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UFC on FOX 21: Maia vs. Condit

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 22 2016 04:46. Posts 13047

Date: Saturday, August 27th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:00 LP.net / 2pm PST / 5pm EST
Preliminary Card (FOX): 23:00 LP.net / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Main Card (FOX): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (FOX)

Demian Maia (23-6) vs. Carlos Condit (30-9) (Welterweight)
Anthony Pettis (18-5) vs. Charles Oliveira (21-5) (Featherweight)
Paige VanZant (6-2) vs. Bec Rawlings (7-4) (Women's Strawweight)
Joe Lauzon (26-11) vs. Jim Miller (26-8) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (FOX)

Sam Alvey (27-8) vs. Kevin Casey (9-4-1) (Middleweight)
Enrique Barzola (11-2-1) vs. Kyle Bochniak (6-1) (Featherweight)
Garreth McLellan (13-4) vs. Alessio Di Chirico (9-1) (Middleweight)
Shane Campbell (12-5) vs. Felipe Silva (7-0) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Chad Laprise (10-2) vs. Thibault Gouti (11-2) (Lightweight)
Alex Ricci (10-3) vs. Jeremy Kennedy (8-0) (Lightweight)

Other

- Josh Emmett was expected to face promotional newcomer Jeremy Kennedy at the event. However, Emmett pulled out of the fight on August 19 with an undisclosed injury. UFC promotional newcomer Alex Ricci replaces Emmett against Jeremy Kennedy.
- The Ultimate Fighter: China winner Ning Guangyou was expected to face Marlon Vera at UFC 202. However, due to an out-of-competition failed test and following investigation concluding Guangyou ingested the substance without fault or negligence, the bout was moved to this event. In turn, the bout was postponed again due to alleged visa issues for Guangyou, which restricted the timing of his travel.
- Chad Laprise missed weight, coming in at 159 lbs. As a result, he was fined 20% of his fight purse, which will go to his opponent Thibault Gouti. The fight will proceed as scheduled.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 22 2016 04:49. Posts 13047



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First impression of the match-ups:

• Maia > Condit
• Oliveira > Pettis
• PVZ > Rawlings
• Miller vs. Lauzon (dunno)
• Alvey > Casey
• Kenny vs. Ricci (dunno)
• Bochniak > Barzola
• Campbell > Silva
• Laprise > Gouti
• Chirico > McLellan
• Vera > Ning
• Janes vs. Hunter (dunno)

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 22 2016 18:47. Posts 10468

Like ur picks, not sure about the maia fight that one is so tough for me. I guess that is reflected in the dead even odds. I feel like one guy prob has a decent edge though just not sure who. Rly depends if maia is able to do his thing vs condit.

I also thick pettis will win but that is probably biased


alejandicto   . Aug 22 2016 20:37. Posts 865

mmmmm tough to call I think Condit can TKO Maia cause is a 5 round fight.

Oliveira is good but I think Pettis got this. Miller vs Lauzon will be FOTN for sure.

Rooting for Barzola :D


Floofy   Canada. Aug 22 2016 21:04. Posts 8708


  On August 22 2016 17:47 traxamillion wrote:
Like ur picks, not sure about the maia fight that one is so tough for me. I guess that is reflected in the dead even odds. I feel like one guy prob has a decent edge though just not sure who. Rly depends if maia is able to do his thing vs condit.

I also thick pettis will win but that is probably biased



If that was 3 rounds i would be all over maia. I am pretty sure round 1 will go maia's way. But i also think condit can survive.

By round 3, maia will slow down and condit can probably take over, and maybe even get a finish.


I'm probably betting condit due to this being a 5 rounds fight.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 22 2016 22:04. Posts 13047

Maia vs. Condit: I like this fight to go o3.5 rounds @ -130 (the line was originally at -160).

1. While it's a 5-round fight, Maia has shown good cardio when he's able to secure take downs on the first attempt and when his opponent doesn't put up much of a struggle.

2. Condit has always been easy to take down, mostly cuz his height and he just sucks against elite TD artists.

3. Percent and consistency wise, Maia has the best TDs at welterweight (correct me if I'm wrong). Taking down Condit in the first 2 rounds will be easy.

4. Condit has good BJJ, and I don't think he'll get submitted.

5. What worries me as a Condit backer is how well he'll be able to defend the take downs after the first 10 minutes. Let's say that Maia slows down after the first 2 rounds, and Condit starts looking better on the feet. Condit can EASILY get taken down in Round 4 or 5 and lose a decision. People thinking Condit will just automatically TKO Maia after he starts to slow down are wrong, as Maia is so good at clinching and stalling action, and Condit has always needed distance to be an effective striker.

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Pettis vs. Oliveira: no lines are out yet as of me posting this on Monday @ 1:55pm PST.

1. Pettis is dropping to 145 for the first time. He MIGHT deal with a bad weight cut in his first drop to a lower weight class, and he MIGHT not be fully adjusted to the faster fighters at 145 like Frankie Edgar wasn't against Aldo (Pettis had problems with the faster + aggro fighters at 155, so it'd make sense if he had the same problems at 145 where guys are faster in general than 155`ers).

