TimDawg   United States. Aug 01 2014 03:21. Posts 10197
No way this movie could be anything but great
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dnagardi   Hungary. Aug 01 2014 03:34. Posts 1776
dunno still looks like a 1 time movie
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ggplz   Sweden. Aug 01 2014 06:16. Posts 16784
I don't watch trailers but I'm stoked for this :D
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TalentedTom   Canada. Aug 01 2014 11:53. Posts 20070
k so this is prob the best movie of the year
so what
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
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Hoolz_1907   United Kingdom. Aug 01 2014 13:30. Posts 2791
You said it Tom, so what.
Plus Matthew can never make me cry like Bruce did in Armageddon, so what's the point of even watching other space movies.
Look at his hand and equities, what do you expect him to have here, uno cards? - TianYuan
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 01 2014 14:52. Posts 9634
You know its sarcasm when the guy claims to have cried cause of Bruce in Armageddon
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TalentedTom   Canada. Aug 01 2014 15:31. Posts 20070
On August 01 2014 13:52 Spitfiree wrote:
You know its sarcasm when the guy claims to have cried cause of Bruce in Armageddon
not sure if serious, that was probably one of the saddest moments in any movie I've seen
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
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traxamillion   United States. Aug 01 2014 15:35. Posts 10468
lol
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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 01 2014 15:50. Posts 13047
Looks legit but, I doubt he'll be able to outdo his performance in "Dazed and Confused."
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mnj   United States. Aug 01 2014 19:36. Posts 3848
i think mcconaughey (hardest last name ever) is underrated as an actor. it's easy to be pidgeon-holed as a certain role but come on, "how to lose a guy in 10 days" was forever ago. thought he was good in the roles that he got including
1) wolf of wallstreet
2) dallas buyers club
3) lincoln lawyer
anyway based on the trailer it's obvious that interstellar travel is going to lead to a dillema that mcconaughey is going to outlive his kids and therefore potentially never see them again, but since it's a nolan film, i imagine there being a satisfying twist at the end rectifying the dilemma and giving me a feel good ending for the mcconaughey and his kids
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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Aug 01 2014 20:14. Posts 3093
he was rated poorly cuz he was just acting crap roles in crap movies. now everyone has been on his nuts for a while (following like 4 amazing performances).
lol POKER
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TheHuHu3   United States. Aug 02 2014 20:45. Posts 5544
On August 01 2014 18:36 mnj wrote:
i think mcconaughey (hardest last name ever) is underrated as an actor. it's easy to be pidgeon-holed as a certain role but come on, "how to lose a guy in 10 days" was forever ago. thought he was good in the roles that he got including
1) wolf of wallstreet
2) dallas buyers club
3) lincoln lawyer
anyway based on the trailer it's obvious that interstellar travel is going to lead to a dillema that mcconaughey is going to outlive his kids and therefore potentially never see them again, but since it's a nolan film, i imagine there being a satisfying twist at the end rectifying the dilemma and giving me a feel good ending for the mcconaughey and his kids
He was amazing in True Detective. Too bad that show isn't as good as everyone says it is.
/shield
TheHuHu4 coming soon :)
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 02 2014 21:24. Posts 9634
On August 01 2014 13:52 Spitfiree wrote:
You know its sarcasm when the guy claims to have cried cause of Bruce in Armageddon
not sure if serious, that was probably one of the saddest moments in any movie I've seen
Bruce Willis saving the world is something so standard my emotions are not even noticing it.
there re tons of other movie moments that are so much sadder :
Lion King, Mr Nobody, Requiem for a dream, Timetraveler's wife, A walk to remember( no homo), Saving Private Ryan and those re on top of my head
Matthew McConaughey has a sick year - true detective, dallas buyers club, and his appearence in the wolf of wallstreet is one of the funniest moments in the movie
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JosephCalgary   Canada. Aug 03 2014 14:04. Posts 285
Armageddon was a pretty damn good movie. It would surprise me if interstellar is better.
What is the crime for apostasy?!
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TalentedTom   Canada. Aug 06 2014 08:33. Posts 20070
He finally realized he can become a bigger star by doing movies other then chick flicks, better late then never. Lion King is sad, but I was too young / ignorant to realize it when I first saw the movie, whereas for Armageddon I was at the age of unbalanced hormones and shit was very sad.
#thewire
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
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Syllogism   New Zealand. Nov 08 2014 02:23. Posts 214
I just saw the movie.........
AMAZING
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k4ir0s   Canada. Nov 08 2014 03:57. Posts 3476
I liked it! Inspiring movie, puts things into perspective, space exploration movies always make me feel small and unimportant.
it's similar to Inception, the way the movie unravels, it's layers of complexity
In the end, when he's trapped in time. How did he get there? There's mentions of the human race advancing beyond the linearity of time, and that they somehow (the future) created this reality for him?
