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nice one. generally don't bring up your ex on the first date though unless the situation really calls for it.

Good for u man. Sounds like a cool girl

The pessimist in me tells me if it ends up working with her it'll be a countdown until she realizes I'm not half as successful as her. I drive a 8yr old car with a dent on the side. She drives a brand new bmw. Lifestyle difference was an issue with my last relationship. Hopefully that doesn't bother her. At least it motivates me to work harder.

On January 13 2019 18:34 PoorUser wrote: nice one. generally don't bring up your ex on the first date though unless the situation really calls for it.

this

On January 13 2019 21:26 k4ir0s wrote: At least it motivates me to work harder.

rofl "work harder" basically the crowning achievement in your life is being a good-looking dude. for the record nothing really "changed" since last year except the fact that you got in moderately better shape and realized wow women like tall white men that are handsome. your like a 95 percentile looks guy bragging about how he managed to get dates (easiest thing ever).

you can mock me all you want for how bad of a person I am, how I bang hookers, and tell me im beneath you as a human being. the truth is much like i will never understand the struggles of growing up as an orphan, you will never understand what it means to overcome genetic and racial discrimination.

On January 13 2019 23:56 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On January 13 2019 21:26 k4ir0s wrote: At least it motivates me to work harder. rofl "work harder" basically the crowning achievement in your life is being a good-looking dude. for the record nothing really "changed" since last year except the fact that you got in moderately better shape and realized wow women like tall white men that are handsome. your like a 95 percentile looks guy bragging about how he managed to get dates (easiest thing ever). you can mock me all you want for how bad of a person I am, how I bang hookers, and tell me im beneath you as a human being. the truth is much like i will never understand the struggles of growing up as an orphan, you will never understand what it means to overcome genetic and racial discrimination.

y u so butthurt? you know nothing about my achievements. I never said anything about you being beneath me. didn't say that you're a bad person. you're projecting. go re read my comments.

btw I know plenty of asian guys who do fine, even without the height.

On January 14 2019 00:30 k4ir0s wrote: Show nested quote + On January 13 2019 23:56 hiems wrote:   On January 13 2019 21:26 k4ir0s wrote: At least it motivates me to work harder. rofl "work harder" basically the crowning achievement in your life is being a good-looking dude. for the record nothing really "changed" since last year except the fact that you got in moderately better shape and realized wow women like tall white men that are handsome. your like a 95 percentile looks guy bragging about how he managed to get dates (easiest thing ever). you can mock me all you want for how bad of a person I am, how I bang hookers, and tell me im beneath you as a human being. the truth is much like i will never understand the struggles of growing up as an orphan, you will never understand what it means to overcome genetic and racial discrimination. y u so butthurt? I never said anything about u being beneath me. didn't say that you're a bad person. you're projecting. go re read my comments. btw I know plenty of asian guys who do fine, even without the height.

lol whatever you can deny it all you want. i guess that's the only way you can rationalize the fact that your "accomplishments" in the past few months are worth jackshit. wasn't it just a few months ago you blogged about wanting to kill yourself because you were such a loser?

oh and yes, thanks for letting me know that insightful fact. apparently you are now an expert on asian-american//canadian race relations. im sorry if my standards or idealizations don't fit in exactly with your few asian friends, we are all the same after all.

On January 14 2019 00:47 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2019 00:30 k4ir0s wrote:   On January 13 2019 23:56 hiems wrote:   On January 13 2019 21:26 k4ir0s wrote: At least it motivates me to work harder. rofl "work harder" basically the crowning achievement in your life is being a good-looking dude. for the record nothing really "changed" since last year except the fact that you got in moderately better shape and realized wow women like tall white men that are handsome. your like a 95 percentile looks guy bragging about how he managed to get dates (easiest thing ever). you can mock me all you want for how bad of a person I am, how I bang hookers, and tell me im beneath you as a human being. the truth is much like i will never understand the struggles of growing up as an orphan, you will never understand what it means to overcome genetic and racial discrimination. y u so butthurt? I never said anything about u being beneath me. didn't say that you're a bad person. you're projecting. go re read my comments. btw I know plenty of asian guys who do fine, even without the height. lol whatever you can deny it all you want. i guess that's the only way you can rationalize the fact that your "accomplishments" in the past few months are worth jackshit. wasn't it just a few months ago you blogged about wanting to kill yourself because you were such a loser? oh and yes, thanks for letting me know that insightful fact. apparently you are now an expert on asian-american//canadian race relations. im sorry if my standards or idealizations don't fit in exactly with your few asian friends, we are all the same after all.

wtf you talking about. Again, you're projecting.


what I find ironic is how you used to mock Rikd in his blogs about his depression and living at home, yet you're living at your parents (all your life) and struggling with depression, repression and doing jack shit about it except justifying your incel life and hoarding money from your 9 to 5 with the goal of moving to SE asia when you're old and grey and stuffing prostitutes with your limp old dick. and now you're spreading your cancer to my blogs.


go see a therapist. it helps, I promise. You have struggles. I get it. Why the fuck are you attacking me in all my blog posts?

On January 14 2019 00:49 k4ir0s wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2019 00:47 hiems wrote:   On January 14 2019 00:30 k4ir0s wrote:   On January 13 2019 23:56 hiems wrote:   On January 13 2019 21:26 k4ir0s wrote: At least it motivates me to work harder. rofl "work harder" basically the crowning achievement in your life is being a good-looking dude. for the record nothing really "changed" since last year except the fact that you got in moderately better shape and realized wow women like tall white men that are handsome. your like a 95 percentile looks guy bragging about how he managed to get dates (easiest thing ever). you can mock me all you want for how bad of a person I am, how I bang hookers, and tell me im beneath you as a human being. the truth is much like i will never understand the struggles of growing up as an orphan, you will never understand what it means to overcome genetic and racial discrimination. y u so butthurt? I never said anything about u being beneath me. didn't say that you're a bad person. you're projecting. go re read my comments. btw I know plenty of asian guys who do fine, even without the height. lol whatever you can deny it all you want. i guess that's the only way you can rationalize the fact that your "accomplishments" in the past few months are worth jackshit. wasn't it just a few months ago you blogged about wanting to kill yourself because you were such a loser? oh and yes, thanks for letting me know that insightful fact. apparently you are now an expert on asian-american//canadian race relations. im sorry if my standards or idealizations don't fit in exactly with your few asian friends, we are all the same after all. wtf you talking about. Again, you're projecting. what I find ironic is how you used to mock Rikd in his blogs, yet you're living at your parents and struggling with depression, repression and doing jack shit about it except justifying your incel life and hoarding money from your 9 to 5 with the goal of moving to SE asia when you're old and grey and stuffing prostitutes with your limp old dick. and now you're spreading your cancer to my blogs. go see a therapist. it helps, I promise. You have struggles. I get it. Why the fuck are you attacking me in all my blog posts?

RikD deserves to be mocked because he is a retard. He is also racially ignorant such as yourself and also pretends he is among the socio-economic bottom class when in actuality he is from like the richest family ever. I'm living with my parents by my choosing. RikD lives at home because he is RikD and has no choice / is retarded.

You claim you have never mocked me for being sub-human and yet here you are calling me an incel. Despite whatever effect you think that might have on me, I'm not an insecure little girl like you and have been through way more than you can imagine. You can call me whatever you want.

I'm attacking you on your blog posts because your blog posts/comments are retarded. I'm not sure how else to explain it. I guess I call it social responsibility.

On January 14 2019 01:08 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2019 00:49 k4ir0s wrote:   On January 14 2019 00:47 hiems wrote:   On January 14 2019 00:30 k4ir0s wrote:   On January 13 2019 23:56 hiems wrote:   On January 13 2019 21:26 k4ir0s wrote: At least it motivates me to work harder. rofl "work harder" basically the crowning achievement in your life is being a good-looking dude. for the record nothing really "changed" since last year except the fact that you got in moderately better shape and realized wow women like tall white men that are handsome. your like a 95 percentile looks guy bragging about how he managed to get dates (easiest thing ever). you can mock me all you want for how bad of a person I am, how I bang hookers, and tell me im beneath you as a human being. the truth is much like i will never understand the struggles of growing up as an orphan, you will never understand what it means to overcome genetic and racial discrimination. y u so butthurt? I never said anything about u being beneath me. didn't say that you're a bad person. you're projecting. go re read my comments. btw I know plenty of asian guys who do fine, even without the height. lol whatever you can deny it all you want. i guess that's the only way you can rationalize the fact that your "accomplishments" in the past few months are worth jackshit. wasn't it just a few months ago you blogged about wanting to kill yourself because you were such a loser? oh and yes, thanks for letting me know that insightful fact. apparently you are now an expert on asian-american//canadian race relations. im sorry if my standards or idealizations don't fit in exactly with your few asian friends, we are all the same after all. wtf you talking about. Again, you're projecting. what I find ironic is how you used to mock Rikd in his blogs, yet you're living at your parents and struggling with depression, repression and doing jack shit about it except justifying your incel life and hoarding money from your 9 to 5 with the goal of moving to SE asia when you're old and grey and stuffing prostitutes with your limp old dick. and now you're spreading your cancer to my blogs. go see a therapist. it helps, I promise. You have struggles. I get it. Why the fuck are you attacking me in all my blog posts? RikD deserves to be mocked because he is a retard. He is also racially ignorant such as yourself and also pretends he is among the socio-economic bottom class when in actuality he is from like the richest family ever. I'm living with my parents by my choosing. RikD lives at home because he is RikD and has no choice / is retarded. You claim you have never mocked me for being sub-human and yet here you are calling me an incel. Despite whatever effect you think that might have on me, I'm not an insecure little girl like you and have been through way more than you can imagine. You can call me whatever you want. I'm attacking you on your blog posts because your blog posts/comments are retarded. I'm not sure how else to explain it. I guess I call it social responsibility.

