Did Dwan had a $25mln winning day in Macau high-stakes games?

After last months video interview when Tom "durrrr" Dwan admited he has "a huge issue" with FTP regarding his removal from Team Pro, he wasn't getting much attention. Up until now, when someone posted a simple picture from the nosebleed games in Macau, Asian home for the biggest poker games.

There were few rumors about single pots reacing $5,000,000 and the insane stakes of the games, which were reported to be as high as $12,500/$25,000. However, as mentioned, those were only unconfirmed rumors. Up until now, as this picture was posted:

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Tom Dwan is holding at least 25 plaques worth HK$500,000 ($65,000) each in his stack, which makes it at least $2,000,000. Looking at other players stacks, they don't seem shy either.

However, there is still no information about if Tom Dwan really lost $7,000,000 in a single session, just to get re-invited to the game and win back $25,000,000 in one day.

Dunno how much he wins but Dwan seems like a guy that wont reach his 40s

Do American casinos use plaques as well? Or, is that an Asian/European thing?

i imagine they (US players in macau) don't want things like this getting out because of tax implications in the US

just exactly who are guys like dwan playing over there, anyway? rich businessmen is so vague.

On March 10 2014 17:34 Spitfiree wrote: Dunno how much he wins but Dwan seems like a guy that wont reach his 40s

lol xd

On March 10 2014 18:46 chris wrote: just exactly who are guys like dwan playing over there, anyway? rich businessmen is so vague.

iono it's china, you literally have to pay a government employee to do anything business related

Dwan es #1 en ze world!

On March 10 2014 18:47 mnj wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2014 18:46 chris wrote: just exactly who are guys like dwan playing over there, anyway? rich businessmen is so vague. iono it's china, you literally have to pay a government employee to do anything business related

just super rich guys. could be a coal mine owner, could be some businessmen, could be govt ppl (way less likely though)

And Macau could be way different situation (still runs captialism in Macau), even tho rich guys in Mainland will go to Macau every once in a while.

Not sure how many good players are on the table. Doesn't seem like durrrr has much competition haha

1 shark and 8 whales

must be nice to be dwan; would like to know who those other players are. I see a white guy next to him and some early 20s asian kids

like their names would mean something to anyone of you

Wonder if he sells pieces for this one.

White guy next to Dwan looks kind of like Alec Torelli

On March 11 2014 03:14 Trav94 wrote: White guy next to Dwan looks kind of like Alec Torelli

It is him indeed

I've seen the guy on Dwan's left in the Aussie Millions cash games (12 I think? With that retarded commentator you just HAD to mute). Don't remember the name though.

If this is true then I will never understand the inability of these guys to quit the game and live the rest of their lives in some paradisiac island... This game is a true sickness of the mind imo.

On March 11 2014 06:05 Achoo wrote: If this is true then I will never understand the inability of these guys to quit the game and live the rest of their lives in some paradisiac island... This game is a true sickness of the mind imo.

this. Once you have 25M, you really don't need any more money imo. You can easily invest it, and earn 1M+ a year, and that is more than enough to live like a king on some paradisiac island, or do pretty much anything you want.

On March 11 2014 08:48 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2014 06:05 Achoo wrote: If this is true then I will never understand the inability of these guys to quit the game and live the rest of their lives in some paradisiac island... This game is a true sickness of the mind imo. this. Once you have 25M, you really don't need any more money imo. You can easily invest it, and earn 1M+ a year, and that is more than enough to live like a king on some paradisiac island, or do pretty much anything you want.

you always have to do something, have a job, else you go insane doesnt matter how rich you are. its not about money for them anymore i think

25M isnt that much. I mean you can spend that in a single day if you wanted. There's houses in Malibu that cost that much. The kind of wealth that removes all obstacles in life, where you can literally buy anything you want no matter what it is, be it space shuttle, aircraft carrier, entire country, or just create some random business that you want to see succeed like selling poo scented play-doh requires tens of billions. Bill Gates worth. And even then if he just starts giving it away to charity that becomes an expense on its own, and once again billions are easily spendable. Nothing wrong with him driving for more, I'm sure people have asked him "why dont you quit while youre ahead?" a hundred times from his journey to 100k and up.

