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Oddeye   Canada. Nov 25 2020 05:21. Posts 4982

Basically we are disagreeing so I want to know what ya guys think if he does owe me and how much if so. Hopefully this is coherent and resume it well, I have discord chat to back everything I say; I'll post it if needed.

Lostaccount msg me on LP to stake me to play on a pokerBRO and that he is an agent. I wouldn't play with my own money on private apps. Basically deal is 50/50 with 25% RB payout every week monday. First week I ran like god, win around 1k$ and he send me a message saying his manager banned me cause I won too much and he didn't offer him anything (since I guess they ban winner?). He says he owe me about 460 or 490$(I'll have to check), but he only send me 230 now he says he owe me the rest cause he is waiting for his manager to send the rest. So we makes new deal manager 20/lostacc 30/me 50.

I'm asking him the whole next week about the rest of the money he keeps saying I will get it soon. I played a ton 2nd wekk but I ran really bad even tho I'm down like 350$. So I ask him how much rakeback we are getting and he says we are not getting RB cause of part of the new deal and that he forgot to tell me(raked 550$ 2nd week). At this point I keep asking him to pay me, he says it's too much trouble and he wants out of the stake. I'm like ok but you gotta pay me what you said you owe me(Roughly 490$-230$ he already paid me).

I'm frankly quite pissed at him. He said I was even lucky I got paid at all, like what the f*? I won the money. I absolutely think he owe me the full rest of my 50% of the first week profit. Even if we factor in what I lost the 2nd week he would still owe me some more and he straight up blocked me. It's not a ton of money but if he doesn't pay up isn't he a scammer?

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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 25 2020 06:52. Posts 33730

Why don't both of you commit to plea your case and get it arbitrated by a couple of ppl you respect in here.

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Oddeye   Canada. Nov 25 2020 07:04. Posts 4982

I can already say I agree. I hope he does too. I told him I'd post it here and he said go ahead but then he blocked me so I'm not super confident he will show up but we will see.


lostaccount   Canada. Nov 25 2020 07:10. Posts 3268

He won week 1, lost week 2 and 3 and expect to keep winning and not count losses. He’s complaining about 230 cad.


lostaccount   Canada. Nov 25 2020 07:11. Posts 3268

I with hold 230 in case he lost week 2 and he did but still expects the money. I’m done with staking losers

 Last edit: 25/11/2020 07:11

Oddeye   Canada. Nov 25 2020 07:14. Posts 4982

Do you agree with what Baalim said? You can put up your case after.


lostaccount   Canada. Nov 25 2020 07:17. Posts 3268

I’m not wasting my time on a case for 230$ and I’m not paying u. Call me a scammer all u want. U just give me headaches


lostaccount   Canada. Nov 25 2020 07:18. Posts 3268

U won 490cad, lost back 350usd week 2 and expect me to fit the losses while. Keep winnings. Doesn’t work like that


Oddeye   Canada. Nov 25 2020 07:23. Posts 4982

We can argue the case if you want, but if you refuse to do it whats the point? It was twice 490$can and yes true 350$ USD. We can post everything I was making a resume but if you are unwilling to accept the plea it's pointless.

 Last edit: 25/11/2020 07:24

Oddeye   Canada. Nov 25 2020 07:37. Posts 4982

Really this isn't about me calling you a scammer it's about ARE you a scammer. If you refuse to have it arbitrated then it speaks volume. I'm all willing to post everything to clarify it up so they get a clear picture yet you dodge it. If they see and think I'm wrong I'm all for admitting it.


PoorUser    United States. Nov 25 2020 07:44. Posts 7448


  On November 25 2020 06:18 lostaccount wrote:
U won 490cad, lost back 350usd week 2 and expect me to fit the losses while. Keep winnings. Doesn’t work like that


Other people should comment but if you aren't disputing the terms of his OP, you sound way in the wrong dude.

Gambler EmeritusLast edit: 25/11/2020 07:46

DooMeR   United States. Nov 25 2020 09:26. Posts 8511

i dont get it. Whats the balance owed when factoring in losses?

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 25 2020 10:26. Posts 9382

You must have not read his latest blogs if you re getting into business with him


blackjacki2   United States. Nov 25 2020 11:01. Posts 2402

I mean even in the best possible light where we ignore the rakeback deal, seems like you didn't get your share of the profits even with factoring in the losses. In week 1 you have 980 profit and week 2 you have 350 loss. Net is 630 so your half is 315. If he gave you 230 then he still owes you 85.


  On November 25 2020 06:10 lostaccount wrote:
He’s complaining about 230 cad.




  On November 25 2020 06:17 lostaccount wrote:
I’m not wasting my time on a case for 230$ and I’m not paying u.



This is basically the language of scummy scammers and welchers. The good ole "bruh it's such a small amount of money bruh c'mon it's not even worth the time to fight over" says the guy that can't pony up that small amount.


FrinkX   United States. Nov 25 2020 12:47. Posts 7511

in 2020 people are still doing business with Neilly & CO

classic

bitch on a pension suck my dong 

captainhook   Canada. Nov 25 2020 15:10. Posts 400

Sketchy but honestly for that amount of money, I'll just let it go and chalk it up as a loss.

The good thing is it's just the beginning of the deal. Imagine playing months and months and he owes you 10k and wouldn't pay.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Nov 25 2020 15:22. Posts 1549

John, if you DROPPED HIM, then you OWE THAT TO HIM.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Nov 25 2020 15:22. Posts 1549

you should coach him instead of calling him a loser?


Ryan Neilly   United States. Nov 25 2020 15:23. Posts 1549


  On November 25 2020 11:47 FrinkX wrote:
in 2020 people are still doing business with Neilly & CO

classic



lol like wtf i paid off all my debts sir, and im up 60k mtt this year + 30k cg.... neillyaa74 pokerstars pa.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Nov 25 2020 15:24. Posts 1549

all at 100% cept a 1k stake i used 1 day to turn into 3-4k and went from there...


 
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