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Garfed   Malta. Aug 27 2015 20:46. Posts 4818

Remmeber the gif posted some time ago in ROFL thread?



Turns out the guy has a friend, and they both are f*$@ up in their heads :D




More of his videos:
https://www.youtube.com/user/OlegCricket/videos

and his instagram (surprise, instagram actually has some interesting pics, never thought I would say that):
https://instagram.com/olegcricket/

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LikeASet   United States. Aug 27 2015 20:55. Posts 2113

Should be able to do whatever he wants as long as there are no pedestrians within the range where he can fall. Nonetheless what he's doing is so stupid in my opinion.


Trav94   Canada. Aug 27 2015 21:26. Posts 1785

I had a difficult time watching that.


ggplz   Sweden. Aug 27 2015 21:43. Posts 16784

Not giving that dude any views, fkin stupid

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

YoMeR   United States. Aug 27 2015 22:46. Posts 12435

yea him risking people below him is dumb but damn that's some crazy shit he's doing.

eZ Life. 

k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 27 2015 22:58. Posts 3476

I can't even watch that video., terrifying

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

Bigbobm   United States. Aug 28 2015 01:15. Posts 5511

i think russia needs some arcades or movie theaters. they have a really twisted idea of what is fun.

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

NewbSaibot   United States. Aug 28 2015 02:17. Posts 4943

I had to put my chips down due to my stomach sinking watching this guy

bye now 

TimDawg    United States. Aug 28 2015 05:02. Posts 10197

attention whoring douche that will in all likelihood die one day

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 28 2015 06:00. Posts 20070


  On August 28 2015 00:15 Bigbobm wrote:
i think russia needs some arcades or movie theaters. they have a really twisted idea of what is fun.



if the choice is between them doing this or flooding the dota 2 servers, then we need more buildings IMO

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

lucky331   . Aug 28 2015 06:47. Posts 1124


  On August 27 2015 21:58 k4ir0s wrote:
I can't even watch that video., terrifying



Yup. I was like "Oh man.. FUCK.. " and kept looking away.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 28 2015 09:55. Posts 8648

even though these guys are stupid assholes, i have to admit there's a part of their attitude in doing this that i find inspiring.

Truck-Crash Life 

lebowski   Greece. Aug 28 2015 10:58. Posts 9205

such balls omg

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Aug 28 2015 13:28. Posts 6374

i like his sweater

ban baal 

TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 28 2015 14:52. Posts 20070


  On August 28 2015 09:58 lebowski wrote:
such retard omg



Balls is doing something courageous like helping a girl who is being harassed by another dude. I think a more accurate word here is retarded, so I fixed your quote for you. You'r welcome.

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 28 2015 15:42. Posts 8648


  On August 28 2015 13:52 TalentedTom wrote:
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Balls is doing something courageous like helping a girl who is being harassed by another dude. I think a more accurate word here is retarded, so I fixed your quote for you. You'r welcome.


actually it's both, having balls and being retarded are not mutually exclusive. 'having balls' means doing something others would be scared or intimidated by, it doesn't mean that thing isn't pointless or stupid (and it often is). it has nothing to do with the heroic/chivalrous part you added to it.

+ Show Spoiler +

Truck-Crash Life 

Minsk   United States. Aug 28 2015 17:53. Posts 1558

No scalability or sustainability to his idea. Sorry.


lebowski   Greece. Aug 28 2015 19:04. Posts 9205


  On August 28 2015 14:42 bigredhoss wrote:
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actually it's both, having balls and being retarded are not mutually exclusive. 'having balls' means doing something others would be scared or intimidated by, it doesn't mean that thing isn't pointless or stupid (and it often is). it has nothing to do with the heroic/chivalrous part you added to it.

+ Show Spoiler +



new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

ClouD87   Italy. Aug 28 2015 19:11. Posts 524

I don't know why you guys flame him so hard, many people like to risk their lives in different ways and feel rewarded by that experience. I don't see the difference between this and mountain climbing.


