PokerStars Game #71320307315:  Holdem No Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2011/11/29 13:49:55 CET [2011/11/29 7:49:55 ET]
Table Notburga III 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: barrao ($496 in chips) 
Seat 2: wobbly_au ($1088.50 in chips) 
Seat 3: mustanggino ($797 in chips) 
Seat 4: lucasmuzel ($393 in chips) 
Seat 5: GabrielMoyaa ($1025 in chips) 
Seat 6: Joeik ($1065 in chips) 
Joeik: posts small blind $5
barrao: posts big blind $10
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Joeik 
 
wobbly_au: folds 
mustanggino: folds 
lucasmuzel: folds 
GabrielMoyaa: raises $15.75 to $25.75
Joeik: calls $20.75
barrao: folds 
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $61.50)
    

 
Joeik: checks 
GabrielMoyaa: bets $39.20
Joeik: calls $39.20
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $139.90)
    


 
Joeik: checks 
GabrielMoyaa: bets $200
Joeik: calls $200
River (Pot : $539.90)
    



 
Joeik: checks 
GabrielMoyaa: bets $760.05 and is all-in
Joeik: calls $760.05
Showdown
GabrielMoyaa: shows 
  (four of a kind, Queens)
Joeik: shows 
  (a full house, Queens full of Jacks)
GabrielMoyaa collected $2057 from pot
Summary
Total pot $2060 | Rake $3 
Board  




Seat 1: barrao (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: wobbly_au folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: mustanggino folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: lucasmuzel folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: GabrielMoyaa (button) showed 
  and won ($2057) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: Joeik (small blind) showed 
  and lost with a full house, Queens full of Jacks
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                            Joe   Czech Republic. Nov 29 2011 07:53. Posts 5987 |    |  |  | 
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                          | there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) |   |  
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                            EvilSky      Czech Republic. Nov 29 2011 08:05. Posts 8918 |    |  |  
                            I dont see how this can be a good calldown... also why no 3b pre?  |  
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                            Joe   Czech Republic. Nov 29 2011 08:15. Posts 5987 |    |  |  | 
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                          | there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) |   |  
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                            Joe   Czech Republic. Nov 29 2011 08:16. Posts 5987 |    |  |  
                            no 3b pre mostly because bb is a shortstacker with high squeeze.  |  
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                            rememp   Canada. Nov 29 2011 08:27. Posts 480 |    |  |  
                            When you check river how many people actually throw a shove bluff in after getting cold called $200 on the turn. He has 1010+ almost exclusively imo.  |  
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                            EvilSky      Czech Republic. Nov 29 2011 08:37. Posts 8918 |    |  |  
                            I think you lose too much value pre by flatting, I mean you are still gonna be getting it in good vs any of them when you 3b here sb vs bu. I think if you want to protect your calling range there its another thing but to trap I think is losing value. 
 
Postflop just combining the scary overbetting, the fact that you can have a bunch of Qx in your range there and the fact that he can have even more Qx... I dont know what dynamic you have but looking at it cold it looks like an insane spot to bluffcatch.   |  
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                            dogmeat   Czech Republic. Nov 29 2011 10:48. Posts 6374 |    |  |  
                            his fold to 3b is like 85+%  |  
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                            EvilSky      Czech Republic. Nov 29 2011 10:51. Posts 8918 |    |  |  
                            probably much lower in BU vs SB tho  |  
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                            evilsky your wrong 
 
fold river because this is rarely a bluff, and also no one folds on this river in your position, so it would be foolish to assume hes leveling you.  |  
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                            Baalim   Mexico. Nov 30 2011 10:38. Posts 34305 |    |  |  
                            easy fold even if our hand is very underrepresented the guy is a nit, he isnt bluffing here and never overbetting for value with worse.  |  
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                            EvilSky      Czech Republic. Nov 30 2011 11:54. Posts 8918 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  November 30 2011 07:18  casinocasino wrote: 
evilsky your wrong 
 
fold river because this is rarely a bluff, and also no one folds on this river in your position, so it would be foolish to assume hes leveling you.  |  
 
  
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