- A middleweight bout between former Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion Gegard Mousasi and Derek Brunson was expected to take place at this event, but on June 19 it was announced that Brunson pulled out due to injury and was replaced by Thiago Santos.
- A lightweight bout between Joe Lauzon and The Ultimate Fighter 1 winner and former lightweight title challenger Diego Sanchez was originally booked for UFC 180. However, the bout was cancelled due to both fighters being injured. The fight was later rescheduled for this event. Also, another couple of lightweight bouts between former PRIDE Lightweight Champion Takanori Gomi and Jim Miller, as well as Sage Northcutt and Enrique Marin are expected to take place at this event.
- Also on the card there will be a women's bantamweight bout between former title challenger Cat Zingano and The Ultimate Fighter: Team Rousey vs. Team Tate winner Julianna Pena, and a bantamweight rematch between former UFC Bantamweight Champion T.J. Dillashaw and Raphael Assuncao. The pairing first met at UFC Fight Night: Maia vs. Shields in October 2013, when Assuncao won a close bout via split decision.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 20 2016 06:49. Posts 13050
- Cormier (+240)
- Jose Aldo (+100)
- Gastelum (+145)
- Nunes (+210)
- Hunt by KO (-159)
- Velasquez KO (-110)
- Lauzon by Submission (+570)
- Northcutt + Velasquez + Dillashaw (+121)
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soberstone   United States. Jun 20 2016 22:20. Posts 2662
On June 20 2016 15:54 alejandicto wrote:
My possible bets:
- Cormier (+240)
- Jose Aldo (+100)
- Gastelum (+145)
- Nunes (+210)
- Hunt by KO (-159)
- Velasquez KO (-110)
- Lauzon by Submission (+570)
- Northcutt + Velasquez + Dillashaw (+121)
I really like all your bets besides Aldo and Hunt KO -159 seems a little steep
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Floofy   Canada. Jun 20 2016 23:30. Posts 8708
On June 20 2016 15:54 alejandicto wrote:
My possible bets:
- Cormier (+240)
- Jose Aldo (+100)
- Gastelum (+145)
- Nunes (+210)
- Hunt by KO (-159)
- Velasquez KO (-110)
- Lauzon by Submission (+570)
- Northcutt + Velasquez + Dillashaw (+121)
take my comments with a grain of salt, i am not a winning player.
I don't like the cormier bet. I think Jones has shown us Cormier has no answer for him. I don't see what he can do to beat Jones.
The Aldo one is tough, but i feel like Edgar has improved since their first fight. On the other hand, Aldo most likely is declining. Most champs who get KTO tends to come back weaker. And even if the best aldo shows up, i feel like this is a close fight.
Gastelum bet is a trap imo. People are thinking Hendricks is suddenly bad, but i think he's still an elite fighter, its just Thompson is super elite. He still made Matt brown look like a beginner.
Nunes bet: I don't have a strong opinion on this, but PuertoRicain told me that the HUGE gambler who bet on Holm and Tate is now betting on Tate again.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 21 2016 00:48. Posts 2662
I agree on Cormier not necessarily being a great bet but I thought he was competitive with Jones the first time and has gotten better. I favor Jones and think the odds are about right but I wouldn't say it's a runaway fight.
The huge bettor is Vegas Dave and he's just a huge degen who has gotten lucky IMO but we'll see.
There is no way in hell there is value on Miesha Tate at -260. She almost lost to Sarah McMann, who Nunes absolutely annihilated. Tate also gets dropped a lot, including to Jessica Eye. MMA math doesn't prove anything, but in addition to that factor, Nunes tore Zingano a new asshole in rd 1 before gassing. She's the hardest hitter in WBW, one of the best strikers, has much improved TDD. It's basically a question of weather she can avoid gassing if she doesn't finish Miesha (which she probably won't). Considering the magnitude of the fight, I bet she comes in shape.
It's rare that I'd be a pick 2:1 dog SU but this is an instance where I legitimately favor Nunes.
I just think it's a perfect storm of public perception being high on Miesha and a relatively unknown / under-rated fighter in Nunes being much better. Kind of a similar situation to Rousey vs Holm but without the insane hype.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 21 2016 00:56. Posts 2662
As for the Gastellum bet I really like it. I just don't see a huge edge for Hendricks anywhere. I think Gastellum has much better cardio, more output, and similar kick-boxing and handspeed in the pocket. Both have granite chins but I actually think Kelvin's may be even better.
Obv on paper Hendricks is the better wrestler but I don't think he'll have the cardio to really wrestle much with someone as strong, stalky, and as proficient a scrambler as Kelvin.
To me the fight is a pickem, so I'd just as soon bet Hendricks as a dog.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 21 2016 01:56. Posts 34250
betting on those odds for the Hunt KO seems pretty bad, its a likely result but that like sucks.
and I agree there is a lot of value on Gastellum, Hendrix honestly looks worse and worse every fight, i dont know why but he has lost his KO power and his wrestling doesnt look as dominating as before, he seemed like a better fighter when all he had was his left and takedowns.
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Floofy   Canada. Jun 21 2016 04:08. Posts 8708
On June 20 2016 23:48 soberstone wrote:
I agree on Cormier not necessarily being a great bet but I thought he was competitive with Jones the first time and has gotten better. I favor Jones and think the odds are about right but I wouldn't say it's a runaway fight.
The huge bettor is Vegas Dave and he's just a huge degen who has gotten lucky IMO but we'll see.
There is no way in hell there is value on Miesha Tate at -260. She almost lost to Sarah McMann, who Nunes absolutely annihilated. Tate also gets dropped a lot, including to Jessica Eye. MMA math doesn't prove anything, but in addition to that factor, Nunes tore Zingano a new asshole in rd 1 before gassing. She's the hardest hitter in WBW, one of the best strikers, has much improved TDD. It's basically a question of weather she can avoid gassing if she doesn't finish Miesha (which she probably won't). Considering the magnitude of the fight, I bet she comes in shape.
It's rare that I'd be a pick 2:1 dog SU but this is an instance where I legitimately favor Nunes.
I just think it's a perfect storm of public perception being high on Miesha and a relatively unknown / under-rated fighter in Nunes being much better. Kind of a similar situation to Rousey vs Holm but without the insane hype.
First fight was "competitive" like a fight between Dodson and MM is competitive. Sure its "competitive", but Dodson/Cormier will never win imo.
The problem is, Jones has the edge everywhere. I give cormier a puncher's chance.
