Poker: Skill or Luck? - Page 2

"We know that there is a huge element of luck, and we know there is a small element of skill"

If you still think that after playing the game for 3 years you should really quit playing, you definitly didn't catch the concept.

all luck

just like chess

Well I've heard a lot of sarcasm throughout this discussion, but no one honestly shared their results of poker. Save TalentedTom, who said he loses tens of thousands, but after his follow-up post one can easily assume he was being sarcastic.

I also understand the owners of LiquidPoker rely on their community to make ad revenue from the industry.

wow. This is either the greatest leveling i've ever witnessed, or the worst thinly veiled beat about how this guy can't beat micro stakes after 3 years....

I think the winrate statistic in poker tracker does a pretty good job of illustrating the answer to this question. I mean, if you take a sample of 50,000 hands its quite clear: poker is all luck and no one has any edge

also, LUCK OBVIOUSLY.

On June 20 2007 16:03 BigRed0000 wrote: wow. This is either the greatest leveling i've ever witnessed, or the worst thinly veiled beat about how this guy can't beat micro stakes after 3 years....

He was not provided the secret bonus cheat code like the rest of us.

On June 20 2007 16:02 stryfedll wrote: Well I've heard a lot of sarcasm throughout this discussion, but no one honestly shared their results of poker. Save TalentedTom, who said he loses tens of thousands, but after his follow-up post one can easily assume he was being sarcastic. I also understand the owners of LiquidPoker rely on their community to make ad revenue from the industry.

go to the blogs section of this site. there you will find players bragging endlessly about how their luck held up over 10,000,000 hands

LOL are you guys serious? everyone knows that poker is 100% luck and that the only long time winner on pokerstars is rekrul becouse he got a cheat code. just ask hallingoll.

On June 20 2007 16:02 stryfedll wrote: Well I've heard a lot of sarcasm throughout this discussion, but no one honestly shared their results of poker. Save TalentedTom, who said he loses tens of thousands, but after his follow-up post one can easily assume he was being sarcastic. I also understand the owners of LiquidPoker rely on their community to make ad revenue from the industry.

Im pretty sure you are joking but I regularily make 20k+/month and I have made over 100k in about a year of playing poker. And I am by FAR not the biggest winner. I remember northface making a post about him winning 200k~ in a month.


get real sir

OP

PM Rekrul for PokerStars_card_hack.exe and become a big winner today!

On June 20 2007 16:11 hansen jr. wrote: LOL are you guys serious? everyone knows that poker is 100% luck and that the only long time winner on pokerstars is rekrul becouse he got a cheat code. just ask hallingoll.

i was planning to quit school for poker but after i found this thread that poker is mostly luck, im back to studying my ass off to get my degree in 4 years.

poker is all luck and in the long run we all go broke

stryfedll we are being sarcastic because if poker were all luck this forum would be ridiculous. every conservation(or forum discussion) we have would be ridiculous and basically all we would be doing here all day is making asses out of ourselves.

you basically asked: are you all making asses out of yourselves all day long?

the good thing is that by answering that question we can determine whether poker is all luck...

:S

On June 20 2007 16:17 Pokerhaasje wrote: stryfedll we are being sarcastic because if poker were all luck this forum would be ridiculous. every conservation(or forum discussion) we have would be ridiculous and basically all we would be doing here all day is making asses out of ourselves. you basically asked: are you all making asses out of yourselves all day long? the good thing is that by answering that question we can determine whether poker is all luck... :S

monster poker all in for metagame purposes

Well, it could be the few players on this forum that maintain a cult following, and that maintain blogs, who have some odd urge to share with the world how much they are winning, have manipulated their PokerTracker results(which is fairly easy to do) in order to ensure that the members of this community keep depositing, via the banner ads on this website to create ad revenue...

...or it could be they are just making thousands of dollars.

I personally lean either way.

It would seem their may be some conspiracy of those who maintain poker communities or even televised events like the WSOP have some stake in "convincing" the populous and maintaining the image of poker as a game of skill.

If this conspiracy is true then card room entrepreneurs have created the ultimate strategy in advertising via referral campaigns on the internet.

I have a secret Roulette strategy that makes me a long-term winner. I will sell it for $50.

Also stryfedll you should read the advanced flipament strategy in the Other Poker Games forum, it will help your games. Chances are youre losing because you arent shouting the right stuff at the screen.

POKER IS ONE BIG CONSPIRACY

INFORM THE PRESS!

If you think about it, everyone gets dealt the same cards, so why do some people win and others lose? Where does any edge come from? The answer lies in hitting more flush draws then other players, if you use the cheat code you hit flush draws 72% of the time.