2. Pettis is on a 3-fight losing streak. 2 fights were against wrestlers who wouldn't give him space and kept taking him down, and one fight was against a rangy aggressive striker who WOULD NOT fight at Pettis' slow pace and kept moving.

3. Oliveira is the same height as Pettis, and also has a 2-inch reach advantage.

4. While we know Pettis has good BJJ, Oliveira has MUCH better BJJ and is more active with it. Say what you want about Myles Jury and Hatsu Hioki, but Oliveira gave both of them their first BJJ losses, and both of those guys were known to have good defensive BJJ in MMA: Jury with 1 sub loss is 17 fights, and Hioki with 1 sub loss in 39 fights.

5. While Pettis is known for his striking, he's a low to medium volume striker who isn't good at fighting at a high pace, and is facing a guy with above average movement who also fights at a distance.

I mean, I guess Pettis is the rightful favorite for what he has done at 155 pounds, but imo, you're a sucker if you pay over 2-1 for him in this spot. There's too many unknowns for him in this fight.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 23 2016 01:56. Posts 13047

Alright, I changed my mind on the Maia/Condit fight. I'm switching to Maia. I'll do further research on Thursday or Friday.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 23 2016 03:58. Posts 13047

Hometown Fighters (Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA)*
• Chad Laprise
• Shane Campbell
• Jeremy Kennedy
• Ryan Janes
• Adam Hunter

UFC Debut
• Jeremy Kennedy (Lightweight)
• Alex Ricci (Lightweight)
• Felipe Silva (Lightweight)
• Adam Hunter (Middleweight)
• Ryan Janes (Middleweight)

Late Replacements
• Alex Riccci filling in for Josh Emmett vs Jeremy Kennedy (8 Days)

Fighters on Losing Streaks
• Anthony Pettis - 3
• Chad Laprise - 2
• Thibault Gouti - 2
• Shane Campbell - 2

Long Layoff
• Charles Oliveira (9 Months)
• Paige Vanzant (9 Months - Was competing in Dancing with the Stars)
• Enrique Barzola (10 Months)
• Ryan Janes (14 Months - Had difficulty scheduling fights, works full time in web development)

New Weight Class
• Anthony Pettis (Lightweight to Featherweight)
• Jeremy Kennedy (Featherweight to Lightweight)
• Enrique Barzola (Lightweight to Featherweight)


Size Disparities

Height
• Sam Alvey 3 inches taller (Sam Alvey vs. Kevin Casey)
• Marlon Vera 3 inches taller (Ning Guangyou vs. Marlon Vera)

Reach
• Carlos Condit 3 inch reach advantage (#4 Demian Maia vs. #5 Carlos Condit)
• Alessio Di Chirico 3 inch reach advantage (Garreth McLellan vs. Alessio DiChirico)
• Marlon Vera 6 inch reach advantage (Ning Guangyou vs. Marlon Vera)

*Considering all Canadian fighters Hometown Fighters for this card. Following fighters fighting out of British Columbia: Shane Campbell, Jeremy Kennedy and Ryan Janes

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iakim322   United States. Aug 23 2016 04:32. Posts 1335


  On August 22 2016 17:47 traxamillion wrote:
Rly depends if maia is able to do his thing




That's like the crux of every single Maia fight. Would be cool to see Condit smoothly move laterally to dodge a clinch/takedown attempt from Maia and uncork a heavy headkick like his moment vs GSP. Because I think Condit retires if he loses this and I enjoy watching him. But I think Maia's probably gonna Maia just enough in the majority of 3-4 rounds to win a decision while surviving a couple dangerous moments

Pettis's career is nuts. First fighter to get on such a mainstream thing like the Wheaties box while looking like a champion at 155 who could have some longevity if he had better injury luck. Then hasn't been able to buy a win since to the point that he has to move down in weight 3 fights removed from looking so good as champion in a higher weight class. Go Pettis. You can't go out like this


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 23 2016 05:47. Posts 13047





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soberstone   United States. Aug 23 2016 06:16. Posts 2662

Oliveria is a very good match up for Pettis - A slowish plodding guy with horrible durability, extremely hittable and poor offensive wrestling in space.

Would it surprise me if Pettis let Oliveria get a takedown from the clinch and grind him out / find the submission? No. Should it happen? Absolutely not, there's no excuse given Pettis's athleticism and skill-set. Pettis should finish Oliveria in spectacular fashion after picking him apart for a round or two.

As for Maia vs Condit, toss-up but I lean Condit.


alejandicto   . Aug 23 2016 15:05. Posts 865

Odds:

 Last edit: 23/08/2016 15:24

alejandicto   . Aug 23 2016 15:27. Posts 865

I dont know if I am going to bet something in this card, very difficult for me to find value in these fights : (


Floofy   Canada. Aug 23 2016 16:34. Posts 8708


  On August 23 2016 04:47 PuertoRican wrote:







Holy shit i have to watch this stuff

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 23 2016 18:51. Posts 13047

Ning Guangyou was forced out of his fight against Marlon Vera due to visa issues. Their fight will be rescheduled for a later date.

