Game of Thrones: Season 8

On May 23 2019 11:08 PplusAD wrote: I strongly disagree ! Dexter was worse ! The last Season of Dexter was so insanely bad that i couldnt even watch it till the end since the pain hurt watching that bs was too much to handle for me

yeah Dexter was mediocre, nothing remotely close to the Quality of GoT regardless of any ending or final season.

Lost final season was possibly a bigger dropoff. Hard to say because GoT broke the wheel on show ratings from seasons 1-4 (was probably more like a 12/10), but Lost seasons 1-5 was probably a 9.0 level show and the final season was a 3.0.

On May 24 2019 05:10 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On May 23 2019 11:08 PplusAD wrote: I strongly disagree ! Dexter was worse ! The last Season of Dexter was so insanely bad that i couldnt even watch it till the end since the pain hurt watching that bs was too much to handle for me yeah Dexter was mediocre, nothing remotely close to the Quality of GoT regardless of any ending or final season.

well ironically Dexter and GoT had similar ends... after all Jon went north to become a lumberjack... same as Dexter no?

On May 24 2019 16:03 Daut wrote: Lost final season was possibly a bigger dropoff. Hard to say because GoT broke the wheel on show ratings from seasons 1-4 (was probably more like a 12/10), but Lost seasons 1-5 was probably a 9.0 level show and the final season was a 3.0.

I have to disagree, LOST was so dependant on the mysteries so it got progressively worse as these weren't explained most of the time, they writers were just winging it and , a 9 is a Sopranos lvl of show, lost is a 7 at best.

Lost season 1 was amazing then it went downhill pretty fast and finale was terrible.
Same with Prison Break, s1 amazing, then it went to very bad too.

On June 20 2019 11:22 kyd wrote: Lost season 1 was amazing then it went downhill pretty fast and finale was terrible. Same with Prison Break, s1 amazing, then it went to very bad too.

they successfully broke out of the prison in season 1 of course it was going to fail ROFL

2x episodes of House of the Dragon released now. Now we get to root for our favorite inbred trust fund baby.

How woke is it?

Seeing these Lost messages, there is a new show called From from the same people that had something to do with Lost. It's not anything spectacular, but I liked the first season. Irritating to search torrents with that kinda name though.

On August 30 2022 06:36 CurbStomp2 wrote: How woke is it?

Honestly from what I remember the absolute worst part of GoT was the humanitarian interventionist white savior Dany going around Asia like she's on some tour sponsored by Bono. That's no longer in it. They did make one of the major families have black skin. Which is a good change imo, it would be very hard to tell them apart otherwise.

On August 30 2022 21:06 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On August 30 2022 06:36 CurbStomp2 wrote: How woke is it? Honestly from what I remember the absolute worst part of GoT was the humanitarian interventionist white savior Dany going around Asia like she's on some tour sponsored by Bono. That's no longer in it. They did make one of the major families have black skin. Which is a good change imo, it would be very hard to tell them apart otherwise.

Daeneris liberating the east cities is part of the books, having a black valyrian isn't.

Valyrians are white haired, purple eyed albinos, if there is a character that would make no sense being black is a fucking valyrian, awful woke pandering, there are Dornish ppl who are dark skinned in Westeros, Essos is basically entirely populated of dark and black skinned ppl but no... it had to be a valyrian. Also if you need race to tell families apart in a TV show perhaps Peppa Pig is more suited to you lol.


BTW the show seems way sub-par to early GoT, it feels like S07, characters are poorly built and fast tracked, GoT carefully built all the Starks characters as headstrong and naive, to eventually lead to their demise, in HotD since ep01 the king is presented as a fool, when he rejects the 12yo bride instead of a build up of resentment between the valyrian houses, literally a couple of minutes after that they are plotting in Dragonstone against the king ffs, the pacing is bad, the characters are flat, 7/10 so far imo.

On August 31 2022 08:31 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On August 30 2022 21:06 Stroggoz wrote:   On August 30 2022 06:36 CurbStomp2 wrote: How woke is it? Honestly from what I remember the absolute worst part of GoT was the humanitarian interventionist white savior Dany going around Asia like she's on some tour sponsored by Bono. That's no longer in it. They did make one of the major families have black skin. Which is a good change imo, it would be very hard to tell them apart otherwise. Daeneris liberating the east cities is part of the books, having a black valyrian isn't. Valyrians are white haired, purple eyed albinos, if there is a character that would make no sense being black is a fucking valyrian, awful woke pandering, there are Dornish ppl who are dark skinned in Westeros, Essos is basically entirely populated of dark and black skinned ppl but no... it had to be a valyrian. Also if you need race to tell families apart in a TV show perhaps Peppa Pig is more suited to you lol. BTW the show seems way sub-par to early GoT, it feels like S07, characters are poorly built and fast tracked, GoT carefully built all the Starks characters as headstrong and naive, to eventually lead to their demise, in HotD since ep01 the king is presented as a fool, when he rejects the 12yo bride instead of a build up of resentment between the valyrian houses, literally a couple of minutes after that they are plotting in Dragonstone against the king ffs, the pacing is bad, the characters are flat, 7/10 so far imo.