It somewhat reminded me of the ending for Space Odyssey
Also, why was the one astronaut so dedicated to sabotaging the others? I understand his motives for trying to kill Cooper for the ship/resources to aid the with colonization, but to follow them into space and risk everything - was he simply psychotic?
Nice score..
I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Nov 08 2014 04:00. Posts 4080
will view this once it becomes available on a more binary level
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whamm!   Albania. Nov 08 2014 04:47. Posts 11625
The shield was the best show ever produced on TV. Matthew Mconaughey should've starred in it
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longple   Sweden. Nov 08 2014 09:20. Posts 4472
i liked it
DMT, nolan knows
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ggplz   Sweden. Nov 08 2014 11:30. Posts 16784
can't wait to see this
it's at the cinema here tonight.. hmmmm tempting :D
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 08 2014 11:58. Posts 10468
Sick movie go see it and pay the dam ticket price it is worth it especially if you can get to a 70mm IMAX or IMAX. Supposedly the Black Hole rendering is based on a well known physicists equations run through a supercomputer and is the most accurate visual representation of a black hole yet produced by man. Very much like 2001 a space Odyssey with a lot of homages to the film as well as direct plot similarities. Although this movie definitely has more of an emotional aspect. Great Film. McCon Is great again as is much of the remaining cast.
I wouldn't say Requiem for a Dream is really that sad. Very standard route for the female character in that film she didn't even have it that bad. She still had a nice loft to go shoot her dope after she finished a show or turning tricks. What happened to the guys was a little shittier but Cmon dude's arm falls off? Must have had the worst hygiene and harm reduction methods possible despite still having money and cars and shelters. Anyone with enough money to buy dope can afford fresh pins and filters to prevent losing an arm and then in the end the white dude is still hitting himself in the middle of a giant abscess while the rest of his veins are fine. That southern prison wasn't even remotely realistic either- they got thrown in a hard labor camp for showing up to a hospital with a drug related injury and maybe high (he hadn't even succeeded in stealing the injectable vials that he grabbed and they didn't have dope on them. Not a crime. Its a poignant and dark movie but not incredibly realistic as most non drug experienced people think it is. The plights of the characters aren't as extreme as presented either other than the dude losing his arm (which harldy happens these days unless you are a borderline suicidal dirtbag) and it fails to follow them to a truly rock bottom place. I mean the girl is just getting started by the end of the film.
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 08 2014 12:04. Posts 10468
I wanted to answer Kairos questions about the movie but im not sure how to add spoiler tags. Anyone wanna tell me how to add them?
,.,, [spoiler/] ..... [spoiler]
something like that? not sure
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PoorUser   United States. Nov 08 2014 12:35. Posts 7471
its spoiler in brackets, then what you want to write, followed by /spoiler in brackets
I thought the movie went full retard nearing the end, for me it was the biggest dissapointment of the year, maybe because I happened to predict it from the start even though I am always wrong in every other movie
bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte
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TalentedTom   Canada. Nov 08 2014 14:14. Posts 20070
On November 08 2014 12:11 locoo wrote:
I thought the movie went full retard nearing the end, for me it was the biggest dissapointment of the year, maybe because I happened to predict it from the start even though I am always wrong in every other movie
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
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mnj   United States. Nov 08 2014 14:49. Posts 3848
On November 08 2014 12:11 locoo wrote:
I thought the movie went full retard nearing the end, for me it was the biggest dissapointment of the year, maybe because I happened to predict it from the start even though I am always wrong in every other movie
this movie should have actually been titled "the fault in our stars"
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k4ir0s   Canada. Nov 08 2014 15:04. Posts 3476
On November 08 2014 12:11 locoo wrote:
I thought the movie went full retard nearing the end, for me it was the biggest dissapointment of the year, maybe because I happened to predict it from the start even though I am always wrong in every other movie
I also predicted it it was disappointing knowing the plot twist so early
I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly
Yea, i was telling myself "no way x and x is gonna happen... that would be so bad... nah im sure they got another awesome explanation instead..." and then meh
bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte
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NewbSaibot   United States. Nov 08 2014 18:11. Posts 4943
Got my tickets, starts in an hour
bye now
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NewbSaibot   United States. Nov 08 2014 22:48. Posts 4943
Movie was awful, so much junk science I was pulling my hair out. I thought the director took some science classes to have a better understanding of physics and space travel, instead he just got everything wrong from the design of the ship to how it should fly, etc. Mind you I am no physicist, but I've spent a fair amount of time wikipedia'ing concepts for space travel and think I know enough about how bad this movie failed at it. Movie filled with unnecessary plot devices as nothing more than excuses to create the next conflict. I was actually worried when it came in at like 70% on rotten tomatoes, since this movie should have been a 90% or better. That 70% is probably a very generous 70% too given by critics who dont know the first thing about space travel so they are ranking it more on story and drama. Movie is really like a 60%.