This card will go on with 11 fights instead of 12.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 23 2016 21:50. Posts 13047



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lucky331   . Aug 24 2016 01:24. Posts 1124


  On August 23 2016 14:05 alejandicto wrote:
Odds:




waht website is this?


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 24 2016 02:22. Posts 13047


  On August 24 2016 00:24 lucky331 wrote:
Show nested quote +



waht website is this?

https://bestfightodds.com/

You can change the money line format in the top right area of the website.

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alejandicto   . Aug 24 2016 05:47. Posts 865

My mistake, I like decimal format:


northsails   Bulgaria. Aug 24 2016 14:49. Posts 410

Remember that time when Pettis closed as -750 favorite over RDA. LOL, talk about a hype job this guy is the closest thing we have seen to Ronda.

Since then Pettis looks lost to me. He got himself a new wresting coach for the Alvarez fight and lost it. Then he changed camps and got outclassed by Barboza. Now he is dropping a weight class... , what is next?

Having said that Oliveira is the perfect match up for him to shine again. Other than his insane bjj, he has nothing for Pettis. His footwork is far from stellar, his striking is slow and not very fluid, he is easily hittable and not the most durable guy. If he losses that fight, He might as well retire.

Also I think Bec Rawling has some value. Her line should get even better by fight night.


cariadon   Estonia. Aug 24 2016 15:18. Posts 4019

How likely is it Maia submits Condit ?
I'd bet condit if it weren't high.


alejandicto   . Aug 24 2016 19:35. Posts 865

I just bet on Condit on betsson he was at -105. Just 10 bucks and I think thats going to be my only bet for this event.


iakim322   United States. Aug 24 2016 20:32. Posts 1335


  On August 24 2016 13:49 northsails wrote:
Remember that time when Pettis closed as -750 favorite over RDA. LOL, talk about a hype job this guy is the closest thing we have seen to Ronda.

Since then Pettis looks lost to me



Damn. So how many millions did you win that night?


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 24 2016 20:51. Posts 9634

Sorry, calling him a hype job considering RDA was in his best juiced up physical condition in his life is quite a bad argument.
He s entertaining to watch for sure.

Thats like saying Conor was a hype job after his Diaz loss, except Diaz wasnt juiced, but still physically they are in 2 different leagues.


northsails   Bulgaria. Aug 24 2016 20:55. Posts 410

LOL. Why the butthurt iakim?

Pettis have always been overrated to me, ever since losing to Guida and fighting a close fight with Jeremy Stephens. I have been betting againt him ever since his second Hendo fight.

Lost some and won some as usual in sports betting


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 24 2016 22:28. Posts 13047


  On August 24 2016 14:18 cariadon wrote:
How likely is it Maia submits Condit ?
I'd bet condit if it weren't high.


Hard to put it into percentages, but Maia can submit Condit.

If they fought 10 times and Maia had him on the ground for 10 minutes in those 10 fights, I'd say he could submit Condit at least 4 times. (I mentioned 10 minutes, which equals 2 rounds, and I think Maia will have Condit on the ground for most of the first 2 rounds, unless he gets a fast submission)

Glover Teixeira had only been knocked out (TKO) one time in 14 years, and it was in his pro MMA debut. However, he met Anthony Johnson last weekend and got 1-punch KO`ed like it was no big deal. I see Maia as the Anthony Johnson of submissions, in that they'll both finish you more often than not.

  On August 24 2016 18:35 alejandicto wrote:
I just bet on Condit on betsson he was at -105. Just 10 bucks and I think thats going to be my only bet for this event.


Does your book offer live betting? Or even in-between rounds betting?

Many people are waiting to live bet Condit/Maia.

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impact69   Mexico. Aug 24 2016 22:46. Posts 307


  On August 24 2016 19:51 Spitfiree wrote:
Sorry, calling him a hype job considering RDA was in his best juiced up physical condition in his life is quite a bad argument.
He s entertaining to watch for sure.

Thats like saying Conor was a hype job after his Diaz loss, except Diaz wasnt juiced, but still physically they are in 2 different leagues.



it is confirmed what RDA was juiced up? or just speculation for his last fight?


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 24 2016 23:17. Posts 13047


  On August 24 2016 21:46 impact69 wrote:
Show nested quote +



it is confirmed what RDA was juiced up? or just speculation for his last fight?

He's just speculating.

RDA has a fight scheduled against Tony Ferguson on November 5 in Mexico City, Mexico.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 25 2016 04:12. Posts 13047




New video. I also added it to the previous post with 4 videos from BJJ Scout.