Cormier isn't going to magically outwrestle Jones. Its not gonna happen. Jones has clearly shown us hes at least 1 league above Cormier in wrestling, and its not gonna magically change 2 year later.
Outpointing Jones with Standup is like impossible with the 12 inch disvantage and Jone's skill level.
So Cormier has to somehow KO Jones. Cormier by TKO is +1105/-2315.
I'm def betting Jones at -280.
The only little "worry" i have is, Jones did look a bit rusty against OSP, but i think he will at least be 90% of his former self comes UFC 200.
I actually think you have very legit points for Nunes fight. This is also Women fight, so anything can happen. I will probably strongly consider Nunes.
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Floofy   Canada. Jun 21 2016 04:16. Posts 8708
On June 20 2016 23:56 soberstone wrote:
As for the Gastellum bet I really like it. I just don't see a huge edge for Hendricks anywhere. I think Gastellum has much better cardio, more output, and similar kick-boxing and handspeed in the pocket. Both have granite chins but I actually think Kelvin's may be even better.
Obv on paper Hendricks is the better wrestler but I don't think he'll have the cardio to really wrestle much with someone as strong, stalky, and as proficient a scrambler as Kelvin.
To me the fight is a pickem, so I'd just as soon bet Hendricks as a dog.
Where comes the idea Hendricks's cardio is bad? He went 10 rounds with Lawler, and literally never stopped against Brown.
Gastelum, on the other hand, if i remember correctly, often had cardio issues. I think he lost Magny fight because of his cardio.
I'm probably gonna bet Hendricks if i can get him for cheaper than -150
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iakim322   United States. Jun 21 2016 04:26. Posts 1335
Tate - Nunes is weird for me. In that I agree with a lot of the good points made in the case for Nunes. And yea I don't think there's value on Tate -250. Yet I just still think Tate will find a way to grind out an ugly win so I'm just going to pass
Agree with Floofy's comparison's of MM/Dodson for Cormier/Jones although maybe I wouldn't reach quite that far. Even if Dodson has the pound for pound better punch than Cormier has, feels like Cormier's 'puncher's chance' is a good bit better. Maybe due to MM's ridiculously technical defense...and also because if Cormier does hurt Jon with a shot, that can change how the rest of the fight plays out with Cormier having way more openings for his wrestling whereas Dodson's only real chance would've been the 5 second opportunity for a swarm right after. Still am not going to be on Cormier. I don't put much stock into Jon looking a little rusty vs OSP. Completely different styles and Jon will be that much more focused vs Cormier because of their background. And that bit of rust mighta been knocked off anyway in between OSP to now. I think I like the over if anything and will probably put a last minute not large bet on Jones
I like Edgar (might be some small natural bias driving this pick), Hunt, and Cain elsewhere. Cain will probably be my biggest bet. Might be a little bit of bias in there as well because who the hell likes Travis Browne but if Cain's healthy and in shape, don't see how it isn't a really favorable matchup for him
What a card.
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iakim322   United States. Jun 21 2016 04:35. Posts 1335
On June 20 2016 23:56 soberstone wrote:
As for the Gastellum bet I really like it. I just don't see a huge edge for Hendricks anywhere. I think Gastellum has much better cardio, more output, and similar kick-boxing and handspeed in the pocket. Both have granite chins but I actually think Kelvin's may be even better.
Obv on paper Hendricks is the better wrestler but I don't think he'll have the cardio to really wrestle much with someone as strong, stalky, and as proficient a scrambler as Kelvin.
To me the fight is a pickem, so I'd just as soon bet Hendricks as a dog.
Where comes the idea Hendricks's cardio is bad? He went 10 rounds with Lawler, and literally never stopped against Brown.
Gastelum, on the other hand, if i remember correctly, often had cardio issues. I think he lost Magny fight because of his cardio.
I'm probably gonna bet Hendricks if i can get him for cheaper than -150
Both have lingering issues with cardio related to their usually terrible weight cuts. Hendricks has proven his cardio isn't terrible but it's definitely looked shaky at times. He's been good at disguising it a bit by slowing his fights down when he feels like he has to with some well timed lay n pray or feinting his big overhand right and resetting repeatedly
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 21 2016 05:32. Posts 13050
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whamm!   Albania. Jun 21 2016 05:36. Posts 11625
I like Cormier on this one at the current odds. Clearly JBJ needs cocaina in his life, his last fight look tentative as fuck. Seems like he's less confident a fighter now. Could just be ring rust but someone who's been on coke then off it will be a different person.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 21 2016 05:43. Posts 34250
On June 21 2016 04:36 whamm! wrote:
someone who's been on coke then off it will be a different person.
lol where on earth do you get that ridiculous conclusion?
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whamm!   Albania. Jun 21 2016 06:22. Posts 11625
everybody on earth who's ever binged on that stuff. JBJ didn't just do it as some party favor you know, he really lived that coca life
Anyway we'll see in the rematch
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soberstone   United States. Jun 21 2016 07:22. Posts 2662
Hendricks cardio isn't terrible, but he fought Lawler in spurts because thats how Lawler paces fights, and Johnny definitely still slowed down in the 5th round of the second fight, which was probably damage related but was also highly inactive for 3 of the rounds.
Gastellum goes hard for 15 minutes straight. Vs. Condit Hendricks slowed down big time, in more of a Kelvin-like paced fight.
Again, don't think Hendricks has bad cardio, I just think it will be a definitive edge for Gastellum and in a very close matchup that sort of thing seems to make a huge difference a lot of the time.
All that plus the +145 points makes Kelvin an easy bet in my eyes.
If either guy KO'd the other, I wouldn't be shocked, and if it was an all out war, I'd favor Gastellum heavily going into the 3rd assuming all other things were equal.
Finally, the intangible tie-breakers go Kelvin's way as well, Hendricks did just get KO'd and is in a shakier training camp situation (I believe, unless he's back with Team Takedown)
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soberstone   United States. Jun 21 2016 07:29. Posts 2662
Also, for Zingano vs Pena - I'm all Zingano here.
I just think Pena is utter trash other than a decent (but not special) guard and being a physically strong but not technical wrestler. Striking is deplorable. Zingano isn't someone who is gonna get ragdolled or gas, and probably learned about falling into retarded submissions if you know what I mean.
She'll likely get a 2nd or 3rd round TKO.