I have not proof read my own rant here so it may be filled with typo's and other grammatical errors. Just too pissed
1. The design of the ship is all wrong. Artificial gravity be means of centrifugal force would require a ship 100x that size to properly implement. In order to achieve earth-like gravity you need to rotate at about 1 rpm. The mass of the ship would be something akin to the ring in Elysium to be able to rotate at 1 rpm without making you sick. If you were to subject humans to 15rpm’s or whatever that ship was spinning at everyone would be puking their brains out. Not to mention the fact that with such a tight radius from the center of the ship, gravity would be exponentially worse with every foot you were away from the surface. This means that their feet would experience earth gravity while their heads were feeling maybe 50% of the effect. It would be intolerable. To top it off, the fucking cockpit is rotating with them dead fucking center of the ship. This would mean the pilots experience almost no gravity at all, and of course would just be getting dizzy as fuck. If you’re going to put the cockpit in the center then it should be attached to some kind of wheel so it can spin freely, and thus maintain a stable straight position, since you don’t need gravity while piloting the fucking ship.
2. OMFG with that speaking robot Tars. Was this Nolan’s Jar Jar Binks? Totally unnecessary and incredibly annoying. Aside from the ridiculous design which I’ll give a pass on since maybe NASA has considered a walking rover like this, it has personality? COME ON. We do not need a goofy fucking side-kick cracking one-liners in a drama in order to bring humor to the intensity of it all. Especially once that has mastered all the language and mannerisms of human comedy that he’s indistinguishable from a standup comic. Just completely fucking annoying and pointless.
3. A wormhole placed by aliens or humans from the future, but placed near Saturn? WHY? WHY PLACE IT SO FUCKING FAR AWAY? I’m still not sure who the whole “they” are supposed to be, but at the end it sounds like since Mathew is communicating with himself from the future that humans more or less are responsible for creating this gateway to warn themselves in the past about their demise. Even if I’m completely wrong here, it still makes no sense to place a wormhole in an arbitrary location like right behind Saturn. This is one of those plot devices I speak of, to do nothing other than make it somewhat difficult for humans to get to it and thus introduce struggle.
4. We finally make it to the first planet and they spend all of 15 minutes of movie time there. But before we got to that, this whole preposterous idea of an entire planet being stuck in time dilation. I’m sorry Nolan but that’s not how it fucking works. There’s no such thing as a planet or any other object that just because it orbits a black hole is therefore experiencing time in slow motion. The only potential possibility for this would be a planet traveling at or near lightspeed, which of course would make it impossible to land on, nevermind the fact that any such physical body would basically be destroyed long before reaching that speed. Nevertheless, the crew lands there and fucks up and gets caught in a tidal wave, fine whatever. But then he cant start because “the engines are flooded”?!?! LOL WTF! What is this spacecraft of theirs, a goddamn 60’s drag racer? Ok maybe it has some kind of hybrid atmosphere combusting engine that is more efficient than burning pure rocket fuel. The whole setup is still stupid. And our hero Tars comes to the rescue, if he can fucking cartwheel 30mph across the water then why the fuck didn’t he just do that immediately to save them? In fact why don’t they just ride him around like a fucking go kart wherever they need to go?
5. Matt Damon – I’ll give this a pass because it was kind of exciting, but still a total copout to put a villain in a movie like this. The struggle of making it to the new world and exploring was challenging enough, no need to put a psychopath on board who wants to kill everyone to save himself. Kinda reminds me of the movie “sunshine”. Really mysterious and interesting attempt to reignite the sun, crew stumbles upon old ship which they though was lost from a previous mission, only to discover a ravenous freddy Krueger like badguy trying to kill them all. Just UNNECESSARY.
6. The black hole. For starters, any black hole that you could possible orbit around would have to be at such a great distance to avoid being sucked into it that you couldn’t even see it with the naked eye. You cant just orbit a black hole fucking 100 miles out and look at it every day from your bedroom window. You’d have to orbit it from like a fucking lightyear away or some shit. Whatever, he goes to travel inside of it. Now this is another one of these annoying “zomg what is on the other side?!” questions people think science hasn’t answered. It has. A black hole isn’t a fucking hole. It’s just a goddamn body of mass who’s gravity is so strong light cant escape, hence it looks black. If you were to plunge into it you would be crushed, that’s it. If the gravity were just weak enough to let light escape then it would look like any other spherical body out there. Perhaps it would look like a planet, or maybe a scorching hot bright light. Point is that it doesn’t do anything special. You would be crushed like a pancake and die, that’s it. The only theory behind them is that what if the gravity is so strong that it bends space or time and thus you really could experience something besides death if you traveled into it? Well that’s fine and dandy, but you certainly couldn’t get out of it, so you’re still fucked if you ever go into one.
7. But he dives in and what in the fuck happened next is beyond me. Just some emotional time-rift bullshit communicating with his daughter blah blah fucking blah. Whats wrong with just saying maybe aliens really did send us the message about the wormhole?