I didn't claim not mocking you. You keep putting words in my mouth. I haven't posted once in your blog. I didn't even read it. You just marched into my blog and vomited your insecurities all over my blog posts.

On January 14 2019 01:14 k4ir0s wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2019 01:08 hiems wrote:   On January 14 2019 00:49 k4ir0s wrote:   On January 14 2019 00:47 hiems wrote:   On January 14 2019 00:30 k4ir0s wrote:   On January 13 2019 23:56 hiems wrote:   On January 13 2019 21:26 k4ir0s wrote: At least it motivates me to work harder. rofl "work harder" basically the crowning achievement in your life is being a good-looking dude. for the record nothing really "changed" since last year except the fact that you got in moderately better shape and realized wow women like tall white men that are handsome. your like a 95 percentile looks guy bragging about how he managed to get dates (easiest thing ever). you can mock me all you want for how bad of a person I am, how I bang hookers, and tell me im beneath you as a human being. the truth is much like i will never understand the struggles of growing up as an orphan, you will never understand what it means to overcome genetic and racial discrimination. y u so butthurt? I never said anything about u being beneath me. didn't say that you're a bad person. you're projecting. go re read my comments. btw I know plenty of asian guys who do fine, even without the height. lol whatever you can deny it all you want. i guess that's the only way you can rationalize the fact that your "accomplishments" in the past few months are worth jackshit. wasn't it just a few months ago you blogged about wanting to kill yourself because you were such a loser? oh and yes, thanks for letting me know that insightful fact. apparently you are now an expert on asian-american//canadian race relations. im sorry if my standards or idealizations don't fit in exactly with your few asian friends, we are all the same after all. wtf you talking about. Again, you're projecting. what I find ironic is how you used to mock Rikd in his blogs, yet you're living at your parents and struggling with depression, repression and doing jack shit about it except justifying your incel life and hoarding money from your 9 to 5 with the goal of moving to SE asia when you're old and grey and stuffing prostitutes with your limp old dick. and now you're spreading your cancer to my blogs. go see a therapist. it helps, I promise. You have struggles. I get it. Why the fuck are you attacking me in all my blog posts? RikD deserves to be mocked because he is a retard. He is also racially ignorant such as yourself and also pretends he is among the socio-economic bottom class when in actuality he is from like the richest family ever. I'm living with my parents by my choosing. RikD lives at home because he is RikD and has no choice / is retarded. You claim you have never mocked me for being sub-human and yet here you are calling me an incel. Despite whatever effect you think that might have on me, I'm not an insecure little girl like you and have been through way more than you can imagine. You can call me whatever you want. I'm attacking you on your blog posts because your blog posts/comments are retarded. I'm not sure how else to explain it. I guess I call it social responsibility. I didn't claim not mocking you. You keep putting words in my mouth. I haven't posted once in your blog. I didn't even read it. You just marched into my blog and vomited your insecurities all over my blog posts.

lol

obligatory pics of hiems and k4ir0s so we can compare.

sounds like she's a player, esp because you said she's older and seems very independent woman, also she's well spoken since she does coaching and naturally has a lot of social interactions ( more cocks available )

the touchy part you mentioned is also a strong indicator that she has a lot of experience and knows what she's doing and she's def a player, she might try to fuck you with a strap on since she's more mainly than you

you def couldve banged her that night, it was obviously a shit test ( she was testing you to see how alpha you are and if you give up what up want easily, and you did like a pussy ) girls do these to filter the best men, or they will endup bangin random dorks all the time, all this unconsciously obv

if you endup having somethign with her, please be aware at all times that you are merely another puppet in her hands and play the game accordingly

there's a good chance that she won't meet you again because you fucked up the shit test and showed weakness

On January 13 2019 21:26 k4ir0s wrote: The pessimist in me tells me if it ends up working with her it'll be a countdown until she realizes I'm not half as successful as her. I drive a 8yr old car with a dent on the side. She drives a brand new bmw. Lifestyle difference was an issue with my last relationship. Hopefully that doesn't bother her. At least it motivates me to work harder.

this post simply shows how weak you are and this will probably turn any girl off, and by that I dont mean your monetary condition, I mean your perception of the situation, SHE needs to accept you, you will work hard to make other people like you like a faggot

you are so worried about what other people think of you, being "cool enough", being accepted by others and asking for validation, you didnt even had sex but you are happy because you entertained some hoe and she gave you validation by saying she had a good time, lol

the most important work that you need to do is in your inner core confidence and and change this type of beta mindset, but you are totally lost and you'll would've to do a bunch of reading on the subject

its like you are focusing on binking an EPT instead of becoming a good poker player

On January 14 2019 05:51 drone666 wrote: sounds like she's a player, esp because you said she's older and seems very independent woman, also she's well spoken since she does coaching and naturally has a lot of social interactions ( more cocks available ) the touchy part you mentioned is also a strong indicator that she has a lot of experience and knows what she's doing and she's def a player, she might try to fuck you with a strap on since she's more mainly than you you def couldve banged her that night, it was obviously a shit test ( she was testing you to see how alpha you are and if you give up what up want easily, and you did like a pussy ) girls do these to filter the best men, or they will endup bangin random dorks all the time, all this unconsciously obv if you endup having somethign with her, please be aware at all times that you are merely another puppet in her hands and play the game accordingly there's a good chance that she won't meet you again because you fucked up the shit test and showed weakness

Sure I need work on my confidence when it comes to dating. That's why I'm practicing. And I am reading material to learn.


Good to know that she might be a player. I'm not sure that her saying No was a test. While making out with her in the car I moved my hand up her leg and she stopped me. I even suggested going to her place a 2nd time. Are you suggesting I take her by force??? lol. Next time I will, regardless of her hesitation (it's what I did with my ex and worked well), but we were in a car and 20min from her place, with my place being further. And she did stop my hand from going further up her leg.


And contrary to what you might think, I do have a chance and will be meeting her next weekend. She texted me this morning "Best first date ever!!! You rock", "Woke up with a few fantasies myself! You kicked my libido into overdrive haha" , "By the way your contact name is 'MYNAME Hot'. Ridiculously good looking"


pretty sure i'm in a good position. I didn't get laid that night, but that wasn't the goal, I had a ton of fun and danced in public for the first time, acted in a way I never acted with women before. no regrets

well, dont try to fuck a girl in a car, you are not in high school anymore, imagine if you had a lot of pussy in your life, would you even fuck a girl in a car ? this is for desperate people and no decent looking woman do that, also dont make out in the car if you are 20 min from her/your place

20 min drive is gonna kill the vibe, go to the her place first,

you gotta have a plan for this and usually doesnt work if it's too late in the night because you can't make any excuses, one thing you can do is to SAY ( do not invite her or ask nicely as a gentleman you are ) that you are hungry and you gotta eat something, take her to some late night restaurant close to your place ( that will be closed obv ) and then you act surprised "oh they are usually open this time wtf but I live around here, lets go up and I have some food/play some video game/make some cocktails/ meet my cat / whatever you want to say but make it sound natural like its not a big deal

GG

On January 14 2019 07:24 drone666 wrote: well, dont try to fuck a girl in a car, you are not in high school anymore, imagine if you had a lot of pussy in your life, would you even fuck a girl in a car ? this is for desperate people and no decent woman do that, also dont make out in the car if you are 20 min from her/your place 20 min drive is gonna kill the vibe, go to the her place first, you gotta have a plan for this and usually doesnt work if it's too late in the night because you can't make any excuses, one thing you can do is to SAY ( do not invite her or ask nicely as a gentleman you are ) that you are hungry and you gotta eat something, take her to some late night restaurant close to your place ( that will be closed obv ) and then you act surprised "oh they are usually open this time wtf but I live around here, lets go up and I have some food/play some video game/make some cocktails/ meet my cat / whatever you want to say but make it sound natural like its not a big deal GG