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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 25 2016 08:06. Posts 34250

Condit is creative, aggressive and a bit sloppy with his striking because he has a very solid guard, he is also very good at getting back up but Maia is a fucking wet blanket, he is not going to lose position I think this fight goes to a decision very often because either Maia simply wins by laying on top of him 3+ rounds or Condit fights very smart and doesnt fall for Maias shitty faints.


I cant believe people really get taken down by Maia in that way reacting to his punches, he has never thrown a hard punch in his life, just dont mind his stupid punches, dont react to them and pot shot him to a victory.

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whamm!   Albania. Aug 25 2016 13:23. Posts 11625

^ lol I agree. Condit will light him up for the short 3 rounds. If it's a 5 round fight then possibly there will be a small window that Maia gets lucky but Condit's jits is also pretty damn good and will probably defend it


alejandicto   . Aug 25 2016 17:17. Posts 865


 
Does your book offer live betting? Or even in-between rounds betting?

Many people are waiting to live bet Condit/Maia.



No I only bet on Inkabet and Betsson, the two more known sites for betting in my country (Perú), but both sites dont offer live betting in mma only for soccer : (

Maybe I should start betting live on another sites, I never did it in mma :O

 Last edit: 25/08/2016 17:49

northsails   Bulgaria. Aug 25 2016 18:47. Posts 410


  On August 25 2016 12:23 whamm! wrote:
^ lol I agree. Condit will light him up for the short 3 rounds. If it's a 5 round fight then possibly there will be a small window that Maia gets lucky but Condit's jits is also pretty damn good and will probably defend it



great analysis

 Last edit: 25/08/2016 18:47

TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 26 2016 17:22. Posts 6817


  On August 25 2016 12:23 whamm! wrote:
^ lol I agree. Condit will light him up for the short 3 rounds. If it's a 5 round fight then possibly there will be a small window that Maia gets lucky but Condit's jits is also pretty damn good and will probably defend it


Has Condit consistently defended takedowns from anyone, ever?

This is a fight where he could probably just spend all camp only defending takedowns, but historically he hasn't bothered with it so that's a bit worrying to me.

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

Stim_Abuser   United States. Aug 26 2016 19:59. Posts 7499


  On August 25 2016 07:06 Baalim wrote:
Condit is creative, aggressive and a bit sloppy with his striking because he has a very solid guard, he is also very good at getting back up but Maia is a fucking wet blanket, he is not going to lose position I think this fight goes to a decision very often because either Maia simply wins by laying on top of him 3+ rounds or Condit fights very smart and doesnt fall for Maias shitty faints.


I cant believe people really get taken down by Maia in that way reacting to his punches, he has never thrown a hard punch in his life, just dont mind his stupid punches, dont react to them and pot shot him to a victory.



I saw an interview with Condit recently saying he's worked on a bunch of new stuff this camp, including lots of footwork. So we could see him try and use a ton of movement to try and keep space from him at Maia. That said I don't think Maia relies on his feints as much as you suggest. He will often shoot with no set up just trying to time it with your punches and even if you stuff him initially he's really good at chain wrestling/sticking to you till he gets you down.

Honestly I can see this fight go a ton of ways. Maia via decision or early sub. Condit via early tko, late tko, or decision.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 26 2016 20:14. Posts 13047




^ Real weigh-in.


170 lbs.: Demian Maia (171) vs. Carlos Condit (170.5)
145 lbs.: Charles Oliveira (143) vs. Anthony Pettis (146)
115 lbs.: Bec Rawlings (115.5) vs. Paige VanZant (115.5)
155 lbs.: Joe Lauzon (156) vs. Jim Miller (154.5)
185 lbs.: Sam Alvey (186) vs. Kevin Casey (185)
145 lbs.: Enrique Barzola (145.5) vs. Kyle Bochniak (145.5)
155 lbs.: Shane Campbell (156) vs. Felipe Silva (154.5)
155 lbs.: Jeremy Kennedy (155.5) vs. Alex Ricci (156)
155 lbs.: Thibault Gouti (155) vs. Chad Laprise (159*)
185 lbs.: Alessio Di Chirico (185) vs. Garreth Mclelland (184)
185 lbs.: Adam Hunter (185.5) vs. Ryan James (185)

*fined 20-percent of his purse for missing weight.

Gouti and Campbell both weighed in with 10 minutes or less to go. Gouti doesn't look happy, while Campbell seems okay.

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^ Weigh-in after the fighters have re-hydrated for about 6 hours.

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ERASA   Germany. Aug 26 2016 22:26. Posts 2440

paige, miller and pettis looked rough at the real weigh ins...


Montrachet   Canada. Aug 26 2016 22:50. Posts 120

Miller looked like he just got into a fight, damn. Paige has both eyes black.


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 01:44. Posts 13047

[[[Bellator starts at 10pm EST tonight instead of 9pm EST, so 50 more minutes until start time.]]]