You know what a far better wormhole discovery movie is? CONTACT. Which is hilarious because it also stars McConaughey. Humans receive a message from aliens in a very believable fashion, returned via the same source it was sent in through a method that we might figure out, by an aliens species who returns all messages like this whether the recipient gets it or not. We construct a device that we have no comprehension about using their instructions, we visit them, and we come back. Even that movie got the time dilation effect backwards with Jodie experiencing 4 hours and earth experiencing 4 seconds, but besides that one fuckup the movie was great. No badguys (besides the suicide bomber but he didn’t affect anything since they already had a backup portal, plus he only represented about 5 minutes worth of the movie) and a mystery from the perspective of the scientists on ground. The movie made as much sense as can be made when dealing with sci-fi.
Thing is if you cant get the science right then don’t make a sci-fi film that tries so hard to be realistic. Make fucking star trek or star wars or something where it’s the characters and action that drive it forward. If you want to be Kubrick and make the next 2001 then you better know your shit. Reminds me of Gravity which I also hated. “Oh it’s so realistic, there’s no sound in outer space!” Shit that movie actually begins with that reminder on screen for all the dipshits who don’t understand this concept, so that they wont be all confused when all the explosions are silent. But even then the movie is absurd with the whole satellite debris from a botched demolition and then jetpacking around in space and finding the Chinese space station etc etc.
/RANT OVER
bye now
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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 08 2014 23:32. Posts 13047
Interstellar= 5/5 stars
I'm glad they spent a lot of time with this movie. I saw Dracula Untold last month and was pissed; way too little time spent on an important story like Dracula.
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Jelle   Belgium. Nov 08 2014 23:54. Posts 3476
newbsaibot nice post
was gonna say u saved me from going but i was reading spoilers so i guess i already knew i wasnt going anyway
GroT
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Nov 09 2014 03:34. Posts 4080
movie double confirmed horrible with puertorican's 5/5 star rating
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 09 2014 15:08. Posts 10468
It should be ranked on story, characters, visuals, etc. Movie criteria. It is a Fiction movie not a documentary.
Explanation in spoilers below, contains facts about the movie.
A lot of the science was made up to fit the movie I mean just look at the robots lol. And afaik anything nearing the event horizon of a black hole will be shredded under intense heat and gravitational forces. Even landing on a planet moving so fast it warps time to the point one hour = 20 earth years and so near a black hole is implausible. I'm not sure advanced data on black holes could effectively be transferred via ticks on a watch or morse code.
A lot of the science was provocative and good though. The movie was based on a controversial and widely discussed causality paradox. The images of the black hole were based on an astrophysicists equations on the behavior of a black hole modeled on supercomputers; the most advanced of it's kind. Relativity was explained clearly and simply and fairly well represented in the movie. Dimension representation was good (they explained a wormhole would actually appear as a sphere) and the tessaract was cool and IMO well done.
The movie was ambitious and stretched and made up some things but as fiction I am ok with that and clearly effort was made to accurately portray the science.
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 09 2014 15:09. Posts 10468
Shit can a mod hide the text in my last post in spoilers if I fail to do so correctly? I forgot to do so initially. Sorry guys
-Got it taken care if.
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 09 2014 15:41. Posts 10468
this movie is a total throwback to 2001. The robots are a nod to the obsidian statues. Matt Damon trying to kill the crew to save himself and his own view of the mission was like the robot ship computer Hal in 2001 trying to kill the crew. Mcconaghey dropping into the black hole and moving through the lights was like the guy going into the portal in 2001 and once through they both realize what's going on.
Agree contact was great.
This movie was trying to display theoretical physics and science. These are things that no human has ever actually observed. So cut them some slack. Were you not entertained?
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 09 2014 15:46. Posts 10468
It was surprisingly well acted and emotional. I can see how that is a negative for many people but it adds a dimension 2001 never had. Best movie ever though?...
Maybe
This one was a mix of Gravity plus a real movie
Or
2001 plus a drama
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 09 2014 18:37. Posts 9634
Before anything, I have to say that i knew what the plot twist would be about 30 minutes into the movie, I guess I was just already well trained by Mr Nolan for him to be able to surprise me.. Anyhow :
Why would even try to question the science behind the things that happened ? This is a hollywood movie, not a fuckin science show on Discovery cmon.... Obviously pretty much all of the science was bullshit and there were things that weren't that well thought of like the re-population incubator - sure lets allow the version where 10 kids are produced by it, then what? 4 astronauts are supposed to take care of 10 female babies, although they wont have food to last more than 1-2 years, probably a few months after the children are born, are they supposed to land and instantly somehow produce food on a planet no one has ever been? Or hope that there already will be edible shit. So Plan B was completely retarded indeed...........