Ok makes sense. That's a really sneaky strat.. clever

man yikes. some of the stuff drone said is clearly good, but some is clearly bad, and yet more is clearly dangerous. this culture of no means yes is...troubling, and the idea that you need to dupe a woman into sleeping with you is inane. yes women tend to be attracted to confidence, but confidence can be displayed in a myriad of ways. confidence isn't definitively proven by using plans and back up plans that get her into bed a few hours after you meet her. it is just as fine to go out on a normal date and know that you have no plans to sleep with her on the first date, and if all your actions convey that confidently, that is fine too. you can go out on a second date and go from there, and if what you're looking for doesn't happen in what is a reasonable amount of time for you, then move on. it doesn't implicitly mean that you used the wrong cheat codes or whatever. sometimes two people who date don't sleep with each other and that's no big deal. that's dating - not everyone clicks.

you went out of your bubble, did stuff that you normally wouldn't that worked out, made some type of move and she clearly had a good time. it sounds like if things continue to go well, you'll sleep together soon. if promises of that keep occurring and not happening then again, might be time to reevaluate but i can't imagine being so pessimistic with some of that pure alpha dribble that drone was spouting. id generally say that the best way to be confident is to find an area that you are comfortable in and then have a date take place in that context and let the confidence come out...but it seems like you did well enough out of your bubble maybe other things will work for you. the one thing i would recommend is not trying to unnecessarily defend yourself/feel inferior because you view her as more successful/more whatever than you. that, and things like that, are decidedly unattractive. just be comfortable being you and find instances while dating to make the best parts of yourself come out. confidence, in whatever form it takes, is important - but in what some of the more popular opinions of what confidence is can be displayed, its a thin line between confidence, and elitism or douchebaginess and should be tread very carefully.

Hahah this comment's section was dynamite. Why is there a random salty dude ranting about how he is excluded from the 95th percentile of the genetic lottery because he is not a tall white male? In any case, drone is either trolling or essentially LP's biggest douche. The fact that he believes every date is a game and there are pawns that need to be moved in certain order to checkmate a woman into sleeping with you is absurd. It only shows his bitterness and how much he has been ghosted or used in the past - most likely because of his attitude (which results in a chicken or the egg debate). I don't feel like reading all of your blogs to find out your intentions and I do not know your age but I can tell you that not every woman - especially mid to late 20s - is online dating just to hop scotch through some mental gymnastics and test their dates to see if they are alpha enough to cash in. Just have and be fun, be respectful and be patient. If you get played, you get played - big deal move on. But don't cross any lines and don't have any expectations. I have online dated for years and although my experiences have been great and fun, 9 times out of 10 the connection will fizzle out. Women just rarely take online dating seriously enough to extend the effort necessary to strike up something meaningful.

On January 14 2019 15:01 PoorUser wrote: man yikes. some of the stuff drone said is clearly good, but some is clearly bad, and yet more is clearly dangerous. this culture of no means yes is...troubling, and the idea that you need to dupe a woman into sleeping with you is inane. yes women tend to be attracted to confidence, but confidence can be displayed in a myriad of ways. confidence isn't definitively proven by using plans and back up plans that get her into bed a few hours after you meet her. it is just as fine to go out on a normal date and know that you have no plans to sleep with her on the first date, and if all your actions convey that confidently, that is fine too. you can go out on a second date and go from there, and if what you're looking for doesn't happen in what is a reasonable amount of time for you, then move on. it doesn't implicitly mean that you used the wrong cheat codes or whatever. sometimes two people who date don't sleep with each other and that's no big deal. that's dating - not everyone clicks. you went out of your bubble, did stuff that you normally wouldn't that worked out, made some type of move and she clearly had a good time. it sounds like if things continue to go well, you'll sleep together soon. if promises of that keep occurring and not happening then again, might be time to reevaluate but i can't imagine being so pessimistic with some of that pure alpha dribble that drone was spouting. id generally say that the best way to be confident is to find an area that you are comfortable in and then have a date take place in that context and let the confidence come out...but it seems like you did well enough out of your bubble maybe other things will work for you. the one thing i would recommend is not trying to unnecessarily defend yourself/feel inferior because you view her as more successful/more whatever than you. that, and things like that, are decidedly unattractive. just be comfortable being you and find instances while dating to make the best parts of yourself come out. confidence, in whatever form it takes, is important - but in what some of the more popular opinions of what confidence is can be displayed, its a thin line between confidence, and elitism or douchebaginess and should be tread very carefully.

well said

PoorUser GOAT always and forever

On January 14 2019 15:01 PoorUser wrote: man yikes. some of the stuff drone said is clearly good, but some is clearly bad, and yet more is clearly dangerous. this culture of no means yes is...troubling, and the idea that you need to dupe a woman into sleeping with you is inane. yes women tend to be attracted to confidence, but confidence can be displayed in a myriad of ways. confidence isn't definitively proven by using plans and back up plans that get her into bed a few hours after you meet her. it is just as fine to go out on a normal date and know that you have no plans to sleep with her on the first date, and if all your actions convey that confidently, that is fine too. you can go out on a second date and go from there, and if what you're looking for doesn't happen in what is a reasonable amount of time for you, then move on. it doesn't implicitly mean that you used the wrong cheat codes or whatever. sometimes two people who date don't sleep with each other and that's no big deal. that's dating - not everyone clicks. you went out of your bubble, did stuff that you normally wouldn't that worked out, made some type of move and she clearly had a good time. it sounds like if things continue to go well, you'll sleep together soon. if promises of that keep occurring and not happening then again, might be time to reevaluate but i can't imagine being so pessimistic with some of that pure alpha dribble that drone was spouting. id generally say that the best way to be confident is to find an area that you are comfortable in and then have a date take place in that context and let the confidence come out...but it seems like you did well enough out of your bubble maybe other things will work for you. the one thing i would recommend is not trying to unnecessarily defend yourself/feel inferior because you view her as more successful/more whatever than you. that, and things like that, are decidedly unattractive. just be comfortable being you and find instances while dating to make the best parts of yourself come out. confidence, in whatever form it takes, is important - but in what some of the more popular opinions of what confidence is can be displayed, its a thin line between confidence, and elitism or douchebaginess and should be tread very carefully.

Good insights. I recognize that I do need to learn to be more comfortable with myself when I'm with women who are high achievers, esp considering I'm attracted to these types of women and dating older. I lack experience, but I find there's some use in Drone's (and other alpha male types) strategies. The majority of single people use online dating to date nowadays, and in online dating women have all the leverage and infinite amounts of attention. They're at a huge advantage, so these 'red pill' or 'alpha male' attitudes/strats provide men with an edge in the dating game. I don't agree with a lot of it, since I prefer to take a more genuine approach and I like showing vulnerability, but some of it definitely seems useful. I agree with you for the most part though.



Where do you guys think I should take her for the second date? At the end of the first date I suggested dancing again, because it was fun and it got her in the romantic mood. But she made a comment that we wouldn't have the opportunity to talk much if we go dancing again. Maybe dinner? It's difficult to build sexual tension over dinner and to suggest a nightcap at her place afterwards (My place is out of the question because I drive 45min to see her).


The 1st date turned out so well because we had something fun and active to do. All the fun venues (downtown) are about 25min from her place, and even further from mine. The only options near her place are bars and restaurants, and she doesn't drink. May suggest outdoor skating downtown.

this blog & comments= amazing

On January 14 2019 15:01 PoorUser wrote: man yikes. some of the stuff drone said is clearly good, but some is clearly bad, and yet more is clearly dangerous. this culture of no means yes is...troubling,

I never said that, I said that I read her saying no the way she did was a shit test, and this is a basic thing that girls do all the time, and this is different than saying and meaning no
doesn't mean that everytime they say no it's a shit test, doesn't mean that everytime they say no it means yes, you are just confused because you dont even know what a shit test is

and the idea that you need to dupe a woman into sleeping with you is inane. yes women tend to be attracted to confidence, but confidence can be displayed in a myriad of ways. confidence isn't definitively proven by using plans and back up plans that get her into bed a few hours after you meet her. it is just as fine to go out on a normal date and know that you have no plans to sleep with her on the first date, and if all your actions convey that confidently, that is fine too. you can go out on a second date and go from there, and if what you're looking for doesn't happen in what is a reasonable amount of time for you, then move on. it doesn't implicitly mean that you used the wrong cheat codes or whatever. sometimes two people who date don't sleep with each other and that's no big deal. that's dating - not everyone clicks.

this is another thing that I didn't meant, this is what I sent him on private:

but in general dont get too worried about HAVING SEX, but def pay attention to not get attached to other people validation, seems like you only had a good time because other people accepted and validated you and not because you were really having fun independent of the outcome

I meant that the goal should be him having fun doing whatever he wants, and not to have the goal of having sex, unless he's super horny, this obsession with taking the girl to bed is mostly a social conditioning caused by lack of confidence that he needs to prove to everyone else and to himself that he's capable

I'm sorry, your intentions are good but you clearly don't know much about what you talking about

Btw stay away from red pill, I just saw that you mentioned my advices related to red pill, they are retards and it's not in any way what I mean, they are exactly what pornuser is saying I am lol

Just a bunch of nerds trying to get validation by brute forcing and pretending they are tough and alpha

not really looking to get into a debate with you so i'll just answer quickly and be done on my end.