Santafairy   Korea (South). Aug 28 2015 19:17. Posts 2226


  On August 28 2015 18:11 ClouD87 wrote:
I don't know why you guys flame him so hard, many people like to risk their lives in different ways and feel rewarded by that experience. I don't see the difference between this and mountain climbing.


in mountain climbing you start at the bottom and go to the top of a mountain

in this case he starts at the tops of buildings until he will eventually slip

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

austrian oak   Belgium. Aug 28 2015 19:41. Posts 520

If you do these moves at a non lethal or non injuring height it seems very unimpressive. So if they experience it in that way then its really no effort for them and thus it is nothing to write home about.

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brambolius   Netherlands. Aug 28 2015 20:20. Posts 1708

das craycray

Heat......EXTEND 

whamm!   Albania. Aug 29 2015 02:03. Posts 11625

not impressed with morons who risk their lives for next to nothing. at least have name to fame instead of "two crazy russians"


devon06atX   Canada. Aug 29 2015 04:02. Posts 5458

Natural selection works in mysterious ways


Floofy   Canada. Aug 29 2015 04:43. Posts 8708


  On August 28 2015 14:42 bigredhoss wrote:
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actually it's both, having balls and being retarded are not mutually exclusive. 'having balls' means doing something others would be scared or intimidated by, it doesn't mean that thing isn't pointless or stupid (and it often is). it has nothing to do with the heroic/chivalrous part you added to it.

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I agree with tom tho.

Its a bit like in poker, someone who do a very bold bluff in final table of WSOP, like chris moneymake did, has BALLS.
But the dude who goes to pennies table and go all in every hands... he doesn't have "balls", hes just retarded.
To me, this video is the second case scenario.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 29/08/2015 04:45

TimDawg    United States. Aug 29 2015 05:41. Posts 10197


  On August 29 2015 03:02 devon06atX wrote:
Natural selection works in mysterious ways


darwinism at it's finest

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Liquid`Drone   Norway. Aug 30 2015 14:36. Posts 3093


  On August 28 2015 18:11 ClouD87 wrote:
I don't know why you guys flame him so hard, many people like to risk their lives in different ways and feel rewarded by that experience. I don't see the difference between this and mountain climbing.



but it's a risk-reward type of calculation, and it's unfathomable to me how the reward from doing this can rival the risk from doing this. I also think that climbing K2 is dumber than climbing mount everest.
then again, I actually think that if you've genuinely conquered your fear, then this stuff isn't nearly as dangerous as it looks. If you're in good shape then pretty much nothing here would difficult if you were doing it 1 meter above ground rather than 100.

Mostly though it's just a way of relating to russians being so badass that we sheltered westerners find it incomprehensible.

lol POKER 

lebowski   Greece. Aug 31 2015 00:45. Posts 9205

If every action was somehow calculated with cold logic then nobody would ever risk his life for anything

when someone does it for himself, because he wants to feel the adrenaline rush (or whatever reason one could have which btw nobody here can claim to know) so many people call him retarded.

Should this crazy russian mofo care what people think? No, because he should understand that people cheer for "the crazies" when it's convenient. Give this guy a gun and send him to kill or be killed for a flag and they'd call him a hero.
But no! Don't risk your life for your own pleasure ! You're making everyone uncomfortable with your non altruistic behavior!

Btw, approving of/encouraging "heroic" self sacrifice in a society isn't a sign of nobility, it just shows that you can appreciate your ass being saved by some psycho mofo who doesn't even know you. When you're praising the "heroes" (while not being one) you essentially just try to encourage such behavior for your own benefit.

This guy has huge balls, he's most probably an adrenaline junkie, there are people with worse habits out there anyway. But I'm not going to hear from people who rest behind a pc that there's nothing ballsy about flirting with death.

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 31/08/2015 00:59

lebowski   Greece. Aug 31 2015 00:54. Posts 9205


  On August 29 2015 03:43 Floofy wrote:
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I agree with tom tho.