Anyway the concept of the movie isn't about science, its neither about action, none of Nolan's movies are about that. It's also the main reason why I would watch and re-watch almost any of Nolan's movies, they are all about the ideas, they are always about the personalities of its characters and this is the simple reason why i would score the movie 10/10. The dialogues, the monologues they were all superb and definitely unmatched by any movie in the near past. I felt like i read a great book where I questioned everything about the world and even a book rarely puts me into such a position.
Not sure if spoiler recommendation, so ill jsut put it in spoiler about what to expect from the movie : + Show Spoiler +
Visualize "Inception" without all the bullshit shooting/chasing action, add many more meaningful conversations and actions, much better understanding of the character and probably 10x the suspense
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NewbSaibot   United States. Nov 09 2014 20:25. Posts 4943
I'm not going to criticize how the millennium falcon achieves light speed because george lucas did not attempt to explain it, it's fiction so we just accept that it works and it's beyond our understanding. But interstellar makes constant attempts to explain its technology, and every attempt just feels so contrived so that Nolan can proceed with the scene. Dont try to explain time dilation on a planet orbiting a black hole if you are going to butcher it. Just say "1 hour = 7 years on earth" and make the audience deal with it. In Avatar did Cameron try to explain why certain areas float? No, he just lets the hero mutter something about "superconductors" and then gets on with it. The fact that Nolan went to such efforts as to properly render a blackhole are a prime example of this. This movie was not supposed to be pure fiction, it's supposed to be fiction grounded in reality, only problem is he got everything wrong so it's annoying. It would be like if Star Trek suddenly introduced muted action scenes because there's no sound in space, but then put air brakes on the Enterprise.
bye now
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 10 2014 15:49. Posts 10468
Just because they use an idea in a movie doesn't mean they have to have everything mathematically correct.
And all you guys knocking the science a respected PHD breaks out equations and shows that most everything in the movie is theoretically possible down to falling into a black hole, avoiding the singularity, and ending up in some 5 dimensional space.
Don't hate. Great movie obv
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mnj   United States. Nov 10 2014 17:48. Posts 3848
On November 10 2014 14:49 traxamillion wrote:
Just because they use an idea in a movie doesn't mean they have to have everything mathematically correct.
And all you guys knocking the science a respected PHD breaks out equations and shows that most everything in the movie is theoretically possible down to falling into a black hole, avoiding the singularity, and ending up in some 5 dimensional space.
Don't hate. Great movie obv
seriously. it's called a fuckign premise.
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mnj   United States. Nov 10 2014 17:52. Posts 3848
On November 08 2014 21:48 NewbSaibot wrote:
Movie was awful, so much junk science I was pulling my hair out. I thought the director took some science classes to have a better understanding of physics and space travel, instead he just got everything wrong from the design of the ship to how it should fly, etc. Mind you I am no physicist, but I've spent a fair amount of time wikipedia'ing concepts for space travel and think I know enough about how bad this movie failed at it. Movie filled with unnecessary plot devices as nothing more than excuses to create the next conflict. I was actually worried when it came in at like 70% on rotten tomatoes, since this movie should have been a 90% or better. That 70% is probably a very generous 70% too given by critics who dont know the first thing about space travel so they are ranking it more on story and drama. Movie is really like a 60%.
I have not proof read my own rant here so it may be filled with typo's and other grammatical errors. Just too pissed
1. The design of the ship is all wrong. Artificial gravity be means of centrifugal force would require a ship 100x that size to properly implement. In order to achieve earth-like gravity you need to rotate at about 1 rpm. The mass of the ship would be something akin to the ring in Elysium to be able to rotate at 1 rpm without making you sick. If you were to subject humans to 15rpm’s or whatever that ship was spinning at everyone would be puking their brains out. Not to mention the fact that with such a tight radius from the center of the ship, gravity would be exponentially worse with every foot you were away from the surface. This means that their feet would experience earth gravity while their heads were feeling maybe 50% of the effect. It would be intolerable. To top it off, the fucking cockpit is rotating with them dead fucking center of the ship. This would mean the pilots experience almost no gravity at all, and of course would just be getting dizzy as fuck. If you’re going to put the cockpit in the center then it should be attached to some kind of wheel so it can spin freely, and thus maintain a stable straight position, since you don’t need gravity while piloting the fucking ship.
2. OMFG with that speaking robot Tars. Was this Nolan’s Jar Jar Binks? Totally unnecessary and incredibly annoying. Aside from the ridiculous design which I’ll give a pass on since maybe NASA has considered a walking rover like this, it has personality? COME ON. We do not need a goofy fucking side-kick cracking one-liners in a drama in order to bring humor to the intensity of it all. Especially once that has mastered all the language and mannerisms of human comedy that he’s indistinguishable from a standup comic. Just completely fucking annoying and pointless.