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northsails   Bulgaria. Jun 21 2016 08:18. Posts 410
I like Nunes at +900 R1. Will probably livebet Miesha Tate if she survives. Nunes fades hard in later rounds , we have seen it already a few to many times. Tate is tough and gritty and in 5 rounder she will almost certainly take over after the 2nd round.
Love Aldo at + odds. Yes he got KO'd stiff by Conor, but Frankie is a perfect match up for him. Nobody is taking down and holding Aldo down at featherweight and when he has the length and reach advantage, He can always control the fight with his leg kicks and his jab. The fight was close the first time, when Aldo just mauled Edgar the first 2 rounds and then Frankie took over. Expect a great fight and a war here, but I favor Aldo slightly.
I like Hunt as well and as crazy as it sounds I think about playing Travis Browne vs Cain. I just think Cain is a shell of himself and Browne sucks bad , but at the same time He has a huge size advantage and is a hard guy to takedown. With his power and Cain being really hitable I can see him pulling the upset. Maybe some value there.
I don't know why everyone keeps saying that Jon Jones dominated Cormier in the 1st fight. He clearly won the fight but that was it, imo. Rounds were close and DC had his moments, before fading in the later rounds. Also he has gained a lot of experience after his fights with Rumble and Gus , while JJ has been out for a year, becoming a powerlifter and did not look very stellar against OSP. I really think there is big value at Cormier and I expect just before the fight his line to go over +300. Def will be stomping that.
Can't wait for that card. Incredible.
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whamm!   Albania. Jun 21 2016 13:11. Posts 11625
Thanks everyone for their opinions, I am going to evaluate my possible bets. Probably going to make half of them.
- About Cormier and Jones, I see Cormier looking better everytime and Jones looked not as good as always in his last fight (maybe for the time out + his life style).
- I think Jose Aldo will win cause his stand up is superior and he is very difficult to take down, I think this is going to be similar to the first fight.
- About Tate and Nunez, if Tate wouldnt won the belt the odds will be different she is not that superior to Nunes IMO.
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 21 2016 15:22. Posts 9634
On June 21 2016 05:22 whamm! wrote:
everybody on earth who's ever binged on that stuff. JBJ didn't just do it as some party favor you know, he really lived that coca life
Are you basing that on actual facts or just stating it as one so its easier to validate your arguments ?
You shouldn't make conclusions about a bet based on assumptions, especially where the edges are slight.
I could easily see Cormier beating Jones if JBJ fights like he did vs OSP though.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 21 2016 21:35. Posts 13050
Well-known high stakes sports bettor, Vegas Dave, is betting $1mil on Miesha Tate at 2-1.
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impact69   Mexico. Jun 21 2016 23:21. Posts 307
On June 21 2016 20:35 PuertoRican wrote:
Well-known high stakes sports bettor, Vegas Dave, is betting $1mil on Miesha Tate at 2-1.
Bisping over Rockhold? mmmm
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 22 2016 09:34. Posts 34250
No tickets uploaded about his alledged Bisping bet, so I call BS.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 22 2016 09:35. Posts 34250
On June 21 2016 05:22 whamm! wrote:
everybody on earth who's ever binged on that stuff. JBJ didn't just do it as some party favor you know, he really lived that coca life
Anyway we'll see in the rematch
Have you even tried coke? how do you know how much coke Jones did?
On June 21 2016 05:22 whamm! wrote:
everybody on earth who's ever binged on that stuff. JBJ didn't just do it as some party favor you know, he really lived that coca life
Anyway we'll see in the rematch
Have you even tried coke? how do you know how much coke Jones did?
you are just talking out of your ass here
yes. they call him the vacuum cleaner. whenever he's around people hide their shit because he'll make sure your shit gets cleaned.
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whamm!   Albania. Jun 22 2016 17:51. Posts 11625
you will see once they fight, the intangibles will show and prove my point. if i had stars id be willing to bet on my theory given the odds
coke for jbj is what side pussy was for tiger woods lol. once i saw him fight OSP like that, he was a totally different guy not willing to take risks
Cormier hasn't lost his mojo after his loss, so JBJ better be ready for a five round scrap with none of that OSP performance or else he'll get manhandled like everyone else
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 22 2016 22:35. Posts 9634
You do realize he did not fight on coke in his previous matches right ? And that there is no physical addiction to cocaine. He could potentially have psychological issues with MMA as a whole if he has it as a connection cocaine-MMA.
As a matter of a fact, fighting should be something he seeks due to the adrenaline rush
That being said yes he might be tentative and be psychologically weak, but it wont be, cause of the lack of cocaine. It all seems somewhat natural when put in perspective now. He screwed up big, he got a new chance, there was a lot on the line for Jones at that OSP fight, one loss and everything he was building falls apart instantly, plus he fucked up right before the fight with that speeding issue. Woulda been quite the downfall. He s obviously not the psychopath he projects to be, meaning he has tons of uncertainties and obviously he needed time to adjust considering his situation .
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drone666   Brasil. Jun 23 2016 01:57. Posts 1821
coke is like steroids, everyone does but nobody talks about it
even my mates at gym they try to hide from me that they use steroids lol
I had some friends that started selling coke and they told me 29808876 persons I knew and never imagined they do coke, lol, even my doctor at the time, its much more common than people think and its not everyone that does is addicted or go nuts after using a few times
Dont listen to anything I say
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Floofy   Canada. Jun 23 2016 05:09. Posts 8708
One important thing to consider about the Jones/Cormier fight, is BJM will be the ref. This is probably going to hurt JBJ's game a lot. He really won't let Jones let his hands open...
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 23 2016 19:40. Posts 13050
On June 23 2016 04:09 Floofy wrote:
One important thing to consider about the Jones/Cormier fight, is BJM will be the ref. This is probably going to hurt JBJ's game a lot. He really won't let Jones let his hands open...
Jones/DC to be stopped because of an eye poke +275.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 24 2016 02:09. Posts 7499
Cormier vs Jones = hard fight to call. Jones looked horrible in his last fight imo, and their first fight was close enough that I think if Jones isn't at his best Cormier will probably beat him. People say Jones was just rusty which is possible, but he was only out a lil over a year and he was never injured or rehabbing, he was training the whole time.
So 100% Jones I think the odds are good, but if his mental game is off I think it's really close.
Lesnar vs Hunt = I'm surprised everyones dumping money on Hunt. Do you really think he can stop a lesnar double? Hunt has faced 1 good wrestler in the UFC and it was Stipe, who put a horrible mauling on him. Lesnar has been retired and old, but the dudes wrestling is still probably great. Then again, look how bad Fedor looked.