Its a bit like in poker, someone who do a very bold bluff in final table of WSOP, like chris moneymake did, has BALLS.
But the dude who goes to pennies table and go all in every hands... he doesn't have "balls", hes just retarded.
To me, this video is the second case scenario.


that's a really terrible analogy.
the dudes in the vid risk their lives, the equivalent of going all in for pennies would be if they were 2 meters above the ground doing this.
If you took your entire bankroll/life savings and gambled at the nosebleeds with it you'd be both ballsy and stupid.

having balls and being retarded are not mutually exclusive

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 31/08/2015 01:08

AndrewSong    United States. Aug 31 2015 04:30. Posts 2355



Reminds me of this guy

 Last edit: 31/08/2015 04:42

LikeASet   United States. Sep 01 2015 05:01. Posts 2113


  On August 30 2015 23:45 lebowski wrote:
If every action was somehow calculated with cold logic then nobody would ever risk his life for anything

when someone does it for himself, because he wants to feel the adrenaline rush (or whatever reason one could have which btw nobody here can claim to know) so many people call him retarded.

Should this crazy russian mofo care what people think? No, because he should understand that people cheer for "the crazies" when it's convenient. Give this guy a gun and send him to kill or be killed for a flag and they'd call him a hero.
But no! Don't risk your life for your own pleasure ! You're making everyone uncomfortable with your non altruistic behavior!

Btw, approving of/encouraging "heroic" self sacrifice in a society isn't a sign of nobility, it just shows that you can appreciate your ass being saved by some psycho mofo who doesn't even know you. When you're praising the "heroes" (while not being one) you essentially just try to encourage such behavior for your own benefit.

This guy has huge balls, he's most probably an adrenaline junkie, there are people with worse habits out there anyway. But I'm not going to hear from people who rest behind a pc that there's nothing ballsy about flirting with death.



Bad analogy.

This guy vs a soldier, pretty much don't have to explain this. No such thing as noble self sacrifice? So uh it's only noble when you know the people? What kind of logic is that? This guy has huge balls? Why would you praise this kind of behavior? Random, thoughtless risks that don't benefit anyone, while puts others in danger. BTW don't know if this guy is doing this for himself or not? I wonder why he posts his videos on instagram and youtube...

Just basically disagreed with everything you just said.


lebowski   Greece. Sep 01 2015 12:26. Posts 9205


  On September 01 2015 04:01 LikeASet wrote:
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Bad analogy.

This guy vs a soldier, pretty much don't have to explain this. No such thing as noble self sacrifice? So uh it's only noble when you know the people? What kind of logic is that? This guy has huge balls? Why would you praise this kind of behavior? Random, thoughtless risks that don't benefit anyone, while puts others in danger. BTW don't know if this guy is doing this for himself or not? I wonder why he posts his videos on instagram and youtube...

Just basically disagreed with everything you just said.



You didn't understand my post at all, perhaps I fucked up with the words because I :
a)certainly didn't make an analogy
b)didn't praise his behavior, which I'm not sure I even understand
c)didn't suggest that he might not be doing this for his own benefit, in fact the whole point I tried to make was based on the opposite premise. I'm just not sure why exactly he does this. Adrenaline? Fame?
d)have no idea where the "only noble if you know the person" thing you mention comes from

Ok here it goes:

People are cheering for heroic self sacrifice because they consider it +ev for society and their asses in it (they don't do it themselves ofc), but when they see someone who flirts with death for his own sake, they somehow even deny that it takes balls to do what he did.
As if you're supposed to have a universal great moral motive to do something that involves overcoming your fear
As if the only way that some action is fearless is if it's aligned with all the random values a generic forum person holds in regard

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 01/09/2015 12:47

Baalim   Mexico. Sep 01 2015 13:14. Posts 34250

Of fucking course its fucking brave, you dont need a noble cause for something to be brave, bravery is our ability to cope with fear and those guys clearly handle it really well.

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Nazgul    Netherlands. Sep 01 2015 15:03. Posts 7080

I have trouble watching this too. Madness. I have no issue with them doing it though everyone should live their life as long as you don't harm others. Not sure what is retarded about having other priorities.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

lucky331   . Sep 01 2015 15:52. Posts 1124

I had the same feeling when I was watching 'The Walk' teaser to some extent. I think this might be the first movie I would like to watch in 3d.


Jamie217   Canada. Sep 01 2015 16:53. Posts 4351


  On September 01 2015 14:03 Nazgul wrote:
I have trouble watching this too. Madness. I have no issue with them doing it though everyone should live their life as long as you don't harm others. Not sure what is retarded about having other priorities.