On January 15 2019 01:57 drone666 wrote: I never said that, I said that I read her saying no the way she did was a shit test, and this is a basic thing that girls do all the time, and this is different than saying and meaning no doesn't mean that everytime they say no it's a shit test, doesn't mean that everytime they say no it means yes, you are just confused because you dont even know what a shit test is

i understood what you meant and that is the point.

and the idea that you need to dupe a woman into sleeping with you is inane. yes women tend to be attracted to confidence, but confidence can be displayed in a myriad of ways. confidence isn't definitively proven by using plans and back up plans that get her into bed a few hours after you meet her. it is just as fine to go out on a normal date and know that you have no plans to sleep with her on the first date, and if all your actions convey that confidently, that is fine too. you can go out on a second date and go from there, and if what you're looking for doesn't happen in what is a reasonable amount of time for you, then move on. it doesn't implicitly mean that you used the wrong cheat codes or whatever. sometimes two people who date don't sleep with each other and that's no big deal. that's dating - not everyone clicks. [this is another thing that I didn't meant, this is what I sent him on private but in general dont get too worried about HAVING SEX, but def pay attention to not get attached to other people validation, seems like you only had a good time because other people accepted and validated you and not because you were really having fun independent of the outcome

I meant that the goal should be him having fun doing whatever he wants, and not to have the goal of having sex, unless he's super horny, this obsession with taking the girl to bed is mostly a social conditioning caused by lack of confidence that he needs to prove to everyone else and to himself that he's capable I'm sorry, your intentions are good but you clearly don't know much about what you talking about

if you're salty that i didn't incorporate what you said to him via your PM in my response, im not entirely sure how to respond to that. past that, all i can say is it seems most people itt have seemed to understand a lot of what you've posted as i have. even if that isn't a great representation of how you feel, the onus is generally on the communicator to get it right...especially when they are trying to teach people.

you didn't understand because in you affirmation you said exactly this words : "this culture of no means yes is...troubling"
and there's nothing to do with what I said, I said about making a proper read of when a no means yes

and I'm not salty I just said what I noticed, you clearly haven't done any study about the subject so your advice is not very useful because is based only on your own experience and reflection
I used the word "what I meant" when I added the part that I sent him on private because it's fair to misinterpret like you did what I wrote here, because the intention of my advice wasn't clear without the pm

We talked on the phone for 1.5hrs before she slept. Learned a lot about her..

She invited me to play volleyball at some gathering Friday. I don't play it, but w/e, seems fun. I think she's eager to show me off to her acquaintances. She picked a day where she doesn't have custody of her son. I'll drive to her place, park my car, then we'll leave in hers-- and I assume we're going back to her place afterwards for a nightcap. She said that she already deleted the App we met on and seems to already be settled on me. Aha. I'm flattered. To be honest, I haven't been chatting with anyone on the app since, never told her that though. She talks about all the stuff we'll do together but I can tell she holds back to not come across as needy. And she mentioned that she's looking for exclusivity in a relationship.

We talked about sex for a little bit. She seemed very weird about it. She told me that she was in a sexless marriage for 10 years and divorced 8 months ago, and had an obsession with erotica. She wants to take it slow with me, even though she admitted to experimenting with younger guys after her marriage. She asked me how important is sex to me, and I said it's very important; she replied the same. But then she told me that if we go to her place after the date then she wants me to promise her that we won't have sex. She said that she'll likely want it and will come onto me, but she wants me to restrain myself.

She joked about us reading a sex book together before having sex. Although she said it was a joke I'm not sure; seemed like she was hoping I'd agree with her-- I didn't. She seems sexually repressed or traumatized by bad experiences. I joked about thinking of her in the morning and she said IT"S FINE that I think of her in that way.

She admitted that she likes me calling her every day and likes constant communication. She likes touch, like holding hands. I like these things too, especially since it was lacking with my ex.

I'm beginning to see her vulnerabilities, the chips in the vase that I thought perfect are being revealed. Which is great; it'll help me pull her off the pedestal.

But wtf do I make of the sex thing. On the 1st date she implied having sex on the 2nd. And now the 2nd one is being planned and she's suggesting we wait longer, BUT she chose a day where her son isn't there, and wants me to restrain myself when she makes moves on me when we're at her place. LOLL? Maybe she wants the privileges of having a BF (going out together, having fun, show me off to her girlfriends, a listening ear), without the sex.

Also, she always wanted to have a boyfriend with a six pack. She was with a guy who has one, but it didn't work out due to differences in personality. She's still 'great' friends' with him . I wonder if she expects I have a six pack? I don't. She seems a bit superficial, but then again.. many of us want a girl with a great ass (including me), so I can't judge.



Any red flags here? lol. I like her though, so I'll continue. She lives in this bubble of having her own business coach, spiritual coach, nutritionist/trainer, and already spoke to her spiritual coach about me lol. She's into something similar to law of attraction, but "scientific and with proof"; that consists of envisioning what you want and imagining you already have it. She envisioned her ideal partner, since I arrived she stopped, and now she's envisioning more money. Lol the ridiculous thing is that it seems to be working for her, considering her constant chain of success. She says I should start a business and will show me how eventually.


lots of laughs to be had in this blog. She wants me to call again tomorrow night (i'll call every night until our next date. it'll build amazing chemistry), and I'll keep the focus on her and learn more about whet I'm getting myself into. She's not boring, that's for sure

Some other dude is banging her while you play volleyball with her son

Someone who is into the law of attraction seriously is bottom of the barrel stuff.

You got yourself another temporary chick with loads of red flags and mistakes you are doing haha
Again
Treat this one as an experience
literally 0% chance it will last long term
You're not getting yourself into anything, just have fun and pick up experience.

And please for the love of god
DO NOT STOP DATING OTHER WOMEN!

This woman is right on par with a lot of the older online 'catches' you'll meet. She is fucking super weird and there are probably plenty of good reasons she is a divorced, single mom who is now making up for lost time by banging young dudes. I would proceed would caution and as long as you aren't stressing too much then you should be in the clear. I don't know how hard you fall for chicks but keep your guard up.

^
She left her husband. And she doesn't have most of the baggage a typical single mom has. Her and her ex husband kept the house and keep the son there, and they take turns living in that house half the week. While she has her own separate place the rest of the week. Unlike most single moms she's independent and does fine on her own. She also told me on the phone that the man in her life will be a big priority, despite being a mom.

Aha it's going to be lots of fun.

Drone I'm not playing volleyball with her son haha. It's a 2nd date and her son won't be there. After all you said not to focus on sex. Volleyball will prolly set the mood better than dinner. When we go back to her place I'm not going to hold myself back


Lemon, yes. I should continue to date. But it's all so exhausting to msg back and forth, find date spot, set dates, agree, confirm and drive there. I'll see how Friday goes.

Yeah I like the volleyball idea. Especially once she sees that you are awful at it, it will further prove that you are willing to go outside your comfort zone and will display quite a bit of confidence. Just don't apologize when you suck and just have fun. She lives half of her life in the same home of her previous marriage and obviously still has a ton of contact with her ex. How you do not call that typical baggage, I do not understand. What is your age and her age?

On January 15 2019 14:39 k4ir0s wrote: ^ She left her husband. And she doesn't have most of the baggage a typical single mom has. Her and her ex husband kept the house and keep the son there, and they take turns living in that house half the week. While she has her own separate place the rest of the week. Unlike most single moms she's independent and does fine on her own. She also told me on the phone that the man in her life will be a big priority, despite being a mom. Aha it's going to be lots of fun. Drone I'm not playing volleyball with her son haha. It's a 2nd date and her son won't be there. After all you said not to focus on sex. Volleyball will prolly set the mood better than dinner. When we go back to her place I'm not going to hold myself back Lemon, yes. I should continue to date. But it's all so exhausting to msg back and forth, find date spot, set dates, agree, confirm and drive there. I'll see how Friday goes.