Frankie vs Aldo = Their first fight was really close, and it was Frankies first cut to 145. Since then I think Frankie has got much better and Aldo has declined. Got Frankie here.
Cain vs Browne = Cain probably takes him down and mauls him. Wouldn't be too surprised if Travis lands something big and tko's him though.
Hendricks vs Gastelum = Hendricks should probably beat him in a semi competitive decision.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 24 2016 02:16. Posts 7499
Not sure why everyone is so down on Hendricks. He easily should of beat Robbie in their 2nd fight. Yes he looked bad against Wonderboy, but Wonderboy looks far and away the best fighter at WW. I think Wonderboy will make Robbie look like an amateur as well.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 24 2016 02:24. Posts 7499
On June 23 2016 04:09 Floofy wrote:
One important thing to consider about the Jones/Cormier fight, is BJM will be the ref. This is probably going to hurt JBJ's game a lot. He really won't let Jones let his hands open...
Damn great rpoint. I was so pumped BJM was kept warning Elias for pawing with his hand open. I can definitely see BJM taking a point from Jon if he does it too much.
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Floofy   Canada. Jun 24 2016 03:46. Posts 8708
On June 24 2016 01:16 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Not sure why everyone is so down on Hendricks. He easily should of beat Robbie in their 2nd fight. Yes he looked bad against Wonderboy, but Wonderboy looks far and away the best fighter at WW. I think Wonderboy will make Robbie look like an amateur as well.
I used to think like you, and then i read Firas Zahabi's analysis and i kinda changed my mind.
Essentially what he said is, Hendricks was A LOT smaller when he fought WOnderboy, than when he fought GSP.
Hendricks was probably the heaviest WW, and with the IV4 ban, he had to get smaller.
But being smaller also means being weaker...
Zahabi is essentially saying that, if the Hendricks who fought Wonderboy shows up, Gastlelum should even have the egde in wrestling.
On the other hand, if the Prime Hendricks shows up, then he should have the edge.
So essentially the correct play should be to wait for weight ins and see how Hendricks looks.
Zahabi also hinted that Hendricks most likely was on peds (and we know GSP claimed that many times too), and right now, everything leads to believe its very possible he was.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 24 2016 11:32. Posts 34250
On June 24 2016 01:09 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Cormier vs Jones = hard fight to call. Jones looked horrible in his last fight imo, and their first fight was close enough that I think if Jones isn't at his best Cormier will probably beat him. People say Jones was just rusty which is possible, but he was only out a lil over a year and he was never injured or rehabbing, he was training the whole time.
So 100% Jones I think the odds are good, but if his mental game is off I think it's really close.
Lesnar vs Hunt = I'm surprised everyones dumping money on Hunt. Do you really think he can stop a lesnar double? Hunt has faced 1 good wrestler in the UFC and it was Stipe, who put a horrible mauling on him. Lesnar has been retired and old, but the dudes wrestling is still probably great. Then again, look how bad Fedor looked.
Frankie vs Aldo = Their first fight was really close, and it was Frankies first cut to 145. Since then I think Frankie has got much better and Aldo has declined. Got Frankie here.
Cain vs Browne = Cain probably takes him down and mauls him. Wouldn't be too surprised if Travis lands something big and tko's him though.
Hendricks vs Gastelum = Hendricks should probably beat him in a semi competitive decision.
Even if Lesnar takes him down Mark Hunt remains being very dangerous when tired/hurt, he spends no energy at all he doesnt even block just shows the forehad against punches and looks for the left hook and Lesnar just needs one of those to crawl into a ball, also Lesnar poses no striking threat whatsoever to Hunt, so he can stand very heavy hands down making it very hard for Lesnar to take him down
soberstone   United States. Jun 24 2016 18:16. Posts 2662
On June 24 2016 17:08 lucky331 wrote:
which sportsbook offers the most mma propbets?
5-Dimes is good
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 24 2016 18:31. Posts 13050
On June 23 2016 21:31 PuertoRican wrote:
^ Posted on June 4, 2016. (notice the boot on Assuncao's foot)
Assuncao suffered a broken ankle at the end of 2014 which had trouble healing, then he went under the knife to fix it. In a Sherdog interview back in January 2016, Assuncao mentioned his doctor has yet to clear him, but expects to be cleared in 5-6 months (around June 2016).
It makes you wonder why he's wearing a cast on his previously injured foot one month before he's scheduled to fight.
The picture Erick Silva posted is old. Here is the original picture and date:
Basically, Erick Silva originally uploaded this picture in July 2015. What was posted earlier this month was a re-upload, since he wants to hype up his friend who is fighting soon, and will most likely get a title shot if he wins.
So, Assuncao is healthy like we originally expected him to be.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 24 2016 21:54. Posts 7499
On June 24 2016 01:16 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Not sure why everyone is so down on Hendricks. He easily should of beat Robbie in their 2nd fight. Yes he looked bad against Wonderboy, but Wonderboy looks far and away the best fighter at WW. I think Wonderboy will make Robbie look like an amateur as well.
I used to think like you, and then i read Firas Zahabi's analysis and i kinda changed my mind.
Essentially what he said is, Hendricks was A LOT smaller when he fought WOnderboy, than when he fought GSP.
Hendricks was probably the heaviest WW, and with the IV4 ban, he had to get smaller.
But being smaller also means being weaker...
Zahabi is essentially saying that, if the Hendricks who fought Wonderboy shows up, Gastlelum should even have the egde in wrestling.
On the other hand, if the Prime Hendricks shows up, then he should have the edge.
So essentially the correct play should be to wait for weight ins and see how Hendricks looks.
Zahabi also hinted that Hendricks most likely was on peds (and we know GSP claimed that many times too), and right now, everything leads to believe its very possible he was.
I think that fight was more of a result of Hendricks not being able to cut off and corner Wonderboy than it was him not being strong enough. I mean, he was only able to get his hands on him once. But maybe if he was bigger he would be able to take him down that one time, who knows. But lets remember that Wonderboy also stuffed all of Rorys takedowns and even took Rory down once, so Wonderboys TDD is legit super good at this point.
I do think it's possible Hendricks is coming off the sauce though.
