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uiCk   Canada. Nov 28 2017 20:04. Posts 3521

Has nothing to do with offending, has everything to do with political trolls and marketing departments hijacking memes for brainwashing purposes, which is -EV and has nothing to do with peoples moods.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 28 2017 20:10. Posts 5108

brainwashing purposes on liquidpoker ? wtf are u talking about lol

It is not -EV if you look at the entire thing as a joke. It can only be -EV if you care and get triggered. How is it possible to be tilted if something doesnt affect ur mood o_O

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uiCk   Canada. Nov 28 2017 20:27. Posts 3521

I'm talking about memes in general in 2017

Why do you keep insisting about "tilting" and "caring" and "moods". Are you able to read and comprehend what I write?

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 28/11/2017 20:28

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 28 2017 20:34. Posts 5108

Jesus

So how can it be -EV if it doesnt affect ur mood at all (by the way I dont really care at all, im just curious)

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 28 2017 20:38. Posts 5108

"has everything to do with political trolls and marketing departments hijacking memes for brainwashing purposes"

Paranoia

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uiCk   Canada. Nov 28 2017 20:45. Posts 3521

Memes in 2017, have been hijacked by political trolls and advertising companies. They are using jokes for the MAIN purpose of pushing a brand, wether it's political brand or corporate brand. Jesus back to you. Its same as watching ads, your mood might not be altered, but you are still the recipient of propaganda, which may or not influence you, thus being -EV. Just like any form of advertising.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

uiCk   Canada. Nov 28 2017 20:48. Posts 3521

It's not paranoia, it's the reality of memes in 17, your just to dumb to notice it yet

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 28 2017 21:02. Posts 5108

Aight mate

Which political/corporate brand was pushed in Santafairy's post ? Looks like a meme that could be used against any person that argues a certain way to me.

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uiCk   Canada. Nov 28 2017 21:14. Posts 3521

You post about "more memes, they are +EV"

Me post, observation, about how memes in 17 are brand oriented thus -EV

End of conversation.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 28 2017 21:20. Posts 5108


  On November 28 2017 20:14 uiCk wrote:
You post about "more memes, they are +EV"

Me post, observation, about how memes in 17 are brand oriented thus -EV

End of conversation.



Havent really seen much memes in 2017.

But if you and Loco hate them this much I would imagine them beeing mega +EV for me. So more thanks !

End of conversation.

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uiCk   Canada. Nov 28 2017 21:32. Posts 3521

Clearly a misunderstanding thrn, as I love proper memes, and was talking about the globality of meme trends this year

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 28 2017 23:40. Posts 9634

forget about memes and etc. the internet is basically getting wrecked by Ads - Loco is right about that, except he didn't bring a good argument about it - you can't really get out of the loop as a normal person, as it's designed that all of your activity is going to keep you on the topics that most interest you - and thats all thanks to marketing


Loco   Canada. Nov 29 2017 14:43. Posts 20963

It's not just ads though, you can have ad block everywhere and still end up dumbing yourself down and being a slave to those who profit from it. So, the wider concern is the experience of any consumer with new forms of media. The old notion is that technology is just a tool that we use for our own purposes, which is extremely naive and dangerous. There's a lot to be said about that. People should be familiar with Marshall McLuhan's work if they want to break out of that and maybe consider what is said in this video as well:

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 29 2017 23:34. Posts 9634

I don't mean Ads as only those banners popping up on the sides of sites. I'm in digital marketing right now and honestly, I can just bombard users with information I want just because they're visiting a certain place and keep them in that cycle. The "Ads are getting smarter" joke from South Park is pretty spot on. Ads are not the Ads you expect now - they're probably 80% of the content the average user gets to read on a daily basis if not more.


P.S. I've read something similiar to that video, but 40% of daily activity being habits seems a bit off, isn't the number MUCH higher?

P.S. I realize now that "Ads" isn't exactly the correct term to use here, but yeah I think you get the idea. Breaking the cycle requires conscious action and even that might not be enough

 Last edit: 29/11/2017 23:38

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Dec 02 2017 18:05. Posts 5108


  On November 28 2017 20:32 uiCk wrote:
Clearly a misunderstanding thrn, as I love proper memes, and was talking about the globality of meme trends this year



Meme analyst...