On March 11 2014 05:07 Defrag wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2014 03:14 Trav94 wrote: White guy next to Dwan looks kind of like Alec Torelli It is him indeed

The guy who posted the picture on 2+2 said it was not alec

On March 11 2014 14:00 Highcard wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2014 05:07 Defrag wrote:   On March 11 2014 03:14 Trav94 wrote: White guy next to Dwan looks kind of like Alec Torelli It is him indeed The guy who posted the picture on 2+2 said it was not alec

100% sure? Looking at Torellis instagram he posts a photos from same casino in Macau.

On March 11 2014 14:00 Highcard wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2014 05:07 Defrag wrote:   On March 11 2014 03:14 Trav94 wrote: White guy next to Dwan looks kind of like Alec Torelli It is him indeed The guy who posted the picture on 2+2 said it was not alec

He (Tom Hall) took it back later and admitted it was indeed alec (he even lost a $5k bet on it because he mixed up the pictures)

The foreigner with the back to the camera with pony tail is Mikael Thuritz, famous Swedish player.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/nosebleed-cash-games-macau-thread-916791/index201.html

discussion starts there somewhere and continue several pages, if someone is really interested

i wonder what it is like to be tom dwan

On March 11 2014 09:35 dnagardi wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2014 08:48 Floofy wrote:   On March 11 2014 06:05 Achoo wrote: If this is true then I will never understand the inability of these guys to quit the game and live the rest of their lives in some paradisiac island... This game is a true sickness of the mind imo. this. Once you have 25M, you really don't need any more money imo. You can easily invest it, and earn 1M+ a year, and that is more than enough to live like a king on some paradisiac island, or do pretty much anything you want. you always have to do something, have a job, else you go insane doesnt matter how rich you are. its not about money for them anymore i think

Ok first, i don't think retired people all go insane. And they doesn't have millions. Obviously, with millions, you can much more easily find interesting things to do (travel, visit things, go out, etc).

I do agree you need to be doing "something", but i'm pretty sure there much more interesting way to spend your time than playing poker a bunch of hours a week. To be honest, 5 years ago, i spent most of my time playing poker, and now thats something that could drive someone insane! I really didn't have a good life back hen. I also did the opposite before, spending a few months just enjoying life (no job, no poker, no school), just watching TV with girlfriend, going out, etc, and i had plenty of fun. And that was with a limited budget.

On March 11 2014 11:02 NewbSaibot wrote: 25M isnt that much. I mean you can spend that in a single day if you wanted. There's houses in Malibu that cost that much. The kind of wealth that removes all obstacles in life, where you can literally buy anything you want no matter what it is, be it space shuttle, aircraft carrier, entire country, or just create some random business that you want to see succeed like selling poo scented play-doh requires tens of billions. Bill Gates worth. And even then if he just starts giving it away to charity that becomes an expense on its own, and once again billions are easily spendable. Nothing wrong with him driving for more, I'm sure people have asked him "why dont you quit while youre ahead?" a hundred times from his journey to 100k and up.

The thing is, you absolutly don't need those 25 millions houses or space shuttles to live an happy life. Of course, humans always want more, but i think 25 millions is more than enough to do most of everything you want, which isn't just retarded unneeded luxury.

On March 11 2014 18:20 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2014 09:35 dnagardi wrote:   On March 11 2014 08:48 Floofy wrote:   On March 11 2014 06:05 Achoo wrote: If this is true then I will never understand the inability of these guys to quit the game and live the rest of their lives in some paradisiac island... This game is a true sickness of the mind imo. this. Once you have 25M, you really don't need any more money imo. You can easily invest it, and earn 1M+ a year, and that is more than enough to live like a king on some paradisiac island, or do pretty much anything you want. you always have to do something, have a job, else you go insane doesnt matter how rich you are. its not about money for them anymore i think Ok first, i don't think retired people all go insane. And they doesn't have millions. Obviously, with millions, you can much more easily find interesting things to do (travel, visit things, go out, etc). I do agree you need to be doing "something", but i'm pretty sure there much more interesting way to spend your time than playing poker a bunch of hours a week. To be honest, 5 years ago, i spent most of my time playing poker, and now thats something that could drive someone insane! I really didn't have a good life back hen. I also did the opposite before, spending a few months just enjoying life (no job, no poker, no school), just watching TV with girlfriend, going out, etc, and i had plenty of fun. And that was with a limited budget.