My only issue is the possibility of them falling to the ground and injuring/killing someone... Although the probability of that happening is slim, it is definitely a non 0 %


cariadon   Estonia. Sep 01 2015 17:33. Posts 4019

He won't slip and he will live forever.


okyougosu   Russian Federation. Sep 01 2015 21:32. Posts 963



http://coub.com/view/7wfcp

upd: failed to make it work directly on the page, mods pls

LammermanLast edit: 01/09/2015 21:36

LikeASet   United States. Sep 01 2015 23:20. Posts 2113


  On September 01 2015 11:26 lebowski wrote:
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You didn't understand my post at all, perhaps I fucked up with the words because I :
a)certainly didn't make an analogy
b)didn't praise his behavior, which I'm not sure I even understand
c)didn't suggest that he might not be doing this for his own benefit, in fact the whole point I tried to make was based on the opposite premise. I'm just not sure why exactly he does this. Adrenaline? Fame?
d)have no idea where the "only noble if you know the person" thing you mention comes from

Ok here it goes:

People are cheering for heroic self sacrifice because they consider it +ev for society and their asses in it (they don't do it themselves ofc), but when they see someone who flirts with death for his own sake, they somehow even deny that it takes balls to do what he did.
As if you're supposed to have a universal great moral motive to do something that involves overcoming your fear
As if the only way that some action is fearless is if it's aligned with all the random values a generic forum person holds in regard



In the context of most cultures in today's society, whenever someone describes another as "having big balls" it's usually a compliment and a sign of praise. I don't think anyone is questioning this guy's bravery although it can be disputed because bravery can depend on the subject's perspective, whether he even fully understands what he's doing or not. If you perceive 0% risk (being correct or incorrect is irrelevant), then bravery can not really be displayed. But hey, I think I'm starting to go too deep than this guy's video deserves. Anyways...

I think risks that get praised should be risks that display admiral qualities and/or benefits others.

Risks like the one this guy is taking should not be praised in my opinion, just because you display the absence of fear doesn't mean you deserve praise. For example people that light their crotch on fire on youtube display fearlessness but people just call them flat out retarded.

If you personally weren't trying to praise this guy I'll give you that, but when people say that this guy has big balls it just makes me sigh for humanity. People can praise whoever they want though, although this guy would have the fraction of the fame if the video was "man falls to his death while trying to walk across a ledge." If the video was something like "Man climbing up the side of a skyscraper, then I can easily give props."

Someone else could have made the comment about nobility, too lazy to go back for that one sorry if it wasn't you.

 Last edit: 01/09/2015 23:22

Loco   Canada. Sep 08 2015 14:20. Posts 20963


  On September 01 2015 15:53 Jamie217 wrote:
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My only issue is the possibility of them falling to the ground and injuring/killing someone... Although the probability of that happening is slim, it is definitely a non 0 %


You guys are really not thinking about this very deeply. Virtually no one exists independently of others. There are always consequences to losing your life that affect other people. These people have friends, families, perhaps partners, you know? Let's find out just how honest you are about not having problems with this: would you support your own (hypothetical) kid doing it because "he's free to live his life how he wants"? Be honest. Most likely than not, what you really mean is: "as long as it doesn't affect me somehow, it's fine." Which is a poor justification for supporting anything.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 08/09/2015 14:37

Loco   Canada. Sep 08 2015 14:39. Posts 20963

Lebowski, have you read Kafka's "A Hunger Artist"? If not, I recommend you do. It's a very short read. I think that there is a point to be made that these guys might, after all, be much like the hunger artist in that story.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Nazgul    Netherlands. Sep 08 2015 17:23. Posts 7080


  On September 08 2015 13:20 Loco wrote:
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You guys are really not thinking about this very deeply. Virtually no one exists independently of others. There are always consequences to losing your life that affect other people. These people have friends, families, perhaps partners, you know? Let's find out just how honest you are about not having problems with this: would you support your own (hypothetical) kid doing it because "he's free to live his life how he wants"? Be honest. Most likely than not, what you really mean is: "as long as it doesn't affect me somehow, it's fine." Which is a poor justification for supporting anything.