Bellator 160 starts in 15 minutes on Spike TV. (7pm PST/10pm EST)

Benson Henderson vs. Patricio Freire (Lightweight)
Georgi Karakhanyan vs. Bubba Jenkins (Featherweight)
Saad Awad vs. Derek Anderson (Lightweight)
A.J. McKee vs. Cody Walker (Featherweight)


This is a really good card, even for Bellator.

If any of you are going to bet on these fights, I'd suggest:

Patricio 1u @ +230
Georgi .5u @ +145
Awad .5u @ +150

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 01:52. Posts 13047

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soberstone   United States. Aug 27 2016 02:17. Posts 2662

Pettis did look awful at real weigh-in, but somehow Oliveria is way bigger than him and weighed in at 143, which is nutty cuz he misses weight half the time. Weird.


Stim_Abuser   United States. Aug 27 2016 03:07. Posts 7499

I don't think Pettis looked as bad as people make it out, we're just used to seeing him at 155 where he had a lil extra fat on him. It's not like he looked like McGregor or James Irvin.

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whamm!   Albania. Aug 27 2016 03:11. Posts 11625

bjj scout video was great but I give this to condit by tko

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 03:43. Posts 13047


  On August 27 2016 00:44 PuertoRican wrote:
[[[Bellator starts at 10pm EST tonight instead of 9pm EST, so 50 more minutes until start time.]]]

Bellator 160 starts in 15 minutes on Spike TV. (7pm PST/10pm EST)

Benson Henderson vs. Patricio Freire (Lightweight)
Georgi Karakhanyan vs. Bubba Jenkins (Featherweight)
Saad Awad vs. Derek Anderson (Lightweight)
A.J. McKee vs. Cody Walker (Featherweight)


This is a really good card, even for Bellator.

If any of you are going to bet on these fights, I'd suggest:

Patricio 1u @ +230
Georgi .5u @ +145
Awad .5u @ +150


Georgi with the R1 knockout.

2 more dogs to go.

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Awad lost a close fight. Both he and Anderson fought below their usual level, so I'm not sure what to say about it. Maybe they were nervous, dunno.

Patricio is now +295.

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Patricio won Round 1, then he stopped the fight himself early in Round 2 because something went wrong with his foot, so he lost. It was the first time Patricio has ever been "stopped" in a fight.

He closed at +340.

Benson got SUPER lucky there, because he got taken down in Round 2 and was looking like he had no answer for the speed and movement of Patricio.

Talk about conspiracy theory...

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 27 2016 04:50. Posts 10468

i think pettis looked fine; supposedly he doesn't even cut rly at all fighting 155 (barboza was way bigger in there his last fight). prob walks at 160. this was his first real cut.

page looked hot imo, better than usual I thought. like a cute girl without makeup even tho she was prob wearing it. thought it was funny she doesn't even flex her arms at all at the end like she is trying to look girly and feminine rather than look a strong intimidating fighter. I'm sure shed rather do some modelling / TV and already has one foot in the door (and out of mma)


soberstone   United States. Aug 27 2016 09:08. Posts 2662

More I think about it more I think Condit is fucked.

Was originally slightly leaning Condit due to the 5 round massive cardio edge factor but now I'm leaning pretty strongly Maia. I feel like I've been overrating Condit's ability to make Maia work on the ground in the early rounds and get the dynamic changed by the middle of the fight.

Don't get me wrong, Condit is definitely a crafty offensive BJJ guy, but that obviously doesn't play here, and for some reason I had it in my head that he was better than he might actually be from an all around grappling standpoint.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 10:53. Posts 13047

I'm heading to bed.

Just wanted to remind everyone that this is a FOX card, which means it starts earlier than the usual UFC cards.

Due to 2 fights getting canceled, this fight card will start at 2pm PST / 5pm EST. It was originally supposed to start one hour earlier than that.

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alejandicto   . Aug 27 2016 13:18. Posts 865

My final bets:

- 20 bucks on Condit (10+10)
- 10 bucks on Barzola
- 15 bucks on Pettis


MiPwnYa    Brasil. Aug 27 2016 17:32. Posts 5230


  On August 27 2016 09:53 PuertoRican wrote:
I'm heading to bed.

Just wanted to remind everyone that this is a FOX card, which means it starts earlier than the usual UFC cards.

Due to 2 fights getting canceled, this fight card will start at 2pm PST / 5pm EST. It was originally supposed to start one hour earlier than that.


thanks for the heads up man


Stim_Abuser   United States. Aug 27 2016 17:42. Posts 7499

Awad vs Anderson was an awesome fight. Really surprised how Bendo looked. When he left the UFC I still considered him a top 5 LW, he should have won against Cerrone. How he was on his way to losing to a fringe top 10/15 FW? wth.

Condit - Fights a flip but picking Condit because I like him more

Pettis - I think his TDD is good enough to avoid the grappling with Aloe Vera, and Aloe Vera reaaaally doesn't like to get hit and Pettis is a sniper. Hope Pettis looks good, a rejuvenated Pettis would be a good add to the mix at 145.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 18:53. Posts 13047


  On August 27 2016 16:42 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Pettis - I think his TDD is good enough to avoid the grappling with Aloe Vera, and Aloe Vera reaaaally doesn't like to get hit and Pettis is a sniper. Hope Pettis looks good, a rejuvenated Pettis would be a good add to the mix at 145.