3. A wormhole placed by aliens or humans from the future, but placed near Saturn? WHY? WHY PLACE IT SO FUCKING FAR AWAY? I’m still not sure who the whole “they” are supposed to be, but at the end it sounds like since Mathew is communicating with himself from the future that humans more or less are responsible for creating this gateway to warn themselves in the past about their demise. Even if I’m completely wrong here, it still makes no sense to place a wormhole in an arbitrary location like right behind Saturn. This is one of those plot devices I speak of, to do nothing other than make it somewhat difficult for humans to get to it and thus introduce struggle.
4. We finally make it to the first planet and they spend all of 15 minutes of movie time there. But before we got to that, this whole preposterous idea of an entire planet being stuck in time dilation. I’m sorry Nolan but that’s not how it fucking works. There’s no such thing as a planet or any other object that just because it orbits a black hole is therefore experiencing time in slow motion. The only potential possibility for this would be a planet traveling at or near lightspeed, which of course would make it impossible to land on, nevermind the fact that any such physical body would basically be destroyed long before reaching that speed. Nevertheless, the crew lands there and fucks up and gets caught in a tidal wave, fine whatever. But then he cant start because “the engines are flooded”?!?! LOL WTF! What is this spacecraft of theirs, a goddamn 60’s drag racer? Ok maybe it has some kind of hybrid atmosphere combusting engine that is more efficient than burning pure rocket fuel. The whole setup is still stupid. And our hero Tars comes to the rescue, if he can fucking cartwheel 30mph across the water then why the fuck didn’t he just do that immediately to save them? In fact why don’t they just ride him around like a fucking go kart wherever they need to go?
5. Matt Damon – I’ll give this a pass because it was kind of exciting, but still a total copout to put a villain in a movie like this. The struggle of making it to the new world and exploring was challenging enough, no need to put a psychopath on board who wants to kill everyone to save himself. Kinda reminds me of the movie “sunshine”. Really mysterious and interesting attempt to reignite the sun, crew stumbles upon old ship which they though was lost from a previous mission, only to discover a ravenous freddy Krueger like badguy trying to kill them all. Just UNNECESSARY.
6. The black hole. For starters, any black hole that you could possible orbit around would have to be at such a great distance to avoid being sucked into it that you couldn’t even see it with the naked eye. You cant just orbit a black hole fucking 100 miles out and look at it every day from your bedroom window. You’d have to orbit it from like a fucking lightyear away or some shit. Whatever, he goes to travel inside of it. Now this is another one of these annoying “zomg what is on the other side?!” questions people think science hasn’t answered. It has. A black hole isn’t a fucking hole. It’s just a goddamn body of mass who’s gravity is so strong light cant escape, hence it looks black. If you were to plunge into it you would be crushed, that’s it. If the gravity were just weak enough to let light escape then it would look like any other spherical body out there. Perhaps it would look like a planet, or maybe a scorching hot bright light. Point is that it doesn’t do anything special. You would be crushed like a pancake and die, that’s it. The only theory behind them is that what if the gravity is so strong that it bends space or time and thus you really could experience something besides death if you traveled into it? Well that’s fine and dandy, but you certainly couldn’t get out of it, so you’re still fucked if you ever go into one.
7. But he dives in and what in the fuck happened next is beyond me. Just some emotional time-rift bullshit communicating with his daughter blah blah fucking blah. Whats wrong with just saying maybe aliens really did send us the message about the wormhole?
You know what a far better wormhole discovery movie is? CONTACT. Which is hilarious because it also stars McConaughey. Humans receive a message from aliens in a very believable fashion, returned via the same source it was sent in through a method that we might figure out, by an aliens species who returns all messages like this whether the recipient gets it or not. We construct a device that we have no comprehension about using their instructions, we visit them, and we come back. Even that movie got the time dilation effect backwards with Jodie experiencing 4 hours and earth experiencing 4 seconds, but besides that one fuckup the movie was great. No badguys (besides the suicide bomber but he didn’t affect anything since they already had a backup portal, plus he only represented about 5 minutes worth of the movie) and a mystery from the perspective of the scientists on ground. The movie made as much sense as can be made when dealing with sci-fi.
Thing is if you cant get the science right then don’t make a sci-fi film that tries so hard to be realistic. Make fucking star trek or star wars or something where it’s the characters and action that drive it forward. If you want to be Kubrick and make the next 2001 then you better know your shit. Reminds me of Gravity which I also hated. “Oh it’s so realistic, there’s no sound in outer space!” Shit that movie actually begins with that reminder on screen for all the dipshits who don’t understand this concept, so that they wont be all confused when all the explosions are silent. But even then the movie is absurd with the whole satellite debris from a botched demolition and then jetpacking around in space and finding the Chinese space station etc etc.
/RANT OVER
uh....why dont u stick with a documentary like cosmos jesus fucking chirst...
you're like the pointdexter during lucy who says "actually we dont use just 10% of our brain" lmao.