Yeah the mistake they made with Dany on the show is they made slavery almost seem like it was racial, but institutional racism didn't really exist in the middle ages (which is why I think the change on the show is ok), and slavery was based off conquest. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of white slaves in the books. Even still, the show basically presents slavery as something that is just solved with extreme violence. The book does more to show all the chaos and problems that Dany creates with military conquest.

I don't really care if something's faithful to the books, pretty sure g.r.r.m said he liked the changes with Bronn and Shae in the early seasons as well. I guess they could differentiate the looks between the two houses with different hairstyles or show their sigils or something. Ultimately I don't care and it makes no sense to get upset about it.

The pacing is extremely fast, they have 3 different actors for some characters. The fast pacing could be a bad example of being faithful to the books. The issue with fast pacing is not just bad character development, but it doesn't allow you to build up the sociological setting. That part is even more important, in my view. Because characters are to a large extent defined by their society and environment, and you can't write them well if you don't explain what kind of environment they are in. I agree that it's subpar, also I think the show will get worse over time.

Why are people shitting on The Rings of Power so much? Is it also because of wokeness? I'm not too familiar with LOTR.

On August 31 2022 21:05 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2022 08:31 Baalim wrote:   On August 30 2022 21:06 Stroggoz wrote:   On August 30 2022 06:36 CurbStomp2 wrote: How woke is it? Honestly from what I remember the absolute worst part of GoT was the humanitarian interventionist white savior Dany going around Asia like she's on some tour sponsored by Bono. That's no longer in it. They did make one of the major families have black skin. Which is a good change imo, it would be very hard to tell them apart otherwise. Daeneris liberating the east cities is part of the books, having a black valyrian isn't. Valyrians are white haired, purple eyed albinos, if there is a character that would make no sense being black is a fucking valyrian, awful woke pandering, there are Dornish ppl who are dark skinned in Westeros, Essos is basically entirely populated of dark and black skinned ppl but no... it had to be a valyrian. Also if you need race to tell families apart in a TV show perhaps Peppa Pig is more suited to you lol. BTW the show seems way sub-par to early GoT, it feels like S07, characters are poorly built and fast tracked, GoT carefully built all the Starks characters as headstrong and naive, to eventually lead to their demise, in HotD since ep01 the king is presented as a fool, when he rejects the 12yo bride instead of a build up of resentment between the valyrian houses, literally a couple of minutes after that they are plotting in Dragonstone against the king ffs, the pacing is bad, the characters are flat, 7/10 so far imo. Yeah the mistake they made with Dany on the show is they made slavery almost seem like it was racial, but institutional racism didn't really exist in the middle ages (which is why I think the change on the show is ok), and slavery was based off conquest. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of white slaves in the books. Even still, the show basically presents slavery as something that is just solved with extreme violence. The book does more to show all the chaos and problems that Dany creates with military conquest. I don't really care if something's faithful to the books, pretty sure g.r.r.m said he liked the changes with Bronn and Shae in the early seasons as well. I guess they could differentiate the looks between the two houses with different hairstyles or show their sigils or something. Ultimately I don't care and it makes no sense to get upset about it. The pacing is extremely fast, they have 3 different actors for some characters. The fast pacing could be a bad example of being faithful to the books. The issue with fast pacing is not just bad character development, but it doesn't allow you to build up the sociological setting. That part is even more important, in my view. Because characters are to a large extent defined by their society and environment, and you can't write them well if you don't explain what kind of environment they are in. I agree that it's subpar, also I think the show will get worse over time.

I think the show does a good job regarding slavery, the old slaves too used to bondage refusing to be free, Mereem falling into slavery the second Daeneris leaves, I mean it's not a show about slavery, its simply an arc of her journey to Westeros conquer.

George was way too meek in his criticism, I suppose since D&D did a pretty good job in the earlier seasons and they deserved some slack but then George barely said anything about how they shat on his legacy, btw I thougth Bronn was the worst character of the entire show, lame uneeded comedic relief and the Jamie & Bronn in Dorn arc was awful, it turned into some shitty "Xena the warrior princess" episode.

I am a fan of House of the Dragon.

I felt the power that girl had when she rode in on her dragon in Episode 2.

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