UFC 182: Jones vs. Cormier - Page 19

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/j...thread-caution-snow-flurries-2906257/

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Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports breaks down exactly why Jones was allowed to fight Daniel Cormier on January 3rd.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7/7...ht-allowed-vs-daniel-cormier-mma-news

why are they testing fighters on out-of-competition period then if they have their hands tied together?
makes no sense to me

On January 07 2015 13:19 Raidern wrote: why are they testing fighters on out-of-competition period then if they have their hands tied together? makes no sense to me

My understanding is they are giving them general drug screenings which screen for a variety of drugs, some legal and some illegal out of competition.

He asked the UFC to do WADA testing for him vs Glover, which is where they give you like 3 random tests all throughout camp. So at least back then he most likely wasn't doing coke during training camp.

Also curious as to why coke isn't considered an out of competition PED. I've only done it twice, but I felt like I could easily run 15+ miles on it.

On January 07 2015 14:59 Stim_Abuser wrote: Also curious as to why coke isn't considered an out of competition PED. I've only done it twice, but I felt like I could easily run 15+ miles on it.

Because 30 minutes later, you are worse off than when you started. Clearly you forgot that part.

jone's out of competition tests show other abnormalities, including extremely low testosterone levels and unbelievably high epitestosterone levels:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7/7...-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone

https://twitter.com/victorconte

if it's true, kinda orly news to me
i think 99% of the elite athletes are on PEDs, you have to be stupid not to be with how easy it is to get away with it

On January 07 2015 22:03 Daut wrote: jone's out of competition tests show other abnormalities, including extremely low testosterone levels and unbelievably high epitestosterone levels: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7/7...-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone

In the update post, they said Jones shouldn't have been tested for cocaine in the first place: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7/7...rative-oversight-responsible-mma-news

I see so it becomes more clear to me although the rule still seems dumb. Anyway, so it looks like it's not a case of different judgement for similar situation as nick diaz and that guy who complained about being cut for weed were caught in the post-fight test, which means they had weed in their system during competition period? or were they also OOC? i took a quick look at google on it but i'm still not entirely sure thou.

jones doing cocaine 35 days before the fight is no longer the issue guys. the main issue is whether jones abnormal hormonal levels are an indicator he was taking synthetic testosterone. the side issues are the NSAC/UFC corruption and fuckery.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/j...ts-not-released-vid-included-2908095/

another smoking gun?

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Cmon guys there s not a single sport which isn't abused to the maximum, but then again there s curling

There s a pretty legit question in the thread you posted though Daut, why/how are the able to post those test results? They are strictly confidential and are of violation of the doctor-patient agreement, a bunch of people can easily lose their jobs now

Its obvious the whole scene is corrupt, GSP didn't quit for no reason and its not like he s taking his beliefs out of his ass

On January 08 2015 11:19 Spitfiree wrote: + Show Spoiler + Cmon guys there s not a single sport which isn't abused to the maximum, but then again there s curling There s a pretty legit question in the thread you posted though Daut, why/how are the able to post those test results? They are strictly confidential and are of violation of the doctor-patient agreement, a bunch of people can easily lose their jobs now

im not sure who released the info. maybe it was a leak, maybe its not strictly confidential? i dont really know. that side of things doesnt interest me as much, but im sure there is a story there as well.

and yes, im sure most of the top guys use. everyone thinks that, but so far there is no proof outside of the infrequent positive test. this could be the beginning of a huge avalanche since the NSAC just looked past troubling numbers that had the right ratios. maybe this leads to CIR testing for fighters as well as testing T:E ratios.

and finding out about all of the NSAC incompetence/corruption and the UFC's involvement with it is awesome. again everyone knew all of that already, but here is proof of it.

On January 08 2015 11:01 Daut wrote: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/j...ts-not-released-vid-included-2908095/ another smoking gun?

Wow...

now the NSAC claims they already did CIR tests on his samples? this shit just isnt believable.

Seems like people are really looking for an issue where there isn't one here. NASC fucked up and tested for something they shouldn't have and found Coke which in Nevada had to be released because all tests are public record - pretty fucked for Jones IMO and he can probably sue them if he wants to as he never agreed to be tested for street drugs 5 weeks before a fight - T/E levels seemed abnormal so they did CIR test (obviously, we live in a cover-your-ass society), came back clean, end of fucking story. Stop looking for the conspiracy where there is none. The NASC is fucking retarded government agency (redundant statement) that shouldn't even be handling drug-tests period, and they had a "administrative oversight" - shocker of the century. Dana White is a pube who is gonna be politically correct. That's his job. It's all annoying, but get over it.

I don't give a shit that Jon Jones did coke.

I don't give a shit that Jon Jones has weird TE levels as long as he did nothing wrong, which CIR tests clearly show he didn't.

I don't give a shit that Dana White is a pube.

Just give us the fights we want to see, try and stop PED's as long as that doesn't mean FUCKING UP and testing for coke and weed, and let's all stop pretending like we care about anything else.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/23...e-on-jones-sample-all-came-back-clean

You think the NSAC is going to FALSIFY a drug test?!? If news that that happened came out, than real heads would have to roll, all the way up to the top. We are talking about a complete overhaul. For what, to protect Jon Jones and the UFC? Do you know how many loose ends there would have to be in order to falsify a drug test from a 3rd party lab? Get out of town Daut. 9/11 was an inside job too.

I suspect racism.

Some people just can't handle having a young, smart black man getting all of the attention. The only reason why they let Demetrious Johnson get away with it is because nobody knows who he is, and no one takes midgets seriously anyway.