FWIW, I think Oliveira has better take downs than Eddie Alvarez.

If Pettis doesn't get a quick knockout, Oliveira will probably surprise you with his taoe downs, especially against someone like Pettis. Pettis has a good wrestling coach, but he won't be able to stop the take downs if it goes to R2, imo.

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 21:12. Posts 13047

Final picks:

• Maia > Condit
• Oliveira > Pettis
• PVZ > Rawlings
• Miller > Lauzon
• Alvey > Casey
• Kennedy > Ricci
• Bochniak > Barzola
• Campbell > Silva
• Laprise > Gouti
• Chirico > McLellan

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iakim322   United States. Aug 27 2016 21:25. Posts 1335

I thought Pettis's body looked fine. It's just that his face being extra sucked in made his profile look like some weird caveman version of himself. Oliveira looked good. Should be fun and hopefully an explosive fight after a minute or two. Hoping Pettis can find a shot to badly hurt Oliveira or finish him by end of r1 or middle of two

Rawlings looked pretty deathly at the real weigh in but I guess she always has a tough cut? Either way the speed/athletisicm gap for PVZ should be pretty massive

Someone mentioned how good Maia's chain wrestling is. Made me remember how often I think an opponent is gonna shake off his initially weak looking takedown attempt only to see Maia still somehow holding on to a limb or two a good 6 seconds later before he drags the guy down. Going to go small on Condit though to trust in Condits ground defense and hope for the combination of a little damage being done at the beginning of rounds with Condit making Maia work for each position so his cardio advantage can come into play. Admittedly that last bit is very hopeful. Never seen someone move from position to position and control his opponent so effortlessly like Maia




iakim322   United States. Aug 27 2016 21:30. Posts 1335

I'm on Bochniak and PVZ. Pretty tiny wagers on Pettis and Condit though I also picked up Pettis in the majority of my dk lineups

Prob fish move hoping for the showtime revival but whatever

 Last edit: 27/08/2016 21:31

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 21:42. Posts 13047


  On August 27 2016 20:30 iakim322 wrote:
I'm on Bochniak and PVZ. Pretty tiny wagers on Pettis and Condit though I also picked up Pettis in the majority of my dk lineups

Prob fish move hoping for the showtime revival but whatever

I could end up being totally wrong, but I think Pettis/Oliveira will go to a decision. I picked Oliveira by decision on my UFC.com fantasy picks.

I'll post my DK teams in a bit.

Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 22:07. Posts 13047

1. Alvey, Campbell, Chirico, Oliveira, VanZant ($5 team)
2.
3. Alvey, Campbell, Chirico, Miller, VanZant ($3 Sherdog team)
4.
5. Alvey, Bochniak, Maia, Oliveira, VanZant ($3 team)
6. Alvey, Bochniak, Campbell, Chirico, Pettis ($3 team)
7.
8. Alvey, Campbell, Chirico, Miller, VanZant ($2 team)
9. Alvey, Bochniak, Campbell, Lauzon, VanZant ($2 team)
10.
11. Alvey, Lauzon, Maia, Oliveira, VanZant ($.25 team)
12. Alvey, Campbell, Maia, Pettis, VanZant ($.25 team)
13. Casey, Lauzon, Maia, Oliveira, VanZant ($.25 team)
14. Alvey, Bochniak, Campbell, Oliveira, VanZant ($.25 team)
15. Bochniak, Campbell, Condit, Pettis, VanZant ($.25 team)
16. Alvey, Bochniak, Oliveira, Silva, VanZant ($.25 team)
17. Alvey, Maia, Miller, Pettis, Silva ($.25 team)
18. Alvey, Bochniak, Lauzon, Maia, Silva ($.25 team)
19. Alvey, Bochniak, Kennedy, Maia, VanZant ($.25 team)
20.
21. Bochniak, Casey, Lauzon, Pettis, VanZant ($500 free roll)

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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 27 2016 22:43. Posts 13047

Great finish by Laprise.

Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 28 2016 00:49. Posts 13047

Great job by Alvey. He really showed improvement in this fight, even though it might not have seemed like it at first glance.

Rekrul is a newb 

Sliggy   Australia. Aug 28 2016 00:57. Posts 742

I've seen Kevin Casey fight just about each time ever since his TUF season and I've never been impressed by a single thing the guy has ever done.

sup 

iakim322   United States. Aug 28 2016 01:24. Posts 1335


  On August 27 2016 23:57 Sliggy wrote:
I've seen Kevin Casey fight just about each time ever since his TUF season and I've never been impressed by a single thing the guy has ever done.



His physique us impressive. I hear that doesn't win fights tho


ERASA   Germany. Aug 28 2016 01:36. Posts 2440

i had that the other way...