Pretty big difference in mindset between retired person who has worked 40+ years and some who has made millions in their 20's.

On March 11 2014 18:23 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2014 11:02 NewbSaibot wrote: 25M isnt that much. I mean you can spend that in a single day if you wanted. There's houses in Malibu that cost that much. The kind of wealth that removes all obstacles in life, where you can literally buy anything you want no matter what it is, be it space shuttle, aircraft carrier, entire country, or just create some random business that you want to see succeed like selling poo scented play-doh requires tens of billions. Bill Gates worth. And even then if he just starts giving it away to charity that becomes an expense on its own, and once again billions are easily spendable. Nothing wrong with him driving for more, I'm sure people have asked him "why dont you quit while youre ahead?" a hundred times from his journey to 100k and up. The thing is, you absolutly don't need those 25 millions houses or space shuttles to live an happy life. Of course, humans always want more, but i think 25 millions is more than enough to do most of everything you want, which isn't just retarded unneeded luxury.

Well it just depends what makes you happy. If durrr wants to fund the next mars mission, poof his entire net worth is gone.

He's not playing for the money but for the entertainment. To reach the skill level Dwan is at you need to have a ton of interest in the game, and just because you get rich that won't change, so he obviously still plays for fun. Poker is his hobby, rich or not

On March 11 2014 17:30 Balzamon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2014 14:00 Highcard wrote:   On March 11 2014 05:07 Defrag wrote:   On March 11 2014 03:14 Trav94 wrote: White guy next to Dwan looks kind of like Alec Torelli It is him indeed The guy who posted the picture on 2+2 said it was not alec He (Tom Hall) took it back later and admitted it was indeed alec (he even lost a $5k bet on it because he mixed up the pictures) The foreigner with the back to the camera with pony tail is Mikael Thuritz, famous Swedish player.

That is good to know because I was so sure like everyone else, damn tom hall, must have old man eyes

rich chinamen go to macau to launder their money(i was told it was not "legal" to take money out of china. They have a fixer in china who arranges everything for them in macau. almost always they "lose" money there but now have a couple millions outside of china. a friend of mine whos based in macau working at a hotel casino told me about this. makes sense though.

The "sickness" is called passion.

Dwan keeps playing poker for the same reason that Kobe kept playing Basketball after he was rich, Iron Maiden still tour, wealthy business owners run their corporation until they die without retiring, authors keep writing even after a best seller, actors keep acting, etc. etc.

No amount of money can pay for the feeling they get when they're owning it at their craft.

this one time... i shook toms hand.. and i was like.. awwwww

On March 12 2014 01:33 whamm! wrote: rich chinamen go to macau to launder their money(i was told it was not "legal" to take money out of china. They have a fixer in china who arranges everything for them in macau. almost always they "lose" money there but now have a couple millions outside of china. a friend of mine whos based in macau working at a hotel casino told me about this. makes sense though.

And Durrr would be the rake ?

On March 11 2014 21:49 skirmisher wrote: He's not playing for the money but for the entertainment. To reach the skill level Dwan is at you need to have a ton of interest in the game, and just because you get rich that won't change, so he obviously still plays for fun. Poker is his hobby, rich or not

On March 11 2014 21:49 skirmisher wrote: He's not playing for the money but for the entertainment. To reach the skill level Dwan is at you need to have a ton of interest in the game, and just because you get rich that won't change, so he obviously still plays for fun. Poker is his hobby, rich or not

This. I think the main reason people question it though is because Dwan seems to go at it in an unhealthy lifestyle manner. Consistently talking about not sleeping for days playing. Always has a sleep deprived look about him.

My hero. I don't think it's crossing his mind what players think he's not great anymore or never was great.