But yea Hendricks didn't really have the footwork, speed or head movement to beat Wonderboy. He was just eating shots at range all day and couldn't catch him. Don't think him being bigger would of changed that much. But then again maybe he would of completed that takedown.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 24 2016 22:25. Posts 7499
On June 24 2016 01:09 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Cormier vs Jones = hard fight to call. Jones looked horrible in his last fight imo, and their first fight was close enough that I think if Jones isn't at his best Cormier will probably beat him. People say Jones was just rusty which is possible, but he was only out a lil over a year and he was never injured or rehabbing, he was training the whole time.
So 100% Jones I think the odds are good, but if his mental game is off I think it's really close.
Lesnar vs Hunt = I'm surprised everyones dumping money on Hunt. Do you really think he can stop a lesnar double? Hunt has faced 1 good wrestler in the UFC and it was Stipe, who put a horrible mauling on him. Lesnar has been retired and old, but the dudes wrestling is still probably great. Then again, look how bad Fedor looked.
Frankie vs Aldo = Their first fight was really close, and it was Frankies first cut to 145. Since then I think Frankie has got much better and Aldo has declined. Got Frankie here.
Cain vs Browne = Cain probably takes him down and mauls him. Wouldn't be too surprised if Travis lands something big and tko's him though.
Hendricks vs Gastelum = Hendricks should probably beat him in a semi competitive decision.
Even if Lesnar takes him down Mark Hunt remains being very dangerous when tired/hurt, he spends no energy at all he doesnt even block just shows the forehad against punches and looks for the left hook and Lesnar just needs one of those to crawl into a ball, also Lesnar poses no striking threat whatsoever to Hunt, so he can stand very heavy hands down making it very hard for Lesnar to take him down
I agree, but lets remember how much of an absolute monster Brock is on top of you. His BJJ looked great once on top, and he fucked dropped insane bombs as well. Hunts chin is obviously great but he's been tko'd 3 times. Albeit after taking a lot of damage from JDS and Stipe.
I'll just file this under I have no idea. Really depends on what form Brock is in. If he is anything like he was before though I'd have him as the favorite for sure.
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Floofy   Canada. Jun 25 2016 04:41. Posts 8708
On June 24 2016 01:16 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Not sure why everyone is so down on Hendricks. He easily should of beat Robbie in their 2nd fight. Yes he looked bad against Wonderboy, but Wonderboy looks far and away the best fighter at WW. I think Wonderboy will make Robbie look like an amateur as well.
I used to think like you, and then i read Firas Zahabi's analysis and i kinda changed my mind.
Essentially what he said is, Hendricks was A LOT smaller when he fought WOnderboy, than when he fought GSP.
Hendricks was probably the heaviest WW, and with the IV4 ban, he had to get smaller.
But being smaller also means being weaker...
Zahabi is essentially saying that, if the Hendricks who fought Wonderboy shows up, Gastlelum should even have the egde in wrestling.
On the other hand, if the Prime Hendricks shows up, then he should have the edge.
So essentially the correct play should be to wait for weight ins and see how Hendricks looks.
Zahabi also hinted that Hendricks most likely was on peds (and we know GSP claimed that many times too), and right now, everything leads to believe its very possible he was.
I think that fight was more of a result of Hendricks not being able to cut off and corner Wonderboy than it was him not being strong enough. I mean, he was only able to get his hands on him once. But maybe if he was bigger he would be able to take him down that one time, who knows. But lets remember that Wonderboy also stuffed all of Rorys takedowns and even took Rory down once, so Wonderboys TDD is legit super good at this point.
I do think it's possible Hendricks is coming off the sauce though.
But yea Hendricks didn't really have the footwork, speed or head movement to beat Wonderboy. He was just eating shots at range all day and couldn't catch him. Don't think him being bigger would of changed that much. But then again maybe he would of completed that takedown.
I never said Prime Hendricks would have beaten Wonderboy.
I think Wonderboy would have won regardless.
I'm just stating that Hendricks was clearly smaller than in his GSP fight. And being smaller does mean he was weaker.
Essentially my point (brought by Zahabi), is that Prime hendricks at -160 is a good bet against Gastlelum. But the Hendricks who fought Wonderboy would probably not be a favorite against Gastelum.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 28 2016 23:52. Posts 13050
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northsails   Bulgaria. Jun 29 2016 08:08. Posts 410
Zahabi seems very confident that Brock is going to demolish Hunto. Interesting.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 30 2016 02:31. Posts 13050
On June 29 2016 07:08 northsails wrote:
Zahabi seems very confident that Brock is going to demolish Hunto. Interesting.
AFAIK, Firas Zahabi is never wrong in the breakdowns he does for UFC fights, aside from picking Rory to win (I don't remember if he officially picked Rory in his video, but he thought training with Raymond Daniels would be enough to handle Wonderboy's style).
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goose58   United States. Jun 30 2016 07:42. Posts 871
Brock has so much potential, we've seen it, he is quite the specimen. Hunt is great but I feel like he's reached his pinnacle or is near it. It's the age old question, does size and athleticism beat skill? Can't wait for this card..
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 30 2016 20:32. Posts 7499
On June 29 2016 07:08 northsails wrote:
Zahabi seems very confident that Brock is going to demolish Hunto. Interesting.
Reads my posts ldo.
I just don't see how Hunto can stop the double. Only shot is he can survive long enough of a beat that brock gasses, or he nails him with an uppercut coming in.
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Yeah after that video Im convinced too... and its not like Hunt can be absurdly anchored to the ground because Brock has a ridiculous reach advantage and can just jab with those huge firsts forcing hunt to open up
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 02 2016 07:59. Posts 13050
Anyone have any photos of Brock 2016? If he looks all saggy and soft, would this affect his athleticism? He is probably not the same Brock that fought in the UFC, do people really think he is an "improved" fighter all of a sudden? If so why?
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 03 2016 06:56. Posts 13050
On July 02 2016 22:30 jvilla777 wrote:
Anyone have any photos of Brock 2016? If he looks all saggy and soft, would this affect his athleticism? He is probably not the same Brock that fought in the UFC, do people really think he is an "improved" fighter all of a sudden? If so why?
Posted by someone else: "Lesnar admitted to not having a full training camp and initially wanting to fight at UFC 205."
During Firas' breakdown on Hunt/Lesnar, he said he expects Lesnar not to have improved much at all in MMA skill since he has been busy with other stuff, and cardio might be an issue if he can't win in R1, but he still thinks Lesnar wins 70% of the time.