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NewbSaibot   United States. Nov 10 2014 20:02. Posts 4943
Bullshit. If Tom Hanks held his breath, crawled outside and jumped from the LEM to the Command module in Apollo 13 you'd give him a free pass because "dude it's a movie"??? If you're going to make a movie that prides itself on using physicists to help direct the film then you dont get to blunder it by allowing the astronauts to just chill orbiting a black hole within eye sight. Either go full fantasy or full reality, you cant have both.
And lucy makes that one argument to set up the remainder of the film which is pure fantasy. Interstellar uses numerous scientific arguments to set up the remainder of the film which is supposed to be potential possibility, two very different things. You cant criticize Lucy because it's not supposed to be taken seriously. But blackholes exist, wormholes might exist, other habitable worlds probably exist, which makes this movie grounded in reality.
bye now
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mnj   United States. Nov 10 2014 20:15. Posts 3848
On November 09 2014 14:46 traxamillion wrote:
It was surprisingly well acted and emotional. I can see how that is a negative for many people but it adds a dimension 2001 never had. Best movie ever though?...
Maybe
This one was a mix of Gravity plus a real movie
Or
2001 plus a drama
interesting view, i actually thought there wasn't enough drama/exploration of relationships in this movie. anne hathaway barely even has a character to play, and the conflicts were a bit silly. it was a fun ride tho, def recommend in imax. didn't think the movie needed the "action" scene either.
i really loved gravity, and thought the exploration of isolation/existentialism tones were very subtle and well conveyed (pretty hard thing to do in a movie imo)
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 10 2014 21:59. Posts 10468
I actually liked gravity too that was just a tongue in cheek comment based on criticism of that movie to give you an idea of what interstellar is like
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 10 2014 22:03. Posts 10468
And newb you can't compare interstellar with Apollo13. One is a biopic on a real past event. Interstellar is just fantasy with ideas rooted in reality. So what if the ship couldn't really fly through the accretion disk or so close. Would you really want to see it orbiting a light year away in empty space? How exciting. It is still a movie meant to entertain and part of that is obviously the spectacle of the cosmos and that imagery
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Bigbobm   United States. Nov 10 2014 22:31. Posts 5511
Watched this over the weekend and not once did I check my watch to see how much time was left. For a movie that's almost 3 hours, and for how fidgety I get sitting in a seat, that's pretty huge.
Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Nov 11 2014 18:34. Posts 6374
On November 08 2014 21:48 NewbSaibot wrote:
Movie was awful, so much junk science I was pulling my hair out. I thought the director took some science classes to have a better understanding of physics and space travel, instead he just got everything wrong from the design of the ship to how it should fly, etc. Mind you I am no physicist, but I've spent a fair amount of time wikipedia'ing concepts for space travel and think I know enough about how bad this movie failed at it. Movie filled with unnecessary plot devices as nothing more than excuses to create the next conflict. I was actually worried when it came in at like 70% on rotten tomatoes, since this movie should have been a 90% or better. That 70% is probably a very generous 70% too given by critics who dont know the first thing about space travel so they are ranking it more on story and drama. Movie is really like a 60%.
I have not proof read my own rant here so it may be filled with typo's and other grammatical errors. Just too pissed
1. The design of the ship is all wrong. Artificial gravity be means of centrifugal force would require a ship 100x that size to properly implement. In order to achieve earth-like gravity you need to rotate at about 1 rpm. The mass of the ship would be something akin to the ring in Elysium to be able to rotate at 1 rpm without making you sick. If you were to subject humans to 15rpm’s or whatever that ship was spinning at everyone would be puking their brains out. Not to mention the fact that with such a tight radius from the center of the ship, gravity would be exponentially worse with every foot you were away from the surface. This means that their feet would experience earth gravity while their heads were feeling maybe 50% of the effect. It would be intolerable. To top it off, the fucking cockpit is rotating with them dead fucking center of the ship. This would mean the pilots experience almost no gravity at all, and of course would just be getting dizzy as fuck. If you’re going to put the cockpit in the center then it should be attached to some kind of wheel so it can spin freely, and thus maintain a stable straight position, since you don’t need gravity while piloting the fucking ship.
2. OMFG with that speaking robot Tars. Was this Nolan’s Jar Jar Binks? Totally unnecessary and incredibly annoying. Aside from the ridiculous design which I’ll give a pass on since maybe NASA has considered a walking rover like this, it has personality? COME ON. We do not need a goofy fucking side-kick cracking one-liners in a drama in order to bring humor to the intensity of it all. Especially once that has mastered all the language and mannerisms of human comedy that he’s indistinguishable from a standup comic. Just completely fucking annoying and pointless.
3. A wormhole placed by aliens or humans from the future, but placed near Saturn? WHY? WHY PLACE IT SO FUCKING FAR AWAY? I’m still not sure who the whole “they” are supposed to be, but at the end it sounds like since Mathew is communicating with himself from the future that humans more or less are responsible for creating this gateway to warn themselves in the past about their demise. Even if I’m completely wrong here, it still makes no sense to place a wormhole in an arbitrary location like right behind Saturn. This is one of those plot devices I speak of, to do nothing other than make it somewhat difficult for humans to get to it and thus introduce struggle.