There's a lot of things that I wouldn't support my own kid doing yet I have no issue with if people want to do it themselves. Drugs are a good example. I'm not saying that doing this can't hurt their family, nor do I think that is a good way to measure whether I'm ok with it.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmoLast edit: 08/09/2015 17:25

Loco   Canada. Sep 08 2015 18:16. Posts 20963

I guess I would personally say that I'm mostly detached from it, because it's not close to me, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that I'm OK with it. I'm not OK with that guy falling off the crane because he had nothing better to do and was trying to be brave or impress people. I'm not OK with young impressionable minds being influenced by this movement and who will attempt to do the same things. If given the opportunity, I would try to discourage others from doing it, regardless of whether or not they are part of my family. Tragedy is tragedy whether or not I'm there to experience it.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Nitewin   United States. Sep 08 2015 19:37. Posts 1539

+1 to lewbowski

this guy is definitely ballsy


ggplz   Sweden. Sep 08 2015 22:53. Posts 16784

Loco has a point, it does affect others but he's still "free" to live his life. You can't do so constantly worrying about what might happen etc.. otherwise you'll do nothing. Estimate risk, manage risk, expect fear & conquer fear. Still, what bothers me is that this is posted on instagram/youtube and might encourage other people (especially teens) to do the same sorta stuff. Like, it'll hardly encourage any on the scale of things but with 3+million views, his rep & social circle? Probably at least 10 kids tried it directly due to him. It's not only dangerous when you're up there, it's criminal tresspassing at the very least to go into buildings and do these kinds of things. It's easy to look at a guy like that who's obv very agile, strong & acrobatic and be encouraged to do something similar then fuck it up and end up painting the pavement.

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

Baalim   Mexico. Sep 09 2015 01:18. Posts 34250


  On September 01 2015 14:03 Nazgul wrote:
I have trouble watching this too. Madness. I have no issue with them doing it though everyone should live their life as long as you don't harm others. Not sure what is retarded about having other priorities.



I didnt expect support to my idea especially not from you, pleasant surprise

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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 09 2015 01:19. Posts 34250


  On September 08 2015 17:16 Loco wrote:
I guess I would personally say that I'm mostly detached from it, because it's not close to me, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that I'm OK with it. I'm not OK with that guy falling off the crane because he had nothing better to do and was trying to be brave or impress people. I'm not OK with young impressionable minds being influenced by this movement and who will attempt to do the same things. If given the opportunity, I would try to discourage others from doing it, regardless of whether or not they are part of my family. Tragedy is tragedy whether or not I'm there to experience it.



I would discourage it too, If i saw it I would tell them to stop, that its not worth it but its ultimately their life and they are free to do whatever the fuck they want

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 09 2015 01:23. Posts 9634

lol at calling him retarded cuz he s entertaining himself in a dangerous manner - dont try to justify your lack of balls by calling others retarded

world isn't black or white .. get read

perhaps the guy should just go and sit in front of a TV instead of doing what feels right for him for your convenience - is that it ?
the chances of him falling are close to the chances of you giving cancer to someone cause of the CO2 emissions from your car

no its not something I would do either but im not the one to judge him or whatsoever

 Last edit: 09/09/2015 01:24

ggplz   Sweden. Sep 09 2015 01:38. Posts 16784

Ehh, I think you can definitely judge him, he's being pretty reckless and irresponsible for cheap thrills and because it's "cool". Not worth it for anyone with a level head. Do you think the 15 year old kids watching him don't judge him? But it's ok for the kid to since it's in a deluded positive light but we can't since it's bad to judge? Fuck him. Also, you can't state the world isn't black and white then tell us we think he should go sit infront of the TV wtf.. there's something inbetween there. I'd say the chance he falls is extremely high relative to other risks.