Cause you're doing it fucking wrong :D
Literally takes 2-3 messages or one phone call and one date per week initially in the first couple months

I mean you're learning
But eventually you'll move past this and your life is naturally busy
And you'll start giving the time to people that put in the effort themselves

And for women it's literally they message you first, you ask when they are free and set the date the end

On January 15 2019 15:32 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Cause you're doing it fucking wrong :D Literally takes 2-3 messages or one phone call and one date per week initially in the first couple months I mean you're learning But eventually you'll move past this and your life is naturally busy And you'll start giving the time to people that put in the effort themselves And for women it's literally they message you first, you ask when they are free and set the date the end

Why 1 call per week? What's the logic behind that? Because it removes mystery? The phone call was effortless and she loved it. Seems like it builds attraction and chemistry. And it's fun talking to her.


Could you point out any other mistakes I'm making? I assume you're implying that I'm becoming invested too soon, and giving her too much attention even though she didn't give up sex yet.

On January 15 2019 15:23 OpWestAcct wrote: Yeah I like the volleyball idea. Especially once she sees that you are awful at it, it will further prove that you are willing to go outside your comfort zone and will display quite a bit of confidence. Just don't apologize when you suck and just have fun. She lives half of her life in the same home of her previous marriage and obviously still has a ton of contact with her ex. How you do not call that typical baggage, I do not understand. What is your age and her age?

Volleyball it is. Not apologizing when I suck at it. good tip. Despite the contact with the ex there's nothing there sexually. She told me her ex had issues performing and that she'd only get 20min of sex per month. So I don't think that's an issue. And she's only keeping the home with him to help her son slowly transition into both parents living in separate homes-- It's called 'bird nesting'. It's baggage for sure, but she told me that whoever she dates will be an equal priority.I'm 30 and she's 42 (but super hot ).

Yeah ok you're doing fine. Don't worry about drone or lemon - they seem to keep advocating ideas that would essentially be applied to 'the game' but the fact of the matter is that this woman is 42. She isn't trying to play games and as a 30 year old neither should you. She knows what she wants and she expects to either get it from you or move on which is why she is being so upfront and honest. You aren't two 23 years olds who are still figuring out who you are and what you want. But with a 12 year age gap I would still proceed with caution, chances are this will just be a fun fling and nothing more.

Aha she talked about getting an HIV test done and suggested I do the same, and wants to wait 2 weeks for sex. (Drone and Lemon, I know you're going to suggest I gtfo and cut my losses)

I'm interested in her and will continue. But I'll listen to Lemon and maybe set another first date with someone in the meantime. I'm obv not committed to this girl and need to keep my options open in case this goes nowhere. It's not just about sex. She's been with two guys after her marriage in the past 8 months. I doubt those guys waited that long to get intimate. Her justification: she wants this to last. Or maybe it didn't workout with those guys because they didn't have the patience to wait so long for to get sexual. I will laugh my ass off and gtfo if I get to the 2 week mark and she delays more. It's not just about sex. With sex comes lots of good stuff, like sleeping over, spooning, intimacy etc..

In spite of this, I think something can happen when I come over to her place Friday. She wants to cook a meal for me and talk.

On January 15 2019 19:21 k4ir0s wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2019 15:32 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Cause you're doing it fucking wrong :D Literally takes 2-3 messages or one phone call and one date per week initially in the first couple months I mean you're learning But eventually you'll move past this and your life is naturally busy And you'll start giving the time to people that put in the effort themselves And for women it's literally they message you first, you ask when they are free and set the date the end Why 1 call per week? What's the logic behind that? Because it removes mystery? The phone call was effortless and she loved it. Seems like it builds attraction and chemistry. And it's fun talking to her. Could you point out any other mistakes I'm making? I assume you're implying that I'm becoming invested too soon, and giving her too much attention even though she didn't give up sex yet.

Obviously now it's different as you're hooking up with single moms you for teh love of god should NEVER EVER COMMIT TO LONG TERM
unless they are very very very special

But when you date and are a monogamist with the "perfect" person deep down and you have this close to infinite amount of time, lifetime literally.
So all you have to do is reach out once per week initially, you're not losing on anything, you have plenty of time to build rapport and get to know each other. And almost always it's WAY WAY better in person to do it anyways
I mean you should be a busy person anyways - if you have a successful life how can you suddenly spend hours of texting and calling and shit on a person you barely met and don't really know? (it does take a while to get to know a person)


Also what this does is give the power to the woman
You keep calling once per week

And eventually she'll figure out when she reaches out first you instantly ask her out sooner...so suddenly it's her idea, she can see you whenever SHE wants to and is ready for you and you just take action.
Just something to be said in the society where women are bombarded by men constantly.
Yet are told to be powerful independent equal people, she gets to be completely feminine yet actually the decider and you get to take the initiative on paper

Most women actually like to wonder about you and chase themselves! You just have to do it initially in the first few weeks because most are
1) blocked by society
2) constantly bombarded by men and propositions

It's the same with asking to be exclusive marriage etc. you just give her space to give you the hints and then decide if you want to take action.


And as a bonus, because most of us guys have emotional intelligence of a fucking rock it just allows you a tool to naturally see her attraction and give her the space to show it to you.

Or that she is a structured person, seriously it drove me fucking crazy when an otherwise amazing girl would stop herself from sending messages, keep having these long drafts she'd never send no matter how many times I pointed out how I dislike that, it was just impossible to communicate in other areas too and is a red flag actually

still think of the ex and miss her so. despite having just finished 2hr phone call with this new girl.


I wonder if it's possible to become friends with an ex? It's painful to think that with time she will become a stranger and I'll forget her face. I wanted to text her today, suggesting a friendly outing. Maybe in the future..

On January 17 2019 06:48 k4ir0s wrote: still think of the ex and miss her so. despite having just finished 2hr phone call with this new girl. I wonder if it's possible to become friends with an ex? It's painful to think that with time she will become a stranger and I'll forget her face. I wanted to text her today, suggesting a friendly outing. Maybe in the future..

No.

Your mind will come up with all sorts of rationalizations as to why you should reach out to her. The idea of friendship is one of them right now. It's not actually what you want, but you can do a lot of mental gymnastics to convince yourself (and her) that it is. Stick out no contact for 6 months or however much you need to move on completely and see how you feel then. If there is truly a possibility for friendship, it will still be there.

Updates on Friday night dinner?

Password recovery ain't working. Thus the new account until I remember my pw.

Date went well. Drove to her place early afternoon. We ate cauliflower pizza and talked, then madeout on her bed like two teenagers. She didn't want to go further. Then we drove to the gym to play volleyball with her acquaintances. Ate at an Italian restaurant-- she doesn't drink so she's a cheap date! Then back to her condo. She has no TV so we madeout more on her bed and teased each other hard with most our clothes off. I suggested I grab a condom from my bag and she seemed disinterested, and told me again that she wants to wait another week.

We fell asleep in each others arms and she woke me up with a barrage of kisses and mounted me in the morning. We used no protection. Seems like that's what she was going for. Stupid of me, I know. I'm reckless. But afterwards I made a comment about not using a condom and she said something like "Well, you're low risk and I likely don't have anything". rofl the fuck? Not so comforting to me. She cooked us protein pancakes in the morning, then walked me to my car.

The no condom thing freaked me out, especially the fact that she was disinterested by sex when I suggested using one, yet continued to tease me afterwards. But aside from that all went great. I was terrible at volleyball for the first half, but dominated the second half. Definitely the healthiest date I'll go on, aside from the unprotected sex, which was average at best because my ADHD meds inhibit my performance. Focus or sex drive? Hmmm. I'll choose sex for now and try to focus without the meds.

I'll be seeing her again Wednesday. Will be sleeping over again. She seems more thrilled about a relationship with me than I am, which is refreshing. I am not getting my hopes up. She's much more affectionate in public and in private than my ex, which I adore. I love the physical affection.


Some possible issues: 1) She talks about the future (just like my ex). Subtly implying I could move into her condo in the future which she lives in half the time. Or me joining her on a vacation here and there. My ex did the same thing at the beginning, so I know better not to fall for these fairy tales and I'm not in it for these things anyways. 2) When we talk she likes to make mention of all the guys who pursue or hit on her, and how her ex wants her back. Her justification is that she values honesty and wants to be transparent, but I don't need to know most of it because it makes me feel irritated. She tells me that she communicates to the guys that she met someone. I'm reminded of Drone's words and how she's a coach and can easily turn out to be the manipulative type, so I'm proceeding with caution. 3) Difference is lifestyles is big. She's pretty wealthy and I'm at very different stage in my life. In theory this shouldn't be an issue for a secure man, but I'm not so secure yet and imagine it will be a challenge in the future. What happens when she wants to travel on pricey vacations? She doesn't wine and dine like my ex, so that's good.


