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On September 21 2017 22:10 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 19 2017 17:35 RiKD wrote:   On September 19 2017 04:37 Baalim wrote:   On September 18 2017 21:24 Stroggoz wrote: I think i would be substantially more happy earning 1 million a year than 60k. It would give me a mindset of complete freedom, knowing that i never have to be a wage slave ever again, and i can afford to be free of various institutions that i dislike being shackled by. The only downside would be knowing the ridiculous criminality of earning that much a year haha. Studies show that hapiness and income are strongly correlated but it flatlines at about 100k a year (in the US), so the Yatch, the bahamas and the lambo doesnt have much of an impact but not having to worry about money does. Where did you get that info? I think it is probably more accurate than the $75k info but it is definitely somewhere in there. It also depends a lot on location. $100k in New York City trying to live like some yuppie making $500k/yr is going to be a disaster but $100k in a midwest city living like someone in the middle class is going to free someone up and go along way. $100k in Buenos Aires is basically baller status and you can do whatever you want more or less. I dont remember precisely, TED talk perhaps, but the precision isnt important, we all know money at X ammount stop giving you happiness like, having 100 million or 500 million is essentially the same, but we usually overestimate how quickly hapiness flattens in relation to income. So basically the only "trade" that interests you is cooking? You mentioned it was glamorized in TV and that its really 9 hours in a hot kitchen and it sucks... then you dont have a passion for cooking, you just want to be Gordom Ramsay lol. Find what you like to DO, not what the upper position of that job looks like.

Yeah, I would watch these chef shows and be amazed at the creations. Now that I am actually in the kitchens prepping food and cleaning and I am only there for like 30 hours a week it is like no thank you. I don't even really ever cook for myself. I just like eating.

I would say I was raised in a house, community, and culture that it was always expected of me to go to college. I think most expected I would follow what a lot of men in the family did and major in some form of chemistry and go down that route. Trades were basically not even an option for me. They were more or less looked down upon. So, I never really considered it. I have now but I think I still have that bias. I did some work renovating houses and now I am not. The work dried up and I just didn't really consider looking for more. I mean the list of trades is really too long to go through. In my past I have considered being a steelworker or a bricklayer pretty heavily. I do agree that I have to figure out what I like to DO and not have bullshit fantasies of having the ultra desirable gigs overnight.

it takes simple Google search/isn't really all that high level top secret worldy knowledge to figure out that chef requires insane dedication/work. if you did not know this going into it and were all like "la de da it's so cool on tv," I don't know what to tell you except you need to stop with the bs on this forum.

It's simple but not that simple. I thought I might want to be a chef. I loosely knew that the hours could be tough and that I would have to be there from open to close more or less. I took a job in food and bev. Talking with the kitchen manager (former sous chef/culinary school graduate) and seeing what him and the general manager have to deal with I started to see the realities of what it takes. Lower levels of cook/chef you really just prep food and clean up after yourself. I have found out I don't particularly like it. It can actually be looked upon as a relief as I didn't waste money on culinary school or anything like that. I am more concerned with how to move on from here. I can cross off something else that I don't want to do but I still need to find what I do want to do.

lol OK man.

edit: nvm, misread last post

Rik hi buddy. Just had a look at ur recent couple of posts and sorry to hear ur in a situation ur not content with. don't really have any useful advice to offer but rooting for you mate. p.s. why the dislike of office jobs?

On September 30 2017 20:09 Romm3l wrote: Rik hi buddy. Just had a look at ur recent couple of posts and sorry to hear ur in a situation ur not content with. don't really have any useful advice to offer but rooting for you mate. p.s. why the dislike of office jobs?

Hi K, good to see you on here. I think the dislike of office jobs stems from a still present macho sales team position. We took pride in not being in offices but rather out in the field making the company revenue while people in the offices were simply costs. Of course that is a stupid oversimplification and I could not have done my job with out office workers. I think the other reason is when I was coming off of short term disability for my mental illness and alcoholism the company put me in an office and I had a really rotten attitude. I got put in an open nice office and everyone resented me because they wanted that office and then other times I got put into a really awful corner cubicle. It was 8 hours a day of doing safety reports. I had to write the reports for every piece of equipment in the building. Part of it was training me to understand the equipment so I could more easily transition into a job there. The other part of it is that the office was overworked and badly needed those reports done. Either way I was not in a grateful mood but rather resented everything. That was my only real office experience. I look at it now and it would be nice to have that job they offered me. It was lower in pay and status but not a terrible fit and it was mostly for rehabilitation purposes and not a permanent thing. So, I really should not have a dislike of office jobs. I think it just depends on what I would be doing and the people there. I also dislike discussing sports or traffic or the weather at the watering hole and that whole culture that can be found in offices. Vulgarian managers. I might just not like being in close quarters with all those people. Still, I would snap call an office job at this point if the tasks weren't too bad and I liked my manager.