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 09/09/2015 01:44

LikeASet   United States. Sep 09 2015 08:01. Posts 2113


  On September 09 2015 00:23 Spitfiree wrote:
lol at calling him retarded cuz he s entertaining himself in a dangerous manner - dont try to justify your lack of balls by calling others retarded

world isn't black or white .. get read

perhaps the guy should just go and sit in front of a TV instead of doing what feels right for him for your convenience - is that it ?
the chances of him falling are close to the chances of you giving cancer to someone cause of the CO2 emissions from your car

no its not something I would do either but im not the one to judge him or whatsoever





So you can't call someone who likes to stick their head into the open mouths of crocodiles for fun retarded? There comes a point when it becomes reasonable to call certain acts retarded in terms of the pleasure they provide in relation to the type and amount of pleasure it provides. There does not need to be an exact formula for these kinds of things. If you're driving down an empty windy road at 100mph in a Honda Civic sure whatever we all speed for fun every now and then, if we hear later that you crashed because you lost control driving at 130mph down a windy road, well then that's what you get for being retarded. If you can't enjoy life without putting your life in serious danger then you obviously have some issues. No one wants to physically prevent this guy from doing what he want's, no one is saying that he has no balls, no one is trying to compare themselves to him in terms of balls either.

I swear man, some people are so full of bs in these forums, if your friend, son, or brother started doing flips on the ledges of of tall buildings out of nowhere your first thought is going to be "WTF are you doing!? Are you retarded or something?" Not "OMG you're such a free spirit, go on and do as you please and don't listen to anyone who tells you that what you're doing is retarded."

People are also assuming that "Oh you think jump on ledges is retarded?" "Oh you must be one of those guys that doesn't live life working a 9-5 in a small cubicle and then go home and play WOW all night."

Where the hell is all this coming from?

Why are people getting so offended and generalizing everyone who is criticizing this thrill seeker in the first place, jesus christ relax we're just calling him retarded, not trying to ban the whole world from walking on rooftops.

 Last edit: 09/09/2015 08:08

lebowski   Greece. Sep 09 2015 11:40. Posts 9205


  On September 08 2015 13:39 Loco wrote:
Lebowski, have you read Kafka's "A Hunger Artist"? If not, I recommend you do. It's a very short read. I think that there is a point to be made that these guys might, after all, be much like the hunger artist in that story.


I just read it. Interesting read, I'm still not sure of what the story's main allegory is. It should have to do with a sarcastic take on the artistic world in general. I suppose the parallel you make to the russian daredevils has to do with the hunger artist's final words that he shouldn't be admired because in reality he just couldn't find food that he enjoyed (so he had no choice)? I'm not really sure of the analogy here.

While I wouldn't want people close to me to risk their lives for reasons I can't even understand, I have to give this to the crazy russian dudes:

they are fighting their own fear and winning. Maybe they have no choice, they're bored out of their minds otherwise etc, it doesn't matter. If they were scared first ( I have no reason to think otherwise), they made a giant step; perhaps to their deaths or to a purpose that we could argue is completely stupid, it still doesn't matter. The fear was there and it was overcome. Objections to admiring just this "daredevil" feature probably spring from focusing too much on the reason they do it and I don't understand why. Sure if we were talking about guys hijacking airplanes focusing on their courage would be stupid, but so many people in this forum are too eager to jump on the hatewagon, even if these russians have pretty much unknown/harmless for others motivations.

I have no great logical masterplan for what is objectively worth doing in one's life, or reasons why everyone should drag it down to his late 90s with caution. Yes these guys have families and girlfriends and they'll break their heart when they die etc but if you take this line of thinking too far it's pretty impossible to live at all and I guess people draw the line at different places. I somewhat know where I draw the line for me, but I don't think that it's a universal constant, more like a random occurance. One doesn't buy a motorcycle because he could kill a pedestrian or his mother if something bad happened, the other can't even get out because he could step on an ant and kill it.

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 09/09/2015 12:08

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 09 2015 13:33. Posts 9634

Yes basing arguments on primal instincts is whats the best


and rofl at @ggplz 15yo kids argument ... i don't think its even worth answering to that

 Last edit: 09/09/2015 13:35

LikeASet   United States. Sep 09 2015 15:15. Posts 2113


  On September 08 2015 17:16 Loco wrote:
I guess I would personally say that I'm mostly detached from it, because it's not close to me, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that I'm OK with it. I'm not OK with that guy falling off the crane because he had nothing better to do and was trying to be brave or impress people. I'm not OK with young impressionable minds being influenced by this movement and who will attempt to do the same things. If given the opportunity, I would try to discourage others from doing it, regardless of whether or not they are part of my family. Tragedy is tragedy whether or not I'm there to experience it.



I think this is the most sane and reasonable comment in this thread so far

and then there are others, not going to quote them and put them on blast, that are useless ones and just plain arrogant.