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 28 2016 01:37. Posts 13047

I had it 30-27 Lauzon, but only cuz he got on top of Miller one way or another in each round. Miller won the fight on the feet, which is where most of the fight took place.

I'm glad Miller got the win.

Rekrul is a newb 

traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 01:38. Posts 10468

While miller won that standup i really didnt think he won the fight. 30-27 lauzon would be fine imo but at least 29-28. Too bad joe didnt fire off that armbar sooner


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 01:45. Posts 10468

Bendo looked TERRIBLE last night. Was about to get 30-27d or KOd before the bellator featherweight broke his leg getting his kick checked. Guessing Chandler smashes him


ERASA   Germany. Aug 28 2016 01:55. Posts 2440

Paige 'Showtime' VanZant!


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 28 2016 01:56. Posts 13047




LMAO @ Karate PVZ!

Lyoto Machida just creamed in his pants.

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:00. Posts 10468

Sick ko. Bec looked terrible


Montrachet   Canada. Aug 28 2016 02:06. Posts 120

Mister Miyagi must be so proud. Paige Vanzant-Son


Sliggy   Australia. Aug 28 2016 02:11. Posts 742

Hahahahahaha she's such a little ADD spaz. Love it. Good win.

sup 

traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:21. Posts 10468

Pettis looking good. Was worried at the end of 3 min mark with olivera on his back

 Last edit: 28/08/2016 02:22

traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:21. Posts 10468

Nice to see pettis outpower someone


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:22. Posts 10468

Honestly shocked charles hasnt quit


alejandicto   . Aug 28 2016 02:26. Posts 865

mmm Pettis looking a little gassed


Montrachet   Canada. Aug 28 2016 02:26. Posts 120

Pettis is gassed or what?


ERASA   Germany. Aug 28 2016 02:28. Posts 2440

1-1..


alejandicto   . Aug 28 2016 02:28. Posts 865

1-1?


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:29. Posts 10468

Pettis looking very gassed. First time hes cut like this and no test cut. Could def be hurting him. Could get subbed this round.


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:29. Posts 10468

Could be 2-0 petis


alejandicto   . Aug 28 2016 02:31. Posts 865

YEah!!!!! Fucking Pettis submits Oliveira :D


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:31. Posts 10468

Thank you. Good job pettis. Hit the treadmill homie


ERASA   Germany. Aug 28 2016 02:31. Posts 2440

WHAT?! omg...


Sliggy   Australia. Aug 28 2016 02:32. Posts 742

YES PETTIS!

sup 

ERASA   Germany. Aug 28 2016 02:33. Posts 2440

so now maia by tko then? lol


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:33. Posts 10468

Some nice defense considering oliveira had his back full on 3 times. He seemed mostly well prepared here


iakim322   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:34. Posts 1335

Got em Pettis


alejandicto   . Aug 28 2016 02:36. Posts 865

Pettis is a boss, oliveira had his back and he reversed it 3 times from a very bad position. He looked gassed in round 2 tho.


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:41. Posts 13047

Pettis with the luckbox submission. He was on his way to losing a decision.

Rekrul is a newb 

alejandicto   . Aug 28 2016 02:56. Posts 865

GO COndit!!!


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:58. Posts 10468

Lol jesus


ERASA   Germany. Aug 28 2016 02:58. Posts 2440

#beastmode :D


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:58. Posts 10468

Ufc is gonna hate this guy as champ


alejandicto   . Aug 28 2016 02:58. Posts 865

................


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 02:59. Posts 10468

Had a feeling this would happen as much as i didnt want it to. Hedged out of an earlier bet on condit


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 03:01. Posts 10468

Probably woulda been better off giving up mount than his back. Condit was fucked realistically either way i think his equity there was quite low wishful thinking aside


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 28 2016 03:01. Posts 13047

Was Maia's choke under the chin? I couldn't tell.

Anyway, I'm glad it ended fast. It would've been a boring fight if Condit was able to defend.

Condit took a massive risk fighting Maia. He wanted that instant title shot if he won this fight, but now he will retire for sure like he was gonna do after the robbery loss to Lawler.

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 03:05. Posts 10468

Na it was a face wrap, maybe squeezing the sides of the neck.


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 03:08. Posts 10468

Respect to maia for at least acting like it wasnt the easiest fight of his life.

If you fight maia you should prolly do some quick sprints around the inside of the octagon before and after the bell rings to break a nice sweat. Make sure u got a solid gastank and sacrifice a little of it to not get snap choked out by that fucking human snake


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 28 2016 03:35. Posts 13047




DraftKings: Risked $20, won $15, lost -$5.

Basically, Shane Campbell cost me from having a good night. He's just terrible. Regarding Oliveira, the fight was going the way I expected it to, and imo, he was on his way to winning a decision b4 Pettis got that submission. Also, I didn't have Chad Laprise in any teams cuz he's known as a decision fighters, not a R1 KO artist. Lastly, I didn't have Maia in a bunch of teams cuz I expected either a decision or a late finish, but I was wrong there; glad I faded Condit for the most part.