We'll know more by Tuesday, which is when Brock will likely arrive in Las Vegas. UFC always has a press conference the day b4 weigh-ins, which is on Thursday. So we'll be able to see Brock during that time, followed by UFC FN 90 later that day.
This coming week is gonna be so packed with UFC stuff. After UFC 200, there's another UFC event a few days later. There's 4 UFC cards in 6 days... xD
It's not like Brock has just been partying though. Wouldn't you need pretty damn good conditioning to do the WWE stuff?
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 04 2016 01:14. Posts 13050
On July 03 2016 17:58 Nazgul wrote:
It's not like Brock has just been partying though. Wouldn't you need pretty damn good conditioning to do the WWE stuff?
WWE cardio isn't like MMA cardio.
In WWE, they take a lot of breaks and rest throughout the match, and they're not getting kicked in the body and punched in the face like in MMA. Also, Brock doesn't wrestle much throughout the year in the WWE, because he's a massive star and makes a ton of money -- I'm pretty sure he doesn't have more than 10 WWE matches per year, at least in 2015/2016.
PuertoRican   United States. Jul 05 2016 17:37. Posts 13050
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CamilaPunt   Brasil. Jul 05 2016 17:52. Posts 2422
oh man more of misha in bikini please :D
curious what impact cormier training with a healthy velasquez will have on the fight
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 05 2016 21:04. Posts 7499
On July 03 2016 17:58 Nazgul wrote:
It's not like Brock has just been partying though. Wouldn't you need pretty damn good conditioning to do the WWE stuff?
He looks to be in great shape. iirc Brock was known for doing some long cardio intensive WWE matches back in the day and his cardio always looked good for a HW in MMA. I think his cardio will be fine, especially since most of his time will be spent in top position which isn't that taxing, and he shouldn't have to fight really hard for takedowns either.
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On July 05 2016 16:52 CamilaPunt wrote:
oh man more of misha in bikini please :D
curious what impact cormier training with a healthy velasquez will have on the fight
Velasquez fights so different than Jones I dont think it should have a big effect, Velasquez is very good at chaining wrestling with boxing and Jones never does that.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 05 2016 22:45. Posts 7499
On July 05 2016 16:52 CamilaPunt wrote:
oh man more of misha in bikini please :D
curious what impact cormier training with a healthy velasquez will have on the fight
Velasquez fights so different than Jones I dont think it should have a big effect, Velasquez is very good at chaining wrestling with boxing and Jones never does that.
The sparring could up his cardio and tenacity. Even if it isn't style specific getting pushed to the limit by somebody really good should help.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 05 2016 23:58. Posts 13050
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The Tactical Guide to UFC 200: Jones versus Cormier
On July 05 2016 16:52 CamilaPunt wrote:
oh man more of misha in bikini please :D
curious what impact cormier training with a healthy velasquez will have on the fight
Velasquez fights so different than Jones I dont think it should have a big effect, Velasquez is very good at chaining wrestling with boxing and Jones never does that.
The sparring could up his cardio and tenacity. Even if it isn't style specific getting pushed to the limit by somebody really good should help.
But would Velazques who has been recovering from injuries and surgeries really push it in sparring? if so its probably not smart
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 06 2016 09:12. Posts 7499
On July 05 2016 16:52 CamilaPunt wrote:
oh man more of misha in bikini please :D
curious what impact cormier training with a healthy velasquez will have on the fight
Velasquez fights so different than Jones I dont think it should have a big effect, Velasquez is very good at chaining wrestling with boxing and Jones never does that.
The sparring could up his cardio and tenacity. Even if it isn't style specific getting pushed to the limit by somebody really good should help.
But would Velazques who has been recovering from injuries and surgeries really push it in sparring? if so its probably not smart
I mean he's fighting a few hours before Cormier so I'd think so.
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On July 05 2016 16:52 CamilaPunt wrote:
oh man more of misha in bikini please :D
curious what impact cormier training with a healthy velasquez will have on the fight
Velasquez fights so different than Jones I dont think it should have a big effect, Velasquez is very good at chaining wrestling with boxing and Jones never does that.
The sparring could up his cardio and tenacity. Even if it isn't style specific getting pushed to the limit by somebody really good should help.
But would Velazques who has been recovering from injuries and surgeries really push it in sparring? if so its probably not smart
I mean he's fighting a few hours before Cormier so I'd think so.
I guess we will see in Cains fight how good of a sparring partner he was.
BTW I think the upset of the card will be Travis Browne.... go bet on him thank me later
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soberstone   United States. Jul 07 2016 04:52. Posts 2662
Jones pops hot.
GG
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 07 2016 05:27. Posts 13050
On July 07 2016 03:52 soberstone wrote:
Jones pops hot.
LOL! People will still booo Cormier over Jones. He wanted to go in history and have a legacy. He will have one but it will go next to other gifted athletes who could have been GOAT but could not handle themself.
Are there any bets on Bellator signing Johns now?
Didn't Jones sponsor dropped him when he did the hit and run or when he popped for Cocaine? With the UFC being tied up with Reebok, its a new situation. He is indeed a huge draw but now Reebok have to agree to put his logo on a guy who popped for cocaine, did a hit and run and now potentially popped for something else. It does not show a good example at all. Obviously I would be surprise they would let him go but I am pretty sure there will be some hard choices to be made in the near future.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 07 2016 06:19. Posts 7499
On July 07 2016 04:55 Baalim wrote:
the UFC wont let Jones go to bellator, he is a huge draw.
FFS... MMA on roids was much more fun :<
Yea been saying USADA is horrible for the sport .
Jones finna have a big asterisk next to his name most likely. Test was a month out from the fight so can't be recreational drug or diuretic. Gotta be a legit PED,
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I dont think he looked mediocre, I think he fought cautious against a very dangerous ranked #6 guy in his return fight, OSP is no joke, fight opposite stance than DC and was on short notice, I think Jon fought smart and dominated him badly, I mean ask Rockhold what happens when you dont take your opponent seriously.
Anyway thats old news, but indeed USADA has been awful for the sport, all the brazilians now suck, Ubereem is tiny, Bisping is welter champ...
Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 07 2016 07:23. Posts 7499
On July 07 2016 06:05 Baalim wrote:
I dont think he looked mediocre, I think he fought cautious against a very dangerous ranked #6 guy in his return fight, OSP is no joke, fight opposite stance than DC and was on short notice, I think Jon fought smart and dominated him badly, I mean ask Rockhold what happens when you dont take your opponent seriously.