4. We finally make it to the first planet and they spend all of 15 minutes of movie time there. But before we got to that, this whole preposterous idea of an entire planet being stuck in time dilation. I’m sorry Nolan but that’s not how it fucking works. There’s no such thing as a planet or any other object that just because it orbits a black hole is therefore experiencing time in slow motion. The only potential possibility for this would be a planet traveling at or near lightspeed, which of course would make it impossible to land on, nevermind the fact that any such physical body would basically be destroyed long before reaching that speed. Nevertheless, the crew lands there and fucks up and gets caught in a tidal wave, fine whatever. But then he cant start because “the engines are flooded”?!?! LOL WTF! What is this spacecraft of theirs, a goddamn 60’s drag racer? Ok maybe it has some kind of hybrid atmosphere combusting engine that is more efficient than burning pure rocket fuel. The whole setup is still stupid. And our hero Tars comes to the rescue, if he can fucking cartwheel 30mph across the water then why the fuck didn’t he just do that immediately to save them? In fact why don’t they just ride him around like a fucking go kart wherever they need to go?
5. Matt Damon – I’ll give this a pass because it was kind of exciting, but still a total copout to put a villain in a movie like this. The struggle of making it to the new world and exploring was challenging enough, no need to put a psychopath on board who wants to kill everyone to save himself. Kinda reminds me of the movie “sunshine”. Really mysterious and interesting attempt to reignite the sun, crew stumbles upon old ship which they though was lost from a previous mission, only to discover a ravenous freddy Krueger like badguy trying to kill them all. Just UNNECESSARY.
6. The black hole. For starters, any black hole that you could possible orbit around would have to be at such a great distance to avoid being sucked into it that you couldn’t even see it with the naked eye. You cant just orbit a black hole fucking 100 miles out and look at it every day from your bedroom window. You’d have to orbit it from like a fucking lightyear away or some shit. Whatever, he goes to travel inside of it. Now this is another one of these annoying “zomg what is on the other side?!” questions people think science hasn’t answered. It has. A black hole isn’t a fucking hole. It’s just a goddamn body of mass who’s gravity is so strong light cant escape, hence it looks black. If you were to plunge into it you would be crushed, that’s it. If the gravity were just weak enough to let light escape then it would look like any other spherical body out there. Perhaps it would look like a planet, or maybe a scorching hot bright light. Point is that it doesn’t do anything special. You would be crushed like a pancake and die, that’s it. The only theory behind them is that what if the gravity is so strong that it bends space or time and thus you really could experience something besides death if you traveled into it? Well that’s fine and dandy, but you certainly couldn’t get out of it, so you’re still fucked if you ever go into one.
7. But he dives in and what in the fuck happened next is beyond me. Just some emotional time-rift bullshit communicating with his daughter blah blah fucking blah. Whats wrong with just saying maybe aliens really did send us the message about the wormhole?
You know what a far better wormhole discovery movie is? CONTACT. Which is hilarious because it also stars McConaughey. Humans receive a message from aliens in a very believable fashion, returned via the same source it was sent in through a method that we might figure out, by an aliens species who returns all messages like this whether the recipient gets it or not. We construct a device that we have no comprehension about using their instructions, we visit them, and we come back. Even that movie got the time dilation effect backwards with Jodie experiencing 4 hours and earth experiencing 4 seconds, but besides that one fuckup the movie was great. No badguys (besides the suicide bomber but he didn’t affect anything since they already had a backup portal, plus he only represented about 5 minutes worth of the movie) and a mystery from the perspective of the scientists on ground. The movie made as much sense as can be made when dealing with sci-fi.
Thing is if you cant get the science right then don’t make a sci-fi film that tries so hard to be realistic. Make fucking star trek or star wars or something where it’s the characters and action that drive it forward. If you want to be Kubrick and make the next 2001 then you better know your shit. Reminds me of Gravity which I also hated. “Oh it’s so realistic, there’s no sound in outer space!” Shit that movie actually begins with that reminder on screen for all the dipshits who don’t understand this concept, so that they wont be all confused when all the explosions are silent. But even then the movie is absurd with the whole satellite debris from a botched demolition and then jetpacking around in space and finding the Chinese space station etc etc.
/RANT OVER
A+, agree with ur sentiment, but you are wrong, gravitational time dilatations does exist
the last good nolans was memento. sue me.
the prestige was actually solid as well
I think this move is solid, but saying it is movie of the year is LOL, also it's previous 9.4 and current 9.0 score on imdb is sooooo wrong, this movie is 8 out of 10 tops ;o
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NewbSaibot   United States. Nov 12 2014 22:36. Posts 4943
bye now
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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Nov 12 2014 23:55. Posts 2083