Lots of potential though. And I know I have my own red flags and issues. She has realistic expectations and realizes our age difference may be an issue in the future, so she hopes for at least a 1yr relationship. She's a business coach, and I've been talking of moving to the 9 to 5 world. She tells me that I should start my own business and/or become a coach of some sort like her. She even gave me some good ideas and offered her help if I decide to do it. So she's not only making me feel again, but also making me think of what's possible..


It's only been 1 week. Two dates, a night over and half a dozen hours on the phone. She likes to talk on the phone every night before she sleeps, and I admit, I am enjoying it.

rofl yes plz start a business.

lol

yes keep telling yourself that. you are a broke retard probably the best chance for you in business/life is to do gay web cam work.

For the record you are barely employable at a normal job and even with that youd take on debt/lose income while training and would take decades to grind out of cheezburger stakes in life. keep "golddigging" your way to the sky lol. btw women are not retarded you arent getting shit from them money wise.

im not going to.comment on the whole "her opinion > yours thing" and the other shit you wrote.about her being some coach because it is clearly retard logic which you use constantly in all aspects of life (not just when replying to me) so not even going to bother.

On January 21 2019 00:56 hiems wrote: yes keep telling yourself that. you are a broke retard probably the best chance for you in business/life is to do gay web cam work. For the record you are barely employable at a normal job and even with that youd take on debt/lose income while training and would take decades to grind out of cheezburger stakes in life. keep "golddigging" your way to the sky lol. btw women are not retarded you arent getting shit from them money wise. im not going to.comment on the whole "her opinion > yours thing" and the other shit you wrote.about her being some coach because it is clearly retard logic which you use constantly in all aspects of life (not just when replying to me) so not even going to bother.

lol. u realize I played high stakes live much of last year and did well? simply lowered stakes to study. Also have college education + year of working for said college in software. moving out of poker has little to do with current profits. Your turn now. I remember you mentioning hating your dull 9 to 5 job and living at your parents all your life, while dreaming of escaping to SE Asia when you're old with the goal of getting laid. Solid plan, enjoy. No wonder you're a miserable cunt spreading your cancer all over the blogs on this site. You're projecting your incel misery onto others.. we're not all as hopeless as you, and most of us pay bills and dont have the luxury of leeching off parents until retirement.

On January 21 2019 01:14 k4ir0s2 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2019 00:56 hiems wrote: yes keep telling yourself that. you are a broke retard probably the best chance for you in business/life is to do gay web cam work. For the record you are barely employable at a normal job and even with that youd take on debt/lose income while training and would take decades to grind out of cheezburger stakes in life. keep "golddigging" your way to the sky lol. btw women are not retarded you arent getting shit from them money wise. im not going to.comment on the whole "her opinion > yours thing" and the other shit you wrote.about her being some coach because it is clearly retard logic which you use constantly in all aspects of life (not just when replying to me) so not even going to bother. lol. u realize I played high stakes live most of last year and did well? simply lowered stakes to study. Also have college education + year of working for said college in software. moving out of poker has little to do with current profits your turn now. I remember you mentioning hating your dull 9 to 5 job and living at your parents all your life, while dreaming of escaping to SE Asia when you're old with the goal of getting laid. Solid plan, enjoy. No wonder you're a miserable cunt spreading your cancer all over the blogs on this site.

i never said i lived with my parents my whole life. ive been here a year. probably lived in way nicer places than you lol...you keep making shit up. I never said anything about se asia either. also unlike you i can actually afford this thing called a plane ticket and can take vacations pretty much whenever i want.

your the one who said u were broke lol. would love to see what you mean by "did well" you probably made like 30k lol and spent it all.

On January 21 2019 01:28 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2019 01:14 k4ir0s2 wrote:   On January 21 2019 00:56 hiems wrote: yes keep telling yourself that. you are a broke retard probably the best chance for you in business/life is to do gay web cam work. For the record you are barely employable at a normal job and even with that youd take on debt/lose income while training and would take decades to grind out of cheezburger stakes in life. keep "golddigging" your way to the sky lol. btw women are not retarded you arent getting shit from them money wise. im not going to.comment on the whole "her opinion > yours thing" and the other shit you wrote.about her being some coach because it is clearly retard logic which you use constantly in all aspects of life (not just when replying to me) so not even going to bother. lol. u realize I played high stakes live most of last year and did well? simply lowered stakes to study. Also have college education + year of working for said college in software. moving out of poker has little to do with current profits your turn now. I remember you mentioning hating your dull 9 to 5 job and living at your parents all your life, while dreaming of escaping to SE Asia when you're old with the goal of getting laid. Solid plan, enjoy. No wonder you're a miserable cunt spreading your cancer all over the blogs on this site. lol i never said i lived with my parents my whole life. ive been here a year. probably lived in way nicer places than you lol...you keep making shit up. I never said anything about se asia either you keep making shit up. also unlike you i can actually afford this thing called a plane ticket. youd be surprised how fast those things go. your the one who said u were broke lol. would love to see what you mean by "did well" you probably made like 30k lol.

you're cancer

lol say what you want about me but id rather be the villain than you who is a forever broke oliver twist orphan boy. in real life mommy warbucks doesnt save you from the gutter you are actually going to have to not be retarded for that to work.

On January 21 2019 01:37 hiems wrote: lol say what you want about me but id rather be the villain than you who is a forever broke oliver twist orphan boy. in real life mommy warbucks doesnt save you from the gutter you are actually going to have to not be retarded for that to work.

Just stop posting pls. You are in a blog of a person you proclaim you don't care about, using 'retard' like an insult in 2019, writing lol in half of sentences. It's embarrasing and no one cares about your contribution here.

On January 21 2019 08:34 BlizzY wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2019 01:37 hiems wrote: lol say what you want about me but id rather be the villain than you who is a forever broke oliver twist orphan boy. in real life mommy warbucks doesnt save you from the gutter you are actually going to have to not be retarded for that to work. Just stop posting pls. You are in a blog of a person you proclaim you don't care about, using 'retard' like an insult in 2019, writing lol in half of sentences. It's embarrasing and no one cares about your contribution here.

What makes you think im trying to contribute / be popular. Everyone has the right to defend themselves.

K4ir0s is the one who wrote shit in my blog in the first place. He also spoke publicly on very personal stuff that was between me and him in private conversation just so he could feel better about himself / turn people against me. I have the right to say what i want.

Last thing I'll say is im tired of not being able to talk about some of the issues I feel exist for Asian/Asian-American people. Only thing stupid liberals talk about are issues facing black people/muslims/hispanics etc when in actuality Asian/Indian people are the true minority. Yet when I go on here talking about my struggles with online dating I get ostracized. POF data suggests something crazy like <1% match rate for asian males. But apparently its my fault that i cant get dates on tinder. I really dont understand what is so wrong about talking about this. In fact, Id argue why are you all so committed to pretending like this isnt some profound statement about our society?

https://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=1159743
https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1159418/all/what_should_I_do_.html

only times I posted in this his blog, which were non offensive comments. Simply challenged the idea that his mindset is holding him back, and not bc he's short and asian. After that he stalks all my blogs and spreads cancerous replies.

the guy asked for my Skype ID a few months ago for what I thought a friendly convo, then proceeded to ask me questions like "How's your romantic and social life?" "Do you make much money?" "Do you have debt?". Guess he was fishing for personal attacks, hence calling me an orphan.

On January 21 2019 14:12 k4ir0s2 wrote: https://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=1159743 https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1159418/all/what_should_I_do_.html only times I posted in this his blog, which were non offensive comments. Simply challenged the idea that his mindset is holding him back, and not bc he's short and asian. After that he stalks all my blogs and spreads cancerous replies. the guy asked for my Skype ID a few months ago for what I thought a friendly convo, then proceeded to ask me questions like "How's your romantic and social life?" "Do you make much money?" "Do you have debt?". Guess he was fishing for personal attacks, hence calling me an orphan. I didn't even write about growing up in fostercare here on LP. The guy must have stalked my Quora account which I once linked to on this site, since it's the only place I wrote about it. BTW I love being called an orphan. It only reminds me of all that I have overcome.

dude you posted several times on this site about something along the lines of an orphanage and being deprived of companionship during the holidays because of this. stop making shit up about me. its funny you say you posted only non offensive comments on my blog, when just a few comments ago you said you never even posted on there and never even read my blog. i dont even know how to explain your idiotic logic. your the one who asked me if i had student loan debt out of nowhere because you were jealous that i said i had savings and a job.

im not sure what exactly you have "overcome." you are a needy, busto, loser going down on 40 year old women for them to show you a glimpse of the good life. exactly what is it that you have accomplished?

the reason i say "cancerous replies" to you because your posts are all extremely ignorant and just hard to read. you act like you are an expert with women and then tell me that being asian isnt a disadvantage and tell me "plenty of ugly people get laid" and how "im not fucking" and that "i have to lower my standards". you'd have to pay me alot of money to get dating advice from you who has no idea what he is doing. at least drone666 is not a retarded busto like you and actually despite being a good looking dude didnt waste like 10+ years of his life.