Anyway thats old news, but indeed USADA has been awful for the sport, all the brazilians now suck, Ubereem is tiny, Bisping is welter champ...
You crazy. OSP is #6 because LHW is shallow as fuck. OSP got absolutely destroyed by Glover and Bader, especially in the grappling. Bader took him down 9 times. Jones couldn't take him down once in the first three rounds, and was only able to do so after 2 weeks OSP gassed and had a broken arm. Even after the broken arm Jones couldn't finish him. Rounds 1 & 2 were even fairly close rounds with them basically being almost dead even in strikes. And OSP hit him with some good shots. Jones just barely edged those rounds.
I mean, even Jones said he thought his performance was really bad.
Cormier, Gus, AJ, even bader would of absolutely destroyed that 2 weeks OSP.
Also OSP is more like #8
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gonna be the "tainted supplement" reasoning I would assume
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 07 2016 10:35. Posts 7499
On July 07 2016 07:08 northsails wrote:
LOL, UFC will feel great now about their decision to pull Diaz - Mcgregor over a press conference.
Gotta feel bad for DC. He is losing a huge payday.
At the end of the day UFC 200 is just a number. They still got Lesnar and a pretty good card and Conor vs Nate 2 is still happening 2 months later. Plus they needed to send a message, that just because you get popular doesn't mean you get to start calling shots. That's way more valuable than Conor vs Nate 2 being delayed 2 months.
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He sucked vs OSP , DC could probably murder his ass if they fought without PEDS
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 07 2016 17:29. Posts 13050
I believe Jon Jones is innocent, in that I don't think he knowingly took any performance enhancing drugs. I assume it's a tainted supplement like he mentioned.
In the end, I don't really care if people are using PEDs and steroids, I just want to see them fight.
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TimDawg   United States. Jul 07 2016 17:56. Posts 10197
Everything about JBJ oozes fakeness and BS to me
I have a hard time taking anything he said in that press conference as sincere
online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 07 2016 19:47. Posts 7499
On July 07 2016 16:56 TimDawg wrote:
Everything about JBJ oozes fakeness and BS to me
I have a hard time taking anything he said in that press conference as sincere
This. Your read is terrible Puerto lol.
Chael: Jones, are you denying taking the substance you're accused of, or are you denying knowing it was on the ban list?
Jones: * ugly cry face* ..... Both
lmao
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 07 2016 20:40. Posts 13050
On July 07 2016 16:56 TimDawg wrote:
Everything about JBJ oozes fakeness and BS to me
I have a hard time taking anything he said in that press conference as sincere
Even though JBJ s the only one I cheer for in any fighting sports I feel the same way.
It does not make any sense for him to do such thing, since it can practically end his career, but neither did all of the previous shit.
Hope they do publish what the substance was
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 07 2016 23:09. Posts 7499
Well he probably did it his entire career ( his test numbers against Cormier were absolutely ridiculous and everyone assumed he was on steroids then, but there was no 100% proof. ) It's not like he's been clean his entire career and decided to just dope for this fight against a guy he already beat.
And they will publish them, it might just take awhile. USADA goes through a ton of procedure. I think it took like 2 months before we learned what Yoel got busted for.
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yeap its confirmed, Cormier vs Silva. I want silva to win but this is a tough fight for him.
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Big_Rob_isback   United States. Jul 07 2016 23:20. Posts 211
JBJ's brothers are both in the NFL. He probably just takes what they are taking, except ufc is testing methods are harder to evade. I mean... you guys all know the nfl is full of juicers right?
I did not hear the guy weighing say Hendick's weight. Did they show his failed attempt and not his successful one?
Ok just watched the ''staged'' weight in. He was 0.25pound too heavy and gives 25% of his money. He will never get a title shot at 170. He better move at 185 and start calling Bisping out
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 03:26. Posts 13050
USADA: Jon Jones ‘B’ sample also comes back positive for banned substance
So it took them like a month to run sample A, and then it took 2 days and they had the result of B. I mean they are probably using a GC and or GCMS which does not take long to run at all if it's already calibrated. UFC must be pissed for them to wait that long for sample ''A''
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 03:53. Posts 13050
On July 09 2016 02:48 Baalim wrote:
a card with rough weight cuts... and with no IV available... time to bet against them if you were undecided
Hendricks was the only person with the clear rough weight cut.
They all weighed in around 6 hours earlier than normal, so they have all that extra time to re-hydrate. You can choose to weigh-in during the regular time of 4pm, but then your body will be fucked from being drained for so long, which is why Hendricks missed weight my 1/4 pound, and chose not to give up 20% of his purse so he wouldn't have to spend 6 hours being drained for the 2nd weigh-in at 4pm.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 14:38. Posts 13050
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Raidern   Brasil. Jul 09 2016 15:02. Posts 4243
I fear for silva. He may be the first case of getting murdered in the Octagon. Even prime silva would have a hard time dealing with Cormier. Now his only chance is hitting a lucky punch at Cormier's jaw in a takedown attempt. To make it worse I don't think he will even be able to make it look competitive/entertaining for the first couple of minutes because I'm sure Cormier will be at his face the whole time and Silva will be on his back in less than 30s.
I am really tempted on betting on Silva and dont know why, I have the strange feeling he is going to KO Cormier. I may bet just 5 dollars on Silva by KO (+700).
On July 09 2016 20:14 alejandicto wrote:
I am really tempted on betting on Silva and dont know why, I have the strange feeling he is going to KO Cormier. I may bet just 5 dollars on Silva by KO (+700).
I have the same feeling.. but im betting cormier anyways.. since its the right thing to do i guess
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 21:42. Posts 13050
Not only is it a PPV card, but it's also a special event.
There will most likely be 3 upsets on this card. I have no idea who the upsets will be, but I always do terrible during PPV cards, and I don't expect today to be any different.
Hopefully the card delivers in terms of entertainment value.
PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 22:05. Posts 13050
Do you guys want to get a voice-chat going on Skype for this event? At the moment, there's Floofy and I. If there's at least 4 of us, then we can set it up.
It might be beneficial for those of you who are betting as each fight goes on, and even live betting.
Post in this thread if you want to join. I'll check this thread again in 1 hour, which is 25 minutes before the prelims starts.
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TheHuHu3   United States. Jul 09 2016 23:04. Posts 5544
What are the good bets, mates?
