Just starting out? A word of advice - Page 8

On December 05 2006 08:58 warsumm wrote: i started usuing this guide a week ago with $5.67 in my account. as of this morning Im up a bit over $80, strictly from this guide and multi-tabling .01/.02 FR. THANK YOU GROT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is this amount expected?
I made 15 bucks in 3 weeks.

That's a little slow I think.
Every full day, I make 5-20.

i think the guide is still awesome

u should update new stuff to it and add like random tips or something

like... betting sizes and putting opponent on a hand.

and also i notice that a lot ppl like to play full stacked 250bb as a newb, due to this forum constantly saying "buy for a full stack nub". all it does it make the game harder

yeah probably it might be better to play for 100bb for the couple of thousand hands.

it's funny but after reading the guide, i went back to 10nl coz i started at 100nl playing out of luck and pure instinct(underrolled) lost alot of money in the process and realized i have to go back where everyone good really started and learn discipline, which is for me the most important part in learning to play poker. now im really doing well winning like 5-7 buyins for a couple of days now. i dont say i follow the guide but it really opened up my eyes to what i was really doing wrong. thanks grot.

I tried to make some updates, I hope this helps


in my opinion it was easier when i started, than for those of you who are starting out now

100% agree grot. Btw, this has done its job. I'm curious as to how much money this guide has won people. Bravo.

On December 05 2006 17:02 goodguysm wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2006 08:58 warsumm wrote: i started usuing this guide a week ago with $5.67 in my account. as of this morning Im up a bit over $80, strictly from this guide and multi-tabling .01/.02 FR. THANK YOU GROT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this amount expected? I made 15 bucks in 3 weeks.

nah it's not, some people are luckier than others. (Not saying he's not playing well) just be patient and it will be a piece of cake to move up limits

I wanna bet money that you can win money at a sample of 10k hands at 10nl 9max tables by only playin according to this strategy any takers?

win how much with 10k hands

dont bet money with a micro stakes grinder

Im sayin you can win ($5or more)/1000hands so for the sample of 10k hands so $50 or more. Or make it $100 or more for 20k hands at 1c/2c tables. (Which is 25BB/100) but the 1c/2c

thanks a lot for this guide. im up $13 my first night of 6 tabling following these rules strictly on micro stakes

at $105, am now 10 tabling NL 5 and 2 tabling NL10.slow but steady.

just a tip as well as ive gotten screwed by this especially at NL5. with either kk or aa in a raised pot, ive gotten in trouble at least3-4 times, losing 3-4 buyins that is, by betting the pot on the flop, getting raised(mini, usually) then shoving into a flopped set. You can generally sniff these people out by the minraise, ive found, and although its very difficult to lay down the aa and kk on a pretty benign flop, its a good idea(sometimes).

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Why do I raise 89s, T9s and JTs when 2 players are in the pot before me? (and not none or 1 for example)

dont raise.. call

Sorry, thats what I meant. But you said it would be a fold if there were not at least 2 limp callers before me. Why is this?

Because this type of hand doesn't make something often, but it has a small chance of making something very good (three of a kind, flush, straight, full house, quads, straight-flush). Under these circumstances, you want to "get in cheap" and play against as many opponents as possible. If you make something, you'll probably win anyway regardless of how many people are in the pot. The pot won't only be bigger, there will also be more candidates to pay you off. You will also have position on the limpers (except when you're in the small/big blind, in which case you should take a flop anyway because it will cost $0.01 or $0 respectively) so you'll get more free cards (which is good because you will flop many draws) and earn more money when you make something.


However, a hand like K-K will very often make something playable (whenever no ace flops), but the hand will not be that hard to beat. For this reason, you don't want others to "get in cheap" and you don't want to play against too many opponents.


Hope that helps!