Y'all are pathetic

some yo yo ma to calm the storm





3rd date tomorrow. Spending the day and the following morning together. Will cook dinner together, gym, movies and romance. Is too hot too soon a mistake? going with it either way

Who cares? Just go with it. The worst that can happen is that you die. Or, maybe, even worse is getting into a car accident and being in constant pain and only being able to communicate by blinking your eyes. So, then there is this fling not working out and you being sad... Fuck it dude, let's go bowling.

Slept over again. We ate so much. Apparently while sleeping and spooning I kept unleashing thundering farts, which lead her to move to the guest bedroom.


Then at night I heard her spitting a lot in the washroom (she brushed her teeth before we went to bed, so it wasn't that). Made me wonder if she was intentionally vomiting her meal, which would explain a lot considering her slim wait and six pack goal.


Need to do more investigating... and need to not eat so much before bed..

Lol I'm like a borderline narcissist now thats loves himself quite a bit
All this stuff makes me scream abort abort

update?

all your blogs are full of rationalizations of neediness, and heims posts are too funny. No one denies asian men have a disadvantage but dam man, you're approach isn't helping

I'll be spending a few nights with her this week. The last few times we just lied around her couch and bed, listening to music, talking, touching, fucking. We spend hours lying around. She lies on top of me flat and literally kisses my face and neck a hundred times. The physical affection is sweet, especially because I never got a lot of it from my last relationship.

Stroggoz thinks I'm needy? She suggests we talk on the phone every night, even if it's just for 5 minutes. Although the calls usually last 1hr+ each night. She hopes I can sleep over twice a week. She talks of a future of us together a lot. It seems i met my match in terms of neediness, except I am the one controlling the pace this time. And I'm going into this with a little bit more wisdom. I am less attached than her and I have less expectations.

There is a significant age difference (less so than the last one, but still large), and it doesn't seem to bother either of us. I had to make it clear to her that I don't want kids, which I also had to do with the last one. She has a healthier outlook of the future than the last one. She doesn't expect forever. She would be happy if it went a year's distance at least. She jokingly asked me if I have an oedipal complex. I laughed. She said I can be her Oedipus. I laughed harder.

Her ex wants her back and is pursuing her through text. He tells her that he is willing to relocate to her city. Multiple guys are asking her out: one from her gym class, one from her hair salon, and another who got her number before we met. The hyenas are closing in. How do I know this? She tells me. She loves to tell me about the guys who want her. "Honesty is very important to me" she says, but it's more than that. I have to hear her talk about a guy pursuing her every other time we talk and it's annoying. Up until recently I simply told her "Well, I trust that you can handle it and know what to do", and she loved that I said that. But lately, I've become irritated by the fact that she continues to tell me about each and every interaction-- and not only that, but she continues to reply to them. She tells them that she found someone and is dating, but continues to reply. It's not a big issue anyways, just an annoyance. (Advice?)


Will be going to her place tomorrow for two nights. Sex, gym, theater, hot tub, cooking together and little sleep. I'm more motivated with a woman in my life, especially one who does so well for herself. She inspires me to aim higher. As impressive as she is I tease her and treat her like she's 20yo, and she seems to like that. I jokingly call her a charlatan because of the work she does. It's unreal, she works like 10 hours a week and makes six figures. Yet I pay for dinner aha. Well that's not fair, she does contribute in other ways. She reminds me a bit of the wife from the movie Gone Girl (hopefully she doesn't turn out to be crazy).


Enjoying it... I know there are red flags on both sides, and I realize it's temporary. Will enjoy this ride for as long as it lasts.. seems more promising than the last. At the very least I'll gain experience and learn a few things.

You two are dating but there is a lot of grey area here. Some aspects are as if you are in a relationship but you are not. She is mostly testing you and just engaging in the dating game. The fact that she tells these suitors that she is dating and continuing to respond to them is not a positive but at this point it's not really all that negative either. It's only natural. If a woman continues to engage me and says she is dating someone that basically means nothing to me. It communicates to me that she is currently digging a guy she is dating but you never know what will happen. If John Mayer asked her on a date she might have a different answer. Your situation may turn sour. Any desirable woman will have plenty of suitors. The fact is you have to be the best option and continue to be the best option. Getting irritated and insecure is not a good look. I think the key here is not getting too comfortable. If you go from good sex, gym, film, hot tub, cooking together to bad sex, bad movie, and a bad frozen pizza things become problematic. If she continues to bring up these other men just make a joke about it or just playfully roll your eyes. Accept the situation that other men want to fuck your woman and that the woman you are currently into is keeping her options open to a point. Have fun. Life is full of wagers. Just be true to your own particular values and you'll probably end up being ok until you die or get severely injured/sick or have shit values.

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On January 30 2019 05:53 RiKD wrote: You two are dating but there is a lot of grey area here. Some aspects are as if you are in a relationship but you are not. She is mostly testing you and just engaging in the dating game. The fact that she tells these suitors that she is dating and continuing to respond to them is not a positive but at this point it's not really all that negative either. It's only natural. If a woman continues to engage me and says she is dating someone that basically means nothing to me. It communicates to me that she is currently digging a guy she is dating but you never know what will happen. If John Mayer asked her on a date she might have a different answer. Your situation may turn sour. Any desirable woman will have plenty of suitors. The fact is you have to be the best option and continue to be the best option. Getting irritated and insecure is not a good look. I think the key here is not getting too comfortable. If you go from good sex, gym, film, hot tub, cooking together to bad sex, bad movie, and a bad frozen pizza things become problematic. If she continues to bring up these other men just make a joke about it or just playfully roll your eyes. Accept the situation that other men want to fuck your woman and that the woman you are currently into is keeping her options open to a point. Have fun. Life is full of wagers. Just be true to your own particular values and you'll probably end up being ok until you die or get severely injured/sick or have shit values.

Good reply. It's just so annoying. A few days ago I expressed irritation when we were cuddling and her phone lit up and we saw that it was a message from her ex. I said something like: "We're in a committed relationship right? If so, why are you still communicating with these guys who are clearly interested in you?". She basically admitted that she likes the attention after being married for so long, and admitted that it's odd for me. She said she will stop replying to the exs. A few days later (today), we're eating out and her phone lights up again. She opened the text in front of me, being very transparent as usual. It's a guy texting her that her she looks great in her new Whatsapp pic. I sighed internally...... She spoke before me this time and said that she agreed with what I said during our last talk and that guys texting her like this is odd, and she again admitted to liking the attention. I simply told her that I like that she's honest, while probably showing discomfort.

I don't know what to do next time it happens. It's really fucking annoying. These guys got her number before we met. She says their interest will die down as time passes.
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On February 03 2019 19:35 napoleono wrote: update?

We spent 3 nights together at her place. It's fantastic and time passed so fast. We ate at a fancy restaurant, saw a live musical, lounger seats at movies, cooked together, talked plenty and had sex more times than I can count. We also had our first argument, which was about money. I expressed to her that I don't want to spend this kind of money each time we see each other. Even though she spent just as much as me I can't afford dining out and going to shows each week, because I'm only playing poker part-time now and studying part-time. She said that it's important to her that I dine out with her to a nice restaurant once a week and pay, because it makes her feel feminine. I argued that I don't play gender roles and expect to take turns on bills. She clarified that she acknowledges my situation right now, but is talking about the future when I have more financial freedom she hopes I can accommodate her needs. And she added that she will spend just as much money on me, if not more, in other ways-- like treating me to a trip on my bday. We're both used to different lifestyles, since she makes way more than I do. She then told me that she doesn't want to eat out anymore, not until I'm done studying, and that it will benefit her fitness goals anyways. Nice of her..


Part of the argument was about her Law of Attraction beliefs that she was trying to push on me. I don't even want to get into that.. you guys will facepalm and tell me to dismiss her. I try not to attack her beliefs and try find some middle ground with her.


I showed her around the casino today and showed her the room. She significantly older than me and she's very affectionate in public, so it felt a little odd for me to be there with her in the poker room. But then again, she introduced me to some of her friends and brought me along to the places she frequents.