TheHuHu4 coming soon :)
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 23:31. Posts 13050
USADA will not confirm what substance or substances Jones tested for unless Jones or his team makes that information public first. UFC president Dana White said this week on FS1 that Jones popped for two separate banned agents.
i have a feeling jones could be hoovering shit up his nose again.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 10 2016 00:18. Posts 13050
Great performance by Mousasi. He would've done the same thing to Uriah Hall if he didn't duck into Hall's spinning low kick in R2.
USADA will not confirm what substance or substances Jones tested for unless Jones or his team makes that information public first. UFC president Dana White said this week on FS1 that Jones popped for two separate banned agents.
i have a feeling jones could be hoovering shit up his nose again.
it would be way better for his image if it was cocaine and the suspension would be shorter too
USADA will not confirm what substance or substances Jones tested for unless Jones or his team makes that information public first. UFC president Dana White said this week on FS1 that Jones popped for two separate banned agents.
i have a feeling jones could be hoovering shit up his nose again.
I forgot the exact wording, but this test was for PEDs, not for recreational drugs like marijuana and cocaine.
Since Jones failed both samples, he is basically fucked. He'll get a 2-year ban, unless the commission goes easy on him.
Sage is not that good, I almost bet on him but regret on the last moment, even if he wins it wouldnt be a Ev+ bet. BTW what the fuck with the yellow canvas I think its to highlight the brands but it doesnt look good imo.
i mean it did seem dc was hurt there at the end. he then hold on to silva for the remaining seconds... if thats earlier in the round who knows...
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Raidern   Brasil. Jul 10 2016 05:07. Posts 4243
It looked pretty obvious to me that dc allowed Silva to trade for a while. Kinda sad to watch Silva getting old, je was so fucking entertaining to watch (despite being an idiot)
Aldo glad Aldo won. He looked gunshy and hesitating but it was expected after the mcg fight.
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Big_Rob_isback   United States. Jul 10 2016 05:07. Posts 211
I wonder if they did something like 8 3 minute rounds. I bet it would actually have been a legitimate fight
If Rogan leaves then the UFC is probably for Sale. The only guy left here worth watching is Conor Nate, Welterweight division is also great with Wonderboy prospect
Miocic - wtf
Cormier - cleaned the division already
Michael fucking Bisping -
Lawler - next to conor, this division is the only one worth talking about
Alvarez - exciting but not really, brawler/wrestler , El Cucuy going to beat him for sure
Conor -
Cruz - technical, boring as shit, another decision machine
Midget div champ, some black dude
Tate - another temporary champ
Holm - "
Zingano - lost mojo
Ronda - lost mojo
JJ but nobody can stop her at straweight
Sage Northard has disappointed potential fans
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traxamillion   United States. Jul 10 2016 05:10. Posts 10468
nate a G
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traxamillion   United States. Jul 10 2016 05:26. Posts 10468
brock too big; had a feeling this line was messed up and shoulda been heavy on brock. instead i let an old hunt bet ride. oops
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Raidern   Brasil. Jul 10 2016 05:31. Posts 4243
Unreal that someone as huge as Brock is afraid of getting hit (considering hes a fighter)
Brocks seems to miss the WWE now, he's taken some hits off Hunt
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traxamillion   United States. Jul 10 2016 05:32. Posts 10468
cmon in this rd 3 hunt!
could even win a decision after that dud of a 2nd
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traxamillion   United States. Jul 10 2016 05:34. Posts 10468
GG nt hunt.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 10 2016 05:38. Posts 13050
I can't believe Lesnar vs. Hunt was so fucking retarded............................. fsgfsgsdfgsdfg
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traxamillion   United States. Jul 10 2016 05:39. Posts 10468
that actually wasnt surprising at all, i just like hunt since pride and let it ride hoping he would catch brock with something, no reason for hunt to be a -160 fav there tho
PuertoRican   United States. Jul 10 2016 06:26. Posts 13050
Hunt losing cost me from scoring big tonight on DraftKings. I had several teams that had 4 winners and needed him.
I invested $50, won $79, and profited +$29.
I mean, this was one of the rare PPV events I actually profited from, so I guess I shouldn't be mad, but god damn... I still can't cash big on these fucking PPV cards...
^ does that include PPV money? I think Lesnar picked Hunt because he planned to go jits the whole time, we got honeydicked into thinking this would be a violent brawl haha
On July 10 2016 13:00 whamm! wrote:
^ does that include PPV money? I think Lesnar picked Hunt because he planned to go jits the whole time, we got honeydicked into thinking this would be a violent brawl haha
what? even Lesnar kept saying Hunt wanted to stand and he wanted to take it to the ground, nobody expected Lesnar to exchange punches thats retarded
On July 10 2016 21:27 impact69 wrote:
when does the UFC announces the money they paid the fighters?
just google it, the official data s announced.
I remember Lesnar - 2.5million, Hunt - 700k$ and the others werent even close. Pure joke unless thats pure purse and they dont take anything out of the PPV, which would even things out, but its not like we ll know.
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soberstone   United States. Jul 11 2016 03:50. Posts 2662
On July 10 2016 21:27 impact69 wrote:
when does the UFC announces the money they paid the fighters?
just google it, the official data s announced.
I remember Lesnar - 2.5million, Hunt - 700k$ and the others werent even close. Pure joke unless thats pure purse and they dont take anything out of the PPV, which would even things out, but its not like we ll know.
Most of the money the top fighters (champions, former champions, big draws) get is in the form of PPV pts and bonuses. ESPN's reporter expected Lesnar would walk away with over 10 mil when all was said and done.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 11 2016 20:50. Posts 13050
On July 10 2016 21:27 impact69 wrote:
when does the UFC announces the money they paid the fighters?
I mean... ...it was obvious he was juicing. He looked in better shape than his previous UFC run when he was champion. The only thing that stings/hurts is that I would've won a lot of money on DraftKings if Hunt won ITD.
LOL the UFC is finished that's whey Dana and co. sold it. I'm expecting Alvarez, Aldo, GSP and Mcgregor to get popped eventually after realizing everyone IS on some form of PEDS. Those who don't arent even in the top 5 and that's the reason why. USADA will kill the sport's crowd drawers and we'll be left with champions like Bisiping. Chael talks like that's what's been happening pre-USADA
At least he didnt call Jon Jones unprofessional for his PED test... OHH WAIT
What a fucking joker and flexing his arms in the megan olivi interview... ohh boy
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 16 2016 04:08. Posts 13050
Mark Hunt asks for half of Brock Lesnar's purse or to be released from the UFC