:D 

RiKD    United States. Dec 03 2017 04:03. Posts 8535


  On November 29 2017 13:43 Loco wrote:
It's not just ads though, you can have ad block everywhere and still end up dumbing yourself down and being a slave to those who profit from it. So, the wider concern is the experience of any consumer with new forms of media. The old notion is that technology is just a tool that we use for our own purposes, which is extremely naive and dangerous. There's a lot to be said about that. People should be familiar with Marshall McLuhan's work if they want to break out of that and maybe consider what is said in this video as well:




Is there a video how to get out of habits?

Social media I just deactivated everything and said good riddance. i am actually really happy with that one. Being a month or two or even 3 or more months separated social media is madness. I bet I would say the same for lp.net unfortunately or fortunately if I got away from it and prospered. I can't even go through all the bad habits I have accumulated and won't here but this video wakes me up to them and how great would it be if I didn't hit the snooze button 6-7 times every morning.


RiKD    United States. Dec 03 2017 04:06. Posts 8535

Last post could potentially swing it back around to getting your shit together how to live a finite life. How the fuck do we bust through some of these habits. Some small, some large but altogether 40% of our day is habit? How many of those are good habits/bad habits? How do we get unhooked? The determinist boogey man is trying to get us. We must quell that bastard and beat him until he will help us or beat him to death.


RiKD    United States. Dec 03 2017 04:08. Posts 8535

Also, on the ads. How do we avoid the secret seduction?


Santafairy   Korea (South). Dec 24 2017 19:34. Posts 2226

habits are good, certain of them are necessary just to be in the same game as everyone else, like reading the news, maybe it's not optimal but what else can you do

almost nobody is able to be more, however you want to characterize the enlightened goal, productive, virtuous, by improvising than by structuring

it takes a superman to just make it up as you go along and fill every day with motion, and while theoretically I guess you can be most efficient that way, it also risks penalties, for example as much as I like Trump, who is always on, he clearly is missing something valuable like an honest perspective of his own weaknesses or something, but we all have to ultimately accept some dimension of imperfection so whatever

the reason we like structure is you don't have to think about the structure, you need really refined decision making to handle just constantly steering directions and, start with bouts of that don't go all-in on it, if you want to work harder an easier way is to just work with a denser structure, accelerate how much you are doing each day of the same thing, like how many hands you break down or whatever the subject is

life is simple, eat 3-4 times a day, exercise, read, masturbate when necessary, fill your day with things you are interested in, most importantly don't be nervous, people being nervous and self-conscious is the worst thing, it makes them passive and therefore stupider than their potential because they don't grow and learn and ask questions, and makes them neurotic also, now on the other hand nervousness keeps groups of people from being dangerous which is good for society, but for the individual it's a huge anchor, although it's not irrational because if you don't know what you're doing then of course you should freeze, but it also works in the reverse, it stops you from being competent and unleashing your potential unfettered, but unmerited confidence is a disaster, you need functional confidence only because hubris is very dangerous

mainly improve and eventually things will fall into place, structure is easier because you can always increase density, if you find focus is difficult then diversify what you're doing and then every different thing will be new again, or also use different methods like rote and interactive and analysis and study

some people can be taught this some have it in their upbringing others have to internalize these realizations through experience and most will never get it, which is not something you can lose sleep over as the world doesn't want you to rescue it even if you tried wouldn't accept your help

I used to think leveling to further and further abstraction was the best direction but that was a mistake, you just end up alone on some esoteric mountain

actually you must practice constant literacy at many levels, for example are you a mathematician who can numerically solve PDEs but can't do long division by hand, or people use words and "know" what they mean but can't define them if prompted

this is why people do crosswords, or I recommend daily MCAT questions because everyone loves science and science is interesting and fun but what about doing actual problems

this is not to say you must uniformly distribute effort among every level, obviously, different levels are going to be more important to you and of course they get priority, it would be a waste if all you did was sudoku and rubik's cubes, what this is about is keeping you at peak general readiness, so even if you play terran it is worth keeping an amount of familiarity with muta micro and so on

one of the reasons is related skills benefit from synergistic effects, for example painting and drawing

but also unrelated skills benefit each other simply by improving your base stats and balance, which is why chess players exercise

some people are uncomfortable getting better because they are worried about their identity, their individuality, if you strive for an ideal there's something impersonal about that like you'll lose something unique, but in reality if you don't change you slowly move down the curve anyway

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

cariadon   Estonia. Dec 25 2017 09:33. Posts 4019

good post Santafairy


 
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