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Handnr: 914773
Submitted by : the cleaner

PokerStars Game #65514371842: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/08/04 10:09:32 ET
Table Rimito V 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: rodders27 ($171.25 in chips)
Seat 2: the clêaner ($129.15 in chips)
Seat 3: 16sully ($84.50 in chips)
Seat 4: BeNoFrog ($111.85 in chips)
Seat 5: corintur ($110.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Benezia ($75 in chips)
rodders27: posts small blind $0.50
the clêaner: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to the clêaner TdKd
16sully: folds
BeNoFrog: raises $2 to $3
corintur: folds
Benezia: folds
rodders27: calls $2.50
the clêaner: raises $11 to $14
BeNoFrog: folds
rodders27: calls $11

Flop (Pot : $31.00)

   7hJcAs
rodders27: checks
the clêaner: checks

Turn (Pot : $31.00)

   7hJcAsAh
rodders27: checks
the clêaner: bets $19.50
rodders27: raises $25.50 to $45
the clêaner: raises $70.15 to $115.15 and is all-in
rodders27: folds
Uncalled bet ($70.15) returned to the clêaner
the clêaner collected $118 from pot

Summary
Total pot $121 | Rake $3
Board  7hJcAsAh
Seat 1: rodders27 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: the clêaner (big blind) collected ($118)
Seat 3: 16sully folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: BeNoFrog folded before Flop
Seat 5: corintur folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Benezia (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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gororokgororok   Netherlands. Aug 04 2011 10:24. Posts 3940

the ATs hand. First of all i'm not sure why you squeesh preflop. I open early position and a 30bb stack fish is calling me. You squeesh ATs OOP (while his hand has some playable value postflop). Everytime you get it in vs the fish you are behind or flipping imo. I 4bet your squeesh IP. I hardly can have air here since I know the fish is in as well, and most regs dont squeeshbluff with a 30bb fish in. Fish folds and you snapship it in. Ok you spike an Ace on the flop and win but you're in terrible shape everytime you get called. And your fold equity in that spot is not enough to make up for it, since im not often 4betbluffing in that spot. Based on that hand and more history between us, I think you have serious fancy play syndrom issues. I showed you the nuts every time last month and yet you keep making light calls, shoving it in to light. Adjust dude.

Also your preflop sizing was to big, but its not that much of an issue, you shipping it in without thinking is more of an issue i think.

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the cleaner   Germany. Aug 04 2011 10:53. Posts 3014

hey marco. agree that the hand was played terribly. there are some parts i disagree with you tho.

it was 5 handed so i regarded your open as mp instead of utg, especially since you have a huge fish on the left and likely want to get into some hands with him.

as for the squeeze i don't think it's that bad, but we differ regarding fishes stacking off range. i have fishies stats on 53/16, and i don't mind allin preflop vs him.

My preflop betsizing was way to big considering that the other player in the hand was a 30bb fish i should have made it smaller like 11.50$ or 12$. The moment i made the squeeze i realized my mistake and thought u realized it too. That actually led me to believe that you could be 4betting me lighter then usual, and you do 4bet pretty light. So I think I overvalued my FE once I shoved ATs.

the hand was played poorly by me, but not as bad as you make it look like in your reply. I think a reasonable range for you in that spot is


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 67.553% 66.58% 00.98% 205201200 3007980.00 { 99+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 32.447% 31.47% 00.98% 96997560 3007980.00 { ATs }

anyways, always appreciate your criticism, since i think you are a very solid player and i have learned alot from your replies.




there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 04/08/2011 11:05

gororokgororok   Netherlands. Aug 04 2011 11:13. Posts 3940

A loose passive fish means im usually open a bit tighter actually. I rather have a somewhat stronger range vs a loose passive fish OOP because I know I won't take it down often preflop and he's peeling any pair on the flop.
When i'm 4betting for value in that spot my range is tighter. Its JJ+ and AK. Jacks i often call as well to stack the fish postflop. Queens i want to get it in.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.168% 69.21% 00.96% 156425952 2171364.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 29.832% 28.87% 00.96% 65255448 2171364.00 { ATs }

It doesn't differ much but still you get it in with less then 30%. That I 4bet bluff a lot, but not in this spot. In this spot my 4bet range is like 95% value.


the cleaner   Germany. Aug 04 2011 11:20. Posts 3014

ok thanks dude. agree it was pretty bad. peace

there are no facts only interpretations 

patti   United States. Aug 04 2011 12:49. Posts 550

wish i had this kind of opportunity, friendship

<3 to both of you


the cleaner   Germany. Aug 04 2011 12:55. Posts 3014

thanks patti

there are no facts only interpretations 

 

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