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Sep 09 2015 19:26. Posts 5108

This is just attention-whoring taken to a new level, no ?

Thou, it was kinda exciting to watch the first time i saw it a long time ago

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humPah   Finland. Sep 12 2015 00:08. Posts 1544


  On September 09 2015 00:23 Spitfiree wrote:
the chances of him falling are close to the chances of you giving cancer to someone cause of the CO2 emissions from your car



Indeed. Wait, what?

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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 12 2015 06:03. Posts 34250


  On September 09 2015 18:26 VanDerMeyde wrote:
This is just attention-whoring taken to a new level, no ?

Thou, it was kinda exciting to watch the first time i saw it a long time ago



It isnt attenting whoring nor cheap thrills, if you talked to these guys I bet they would tell you that its the best feeling and thing in their lives

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Naib   Hungary. Sep 13 2015 09:39. Posts 968

Is there a collection of videos of ppl doing the same stuff but falling to their deaths? I'm kinda curious

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auffenpuffer   Finland. Sep 13 2015 16:33. Posts 1429

I'm not entirely convinced that it's not cheap thrills. Sure it's the best thing in their lives, but a heroin addict will tell you the same about heroin. I remember reading about this in a Finnish newspaper some years ago, in Russia there's a whole subculture of young people who refuse alcohol and do stunts like these (kinda like straight edge, except that instead of fighting they do this). I couldn't help but wonder if getting drunk with alcohol instead of adrenalin was after all the more healthy choice.

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brambolius   Netherlands. Sep 14 2015 00:05. Posts 1708


  On September 12 2015 05:03 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



It isnt attenting whoring nor cheap thrills, if you talked to these guys I bet they would tell you that its the best feeling and thing in their lives


Heroine addicts will tell you the same thing right up to the gutter. With these guys prob more like......down to the splatter ? badumm tsss

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RaiZ   France. Sep 14 2015 15:37. Posts 1503

It's not that hard to pull it off. Unless you're afraid of heights. I've done more stupid than this when I was younger. But now I don't feel the need to prove anything by doing that. It's their way of life just let them do whatever the fuck they want. If they're confident, then they're nothing wrong with that. Either way it's way better than getting addicted to drugs.

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Sep 14 2015 23:03. Posts 3093

video plz

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whamm!   Albania. Sep 15 2015 00:38. Posts 11625

They should build public structures far away from the crowded cities for these guys, just like skate parks, but only for suicidal morons just so that they don't hurt anybody else physically and otherwise.


RaiZ   France. Sep 15 2015 01:29. Posts 1503


  On September 14 2015 22:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:
video plz


Believe what you want but I won't do any stupid shit anymore. You also have to consider the older you get the less bolder you will be. It's a fact.
I may have exaggerated about doing the same shit but doing something more stupid ? Hell yes. I'm glad I've survived though.

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Loco   Canada. Sep 15 2015 02:43. Posts 20963


  On September 09 2015 10:40 lebowski wrote:
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I just read it. Interesting read, I'm still not sure of what the story's main allegory is. It should have to do with a sarcastic take on the artistic world in general. I suppose the parallel you make to the russian daredevils has to do with the hunger artist's final words that he shouldn't be admired because in reality he just couldn't find food that he enjoyed (so he had no choice)? I'm not really sure of the analogy here.





Sorry, I forgot about this thread. Yes, I was thinking about his last words. Essentially, while some people might think what he's doing is really hard and brave, and that it's a genuine challenge for him, in reality, and because of his nature, it was easy for him to do. In the same way, to the normal person it might look like those daredevils are overcoming their fear of death, but in reality, it may simply be that they are anomalies and don't have one. Just a thought.

