned out to be the Wizard, who is clearly similar to the Sorcerer/Sorceress, and didn’t result in hate, other than some “it’s too ‘Harry Potter’” comments about the name.) Jay said that comment had been overplayed a bit, and that he’d made it fairly offhand. When I asked him how players would feel about the next character, he grew a bit more serious, and said with emphasis, “I think players wll love the next class.” How much he meant that, and how much he was merely playing off his previous “hate” comment is for us to attempt to determine.

On October 10 2008 14:13 Nazgul wrote: i can feel some bans coming

I very much agree with Naz.


everyone who isn't interested in D3 should be banned

I've pretty much covered everything in D3 that Blizzcon has shown so far. There will be the Lore and Art panel in a few hours but I don't know if LPers want to read that shit. I'll post it anyway, though .

wow this game looks so awesome

we should make a clan and pk ppl on hardcore

4 players per game is a good idea, 8 people in a game is just way too overpowered in dii
also they got rid of potions which is insane this iwll make hardcore mode 10x harder since you cant stash up full rejuvs

Warders of the 7th sigil will rule the world once again!

On October 11 2008 20:43 Balzamon wrote: Warders of the 7th sigil will rule the world once again!

Damn, that is an insanely gay name for a clan. ^^;.

On October 11 2008 19:44 Minion wrote: we should make a clan and pk ppl on hardcore

seems like they are doing everything possible to stop that

A big collage of SC2 pics... HQ!

http://news.bigdownload.com/photos/starcraft-2-2/1092261/

New SC2 cinematic :