It seems we'll be spending another 3 nights together this week. I'm excited, but also annoyed by how little I get done when I'm with her. We distract each other so easily and constantly have sex. It's nice and all, clearly it's the honeymoon stage, but my daily schedule goes out the window when I'm with her. It's on me, and I need to fix it.

On January 29 2019 18:43 Stroggoz wrote: all your blogs are full of rationalizations of neediness, and heims posts are too funny. No one denies asian men have a disadvantage but dam man, you're approach isn't helping

yea i realize its pretty funny. i laugh at it myself sometimes.

idk if id say no one denies asians are at a disadvantage. i think alot of ppl do deny it (ex girl in video) and if not i think no one talks about it and most ppl want to avoid the subject like the plague.

im going through some stuff // trying to figure out shit in life. in the past year i got kind of pissed off and angry about all of it. its not something often talked about so i guess im trying to find an outlet for my thoughts on this. i used to listen/watch alot of david choe shit in my mid twenties and at the time it was mind blowing to me. the stuff he'd say was just so raw and idgaf but i guess his mouth got the best of him.

my life is an utter mess lol. its kind of a relief honestly tho im tired of being this fake person pretending and playing some role to fit into society. ive gone on a degenerate spree of prostitues in the past year. feels good to say that.

i really dont know what to future is for me. but im trying to figure it all out a little bit at a time and see where it goes.

On February 05 2019 22:29 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2019 18:43 Stroggoz wrote: all your blogs are full of rationalizations of neediness, and heims posts are too funny. No one denies asian men have a disadvantage but dam man, you're approach isn't helping yea i realize its pretty funny. i laugh at it myself sometimes. idk if id say no one denies asians are at a disadvantage. i think alot of ppl do deny it (ex girl in video) and if not i think no one talks about it and most ppl want to avoid the subject like the plague. im going through some stuff // trying to figure out shit in life. in the past year i got kind of pissed off and angry about all of it. its not something often talked about so i guess im trying to find an outlet for my thoughts on this. i used to listen/watch alot of david choe shit in my mid twenties and at the time it was mind blowing to me. the stuff he'd say was just so raw and idgaf but i guess his mouth got the best of him. my life is an utter mess lol. its kind of a relief honestly tho im tired of being this fake person pretending and playing some role to fit into society. ive gone on a degenerate spree of prostitues in the past year. feels good to say that. i really dont know what to future is for me. but im trying to figure it all out a little bit at a time and see where it goes.

Yeah, the Asian disadvantage in dating thing actually is a fascinating topic. David Choe is a hero. I frequently come across his art and charisma from different avenues and I like his vibe. I would love to go to a Korean BBQ in LA with David Choe, Sasha Grey, and Steebee Weebee and shoot the shit. I don't even know if David Choe and Steebee Weebee are Korean. I guess I just assumed it. Do (South) Korean Americans and Chinese Americans even hang out?

Don't be fake to fit in to current society which many aspects of it are absolutely toxic. I think we have to figure out how to be Beasts in a good way. Like Beast from Beauty in the Beast but I think at the end of that story he turns back into the handsome prince which is kind of bullshit if that is what happens. I swear I remember a handsome long blonde haired prince at the end of Beauty and the Beast or maybe I am thinking of John Smith from Pochahantes which is kind of a debacle from a historical perspective. Either way that handsome prince with long blonde hair is the aesthetic I am actually going for these days. Maybe a bit rougher with my tattoos and beard and I am a recovering alcoholic and drug addict or just came from the jungles fighting a Revolution. I would totally date Belle or Pochahantes though. I would totally date Laetitia Casta or Tulsi Gabbard though.

Prostitues can be a very serious addiction. I am glad you are speaking about it. I have fucked around with my fair share of sex workers but it never really stuck as an addiction for me for whatever reason. My inclination is that a 12-step based program might not be a good fit for you but I can't suggest enough for you to explore the behavioral therapy offered through your current employment.

On February 03 2019 21:45 k4ir0s2 wrote: Part of the argument was about her Law of Attraction beliefs that she was trying to push on me. I don't even want to get into that.. you guys will facepalm and tell me to dismiss her. I try not to attack her beliefs and try find some middle ground with her.

I mean, if she s going to be stupid about something, might as well be stupid about something positive :D

I am still yet to meet a woman that doesn't believe in something ridiculous like that. It's either that or astrology 90% of the times.

Pisces in the Hooouuussseee

post more k4iros

also, post more music. there are some fucking killers in here.

Thursday noon. Arrived at her condo 1 hour ago. Our hands roamed all over each other the moment I walked in. From the doorstep to the puddled sheets. This is my home until Monday.


I'm sitting here on the coach, looking out the window at the busy Toronto streets. A few months from now I'll likely be in one of those little cars down there commuting to and from work. But for now I'll bask in my freedom.


She's on a call with a client now, and I'm about to study. Listening to her coach a client through marketing is a new experience. I jokingly call her a charlatan because she charges a ridiculous amount of money to coach people, but it seems she's very good at what she does. The client she is talking to now is a mother of two who makes 15k/month online selling health products entirely through Facebook posts, and this client's other coach makes 80k/month. It's eye opening to be exposed to this business. To make that kind of money playing poker you have to be in such a tiny, top tier percent and work much harder. I look forward to finally quitting poker and being good at something new again. I finished building my web portfolio recently, and i'll be working on my last portfolio item soon. She has some ideas on where I should market myself for freelance work, though I think I would rather work a 9 to 5 for a while first.

I just packed her fridge with delicious food. Each week we plan a few meals and cook together. Last week for valentine's day we dressed up in nice clothes, cooked a feast together and drank wine. That night she used the L word on me, and it caught me by surprise because its only been one month since we met. I did not say it back that night. I like her very much, but love? That's a strong word. I have never said it to anyone before (other than a family member). I thought about it the next few days and decided that I would say it back to her the next time she says it. If uttering three words has the power of bringing her more happiness than I think it's worth saying, and I know I'll grow to love her over time anyways.

The age difference hasn't proven to be an issue. Her last partner was near my age, and my last one was near her age, so both of us have experience in a large age gap relationship. She's gorgeous despite her age. She's aiming for a six-pack, she dreams of owning a glass house and a black Porsche --believing that all of it can be manifested through training her mindset. And she sometimes pushes the same dreams and expectations on me. I tell her that acquiring wealth takes a lot of time and effort, but according to her my mindset is wrong. I don't desire the same things as her anyways. I recognize that none of those material possessions will bring me happiness. I have different goals.

We have a few activities planned this week. We're both spending a few hundred on each other each month. I'm studying and playing less poker, so I'm earning less, and I expressed this to her. She kindly suggested we create a date budget and she drew it out for us. I don't want to wine and dine like I used to, as the expense was not worth the pleasure. I'm glad that she is willing to compromise and adapt to me, unlike my past relationship. Contrary to what Hiem's thinks, I am not after her for her money. We spend equal amounts on each other, and I do not want to get married. Maybe I am just a little boy searching for his mommy. A little orphan boy longing for the warmth of a bosom and a tender kiss. I've read enough Freud to know that the psychoanalytical view of my relationships is that I am attempting to re-create the past through finding another mother who will abandon me. But then again, according to that view everyone is re-creating their past relationships. There is probably heartbreak at the end of this road, much like at the end of my last relationship, but I don't regret the last one and neither will I regret this one.

Life is pretty good right now. It's easier to wake up in the morning knowing there's someone near who cares about me, and knowing that I have a teammate. It's not like I can't bare being alone, as I was entirely alone from 20 to 30; it's that I'm tired of being alone and have learned how great sex, companionship and a woman's warmth is. The challenging part will be to maintain my focus for my own pursuits, and to avoid being consumed by the relationship again.

On February 14 2019 13:42 Spitfiree wrote: I mean, if she s going to be stupid about something, might as well be stupid about something positive :D I am still yet to meet a woman that doesn't believe in something ridiculous like that. It's either that or astrology 90% of the times.

lol. There's nothing I can say that will change her mind about the Law of Attraction. She is pretty convinced that she "manifested" me, like she did with her business and her current lifestyle. Despite what I think, her new age voodoo seems to be working for her. To go from being in an unhappy marriage, having a mom body, and working a 9 to 5 --> to divorcing, getting her dream body, starting her business and finding a much younger partner. What a radical change. I'll disregard her manifestation talk and positive psychology, and implement the envisioning goals part and journaling.

On February 19 2019 17:47 RiKD wrote: post more k4iros also, post more music. there are some fucking killers in here.

Now music, that's one thing I know I love.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=800&v=SiDBiIsFiqU

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