I went 8-2 on my picks, so I'm happy that I was able to read most of the fights.

I start my first semester of my teaching credential classes next week, so I won't be doing much research for my upcoming picks on DK. That being said, less research might be a good thing, considering Summer 2016 was the most I've ever watched tape/studied fighters, and it ended up being my longest losing streak on DK.

Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 28 2016 03:41. Posts 13047




Maia just said his submission wasn't a crank, it was a choke; a blood choke. He cut off the blood flow to the side of the neck.

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 28/08/2016 04:50

Raidern   Brasil. Aug 28 2016 03:47. Posts 4243

aw man so disappinted with the outcome of oliveira-pettis. I didn't want pettis to lose the 4th in a row but still i had to root for charles. such a shame he was caught. on the other side im also happy pettis won. I think he definitely lives up to his nickname showtime and has some very quick and sneaky subs.

im a regular at nl5 

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 28 2016 05:42. Posts 13047

https://youtu.be/q6PVBZPU_Vg?t=21m9s

Damn...

What a way to end the press conference after he said he got rocked by a shot from Maia when he was closing the distance. He said he felt a little dizzy, or something similar, and he didn't expect that from Maia.

Rekrul is a newb 

Montrachet   Canada. Aug 28 2016 05:49. Posts 120

Well its good to see him being honest. Its a reality that as you grow older and get more damage, its harder to take the shots. Everyone will end up being Ko. I would not be surprised to see DC gets KO'ed soon even though he proved to be a tank. But, that being the last question with no follow up sure sucks.


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 07:15. Posts 10468

says something about what fighting does to the brain

like binge drinking booze makes blacking out progressively easier and easier

or doing blow daily for long enough leads to anxiety and panic attacks; hotwiring adrenal/nor-epinephrine response

you can tell how sick disappointed and disillusioned condit is after this one. sucks


traxamillion   United States. Aug 28 2016 09:06. Posts 10468

just rewatched condit woodley.

condit basically eats the same bomb (or dam close) that put lawler away multiple times and a very hard spinning elbow. Sad that a maia gnp strike had him so phased...


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 28 2016 13:10. Posts 9634

Hopefully Pettis regains some confidence now. Him vs Aldo, if he actually fixes his cardio, would be quite entertaining to watch imo, prob never going to happen though.


TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 29 2016 08:54. Posts 6817


  On August 28 2016 01:41 PuertoRican wrote:
Pettis with the luckbox submission. He was on his way to losing a decision.


I wasn't able to watch this one yet, the recaps Ives seen talk like Pettis was winning all the grappling exchanges and won fairly comfortably, is that just BS?

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

cariadon   Estonia. Aug 29 2016 10:59. Posts 4019

Forgot to bet on Condit... lucky. Glad Pettis won, he looked good. Maia what a beast, took Condit apart real fast.


alejandicto   . Aug 29 2016 16:12. Posts 865


  On August 29 2016 07:54 TianYuan wrote:
Show nested quote +


I wasn't able to watch this one yet, the recaps Ives seen talk like Pettis was winning all the grappling exchanges and won fairly comfortably, is that just BS?


Pettis had good moments but he was about to lose a decision.


impact69   Mexico. Aug 29 2016 17:50. Posts 307


  On August 29 2016 15:12 alejandicto wrote:
Show nested quote +



Pettis had good moments but he was about to lose a decision.




I thought it was 1-1 and the 3rd round looked close, am I crazy?


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 29 2016 21:37. Posts 9634

Thought its 1-1 and tbh the way 3rd round went I'm fairly certain Pettis was leading, considering how he outmanoeuvred him multiple times


traxamillion   United States. Aug 29 2016 23:08. Posts 10468

agree with spitfire.

oliveira basically just had takedowns; if pettis steps up his TDD he dominates


PuertoRican   United States. Aug 30 2016 00:46. Posts 13047

I had Oliveira winning R3 prior to getting subbed. Pettis was tired and was going to lose a decision.

Rekrul is a newb 

alejandicto   . Aug 30 2016 15:34. Posts 865

Round 1 Pettis, round 2 Oliveira and round 3 Oliveira was winning, Pettis was gassed as fuck. I was happy he got the sub cause I bet on him.


alejandicto   . Aug 30 2016 16:08. Posts 865

this is round 3:

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Anthon...liveira_UFC_on_Fox_21_Part_3/10137541

and maybe is cause I bet on him and was scared he loses the decision, but now I see that the round was closer than I remembered. My point was that Pettis didnt won the match fairly comfortably it was a hard match for him. (Answering to Tianyuan)


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 31 2016 05:07. Posts 34250


  On August 29 2016 22:08 traxamillion wrote:
agree with spitfire.

oliveira basically just had takedowns; if pettis steps up his TDD he dominates



No he was getting lit up on the feet too, his problem is his gas tank, he is better than Olivera on the feet and on the ground, he simply gets tired too quickly

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