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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 15 2015 02:53. Posts 34250

so those guys are idiots attention whores looking for cheap thrills but this guy is amazing..... riiiiight:

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auffenpuffer   Finland. Sep 15 2015 11:56. Posts 1429

no actually I don't think mr. Maddison is amazing, and I'm generally not that impressed by people who do insanely dangerous yet ultimately pointless things, for example mountaineers who climb Everest (mortality risk on single climb being about 10%). I don't think such people are idiots (I met one Everest climber once, seemed pretty high IQ) or attention whores, but they surely are not balanced people with healthy life goals imo. Sure everyone plays with his own money as he pleases but I maintain that cheap thrills (or actually too expensive thrills) is what it comes down to. Youtube videos of these stunts are more fun to watch than watching someone shoot up heroin, and probably the stunts have utility for signalling purposes in mating unlike drug addiction, but those are probably the only advantages over heroin I'm willing to admit.

to clarify I think that dangerous stunts that are instrumental in reaching something useful (e.g. money) are not really a sign of a unbalanced person with unhealthy life goals, even if those stunts are as such arbitrary and pointless. On the other hand stunts whose only value is the adrenalin are about cheap thrills.

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Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 15 2015 18:42. Posts 1631

my #1 fear is by far heights.

this was amazing to me.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 15 2015 18:50. Posts 1631

im quite sure these guys don't do risk assestment.

one of them most likely worked on rooftops or has been up high his whole life, if u spend the majority of ur time up in the air like this, then this would be a much more comfortable thing to do.

to me it seems like they are just normal guys havin fun, prolly went super safe at first and saw no fear and took off the harnesses n restraints


RaiZ   France. Sep 18 2015 19:53. Posts 1503

Pretty sure they didn't put restraints or harness or anything when they first started doing this. It's just something you can do on the whim (not sure of the word) simply because you have enough confidence.

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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 19 2015 09:54. Posts 34250


  On September 15 2015 10:56 auffenpuffer wrote:
no actually I don't think mr. Maddison is amazing, and I'm generally not that impressed by people who do insanely dangerous yet ultimately pointless things, for example mountaineers who climb Everest (mortality risk on single climb being about 10%). I don't think such people are idiots (I met one Everest climber once, seemed pretty high IQ) or attention whores, but they surely are not balanced people with healthy life goals imo. Sure everyone plays with his own money as he pleases but I maintain that cheap thrills (or actually too expensive thrills) is what it comes down to. Youtube videos of these stunts are more fun to watch than watching someone shoot up heroin, and probably the stunts have utility for signalling purposes in mating unlike drug addiction, but those are probably the only advantages over heroin I'm willing to admit.

to clarify I think that dangerous stunts that are instrumental in reaching something useful (e.g. money) are not really a sign of a unbalanced person with unhealthy life goals, even if those stunts are as such arbitrary and pointless. On the other hand stunts whose only value is the adrenalin are about cheap thrills.



Everytying is pointless, dangerous or not, what is a healthy life goal? get a fucking job, raise some kids and rot in the ground like everyone else?

There no such things as life goals.. the only goal in life is to be happy and if possible help others be happy too.

Its ridiculous to believe that if they get money out of it its not a sign of an imbalanced mind but if they dont get money they are unbalanced, that is only indicative of maybe how business smart they are or how money driven.

I race cars and its very dangerous too (I nearly kill myself once) I dont do it because its a chip thrill, and I dont think im imbalanced, I do it because I love the feeling, to handle the car as fast as you can pushing your own fear to its limits, the concentration etc, nothing matches that, and its probably how mountain climbers feel on the summit too and its kind of sad that you dont understand nor know this feeling.



There are a couple of relevant quotes there (besides the beautiful video), that woman at the beginning is the wife of a dead driver, somehow how got what I mean.

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TimDawg    United States. Sep 19 2015 11:17. Posts 10197


  On September 15 2015 01:53 Baalim wrote:
so those guys are idiots attention whores looking for cheap thrills but this guy is amazing..... riiiiight:



the russian daredevils are doing it for the pure attention whoreness factor (yeah I just made that a word)

people like the motocross guy doing that insane jump and you doing rally are completely different imo for the reasons you just listed as to why you race rally. you are doing it purely for the love

these russians are brainless idiots that do this to impress people and get more instagram followers. maybe I'm not understanding your point but I see a clear difference between what they're doing and what the motocross guy does...

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lebowski   Greece. Sep 19 2015 22:03. Posts 9205

So what exactly is the difference ?
Won't these dudes say similar stuff about what they do?

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NewbSaibot   United States. Sep 20 2015 07:29. Posts 4943

bye nowLast edit: 20/09/2015 07:30

 



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