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Handnr: 912927
Submitted by : longple

***** Hand History for Game 1582887420 ***** Boss
$5000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, July 18, 08:42:34 ET 2011
Table Julia 2 Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: longple1 $10000.00 USD
Seat 2: DareU2Move $10360.00 USD
Seat 3: övningen $18910.04 USD
Seat 4: NotaBene $2721.38 USD
Seat 5: smekt $5884.07 USD
DareU2Move posts small blind [$25.00 USD].
övningen posts big blind [$50.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to longple1 [2d4d ]
NotaBene folds
smekt folds
longple1 raises [$143.75 USD]
DareU2Move raises [$462.50 USD]
övningen folds
longple1 calls [$343.75 USD]

Flop (Pot : $1,000.00)

   8d2s5c
DareU2Move bets [$650.00 USD]
longple1 raises [$1400.00 USD]
DareU2Move calls [$750.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $3,800.00)

   8d2s5cAc
DareU2Move checks
longple1 checks

River (Pot : $3,800.00)

   8d2s5cAc5d
DareU2Move bets [$3100.00 USD]
longple1 calls [$3100.00 USD]
longple1 shows 2d4d
DareU2Move shows 9d7d
longple1 wins $10010.00 USD from main pot

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longple    Sweden. Jul 18 2011 16:47. Posts 4470

connected to the other AT hand, i start to feel better and better about my rivercall

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longple    Sweden. Jul 18 2011 16:48. Posts 4470

just cant see him snapvaluebet Ax floats or QQ here, what is he getting called by?


n0rthf4ce    United States. Jul 18 2011 16:50. Posts 8119

this is the most impressive hand uve posted in a while imo . from my perspective it looks like his value range is wider than his bluffing range, so it must've been some specific read that he does not vb 99+ or float A hi on flop too often

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EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 18 2011 16:53. Posts 8915


  On July 18 2011 15:48 longple wrote:
just cant see him snapvaluebet Ax floats or QQ here, what is he getting called by?


2d4d


longple    Sweden. Jul 18 2011 16:54. Posts 4470

if my range is gonna be straightdraws or sets basically (what i think he expect my range to be with our 500hand history)

combined with the fact that he almost never has air here i just cant fold here when i give him credits to be a decent handreader

how can i call him here? mean why snapvaluebet even if he has AK or AA or what ever when he knows i cant call unless i have some random A4s that decided to randomly check back that turn


n0rthf4ce    United States. Jul 18 2011 16:55. Posts 8119

in his spot i always valuebet. vs a good opponent it isn't so much worrying about what you get called by in a spot like this but its valuebetting to protect all our flop floats and putting pressure on our opponent when his range is clearly weak.

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longple    Sweden. Jul 18 2011 16:58. Posts 4470

yea i normally valuebet aswell since i expect people to not bluff with their 7 highs etc since its such an obvious spot

but i just dont see the point of almost potting it, why not target my "rare" 99 tricky type of hands and bet like atleast a little bit smaller

 Last edit: 18/07/2011 17:01

TheHuHu3   United States. Jul 18 2011 17:02. Posts 5544

So if he bet like $1800 here do you still call?

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

longple    Sweden. Jul 18 2011 17:03. Posts 4470

probably not


longple    Sweden. Jul 18 2011 17:05. Posts 4470

the best size against me here would be like 500 ;D


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jul 18 2011 17:06. Posts 8633

don't want to tard up one of your awesome hands but i have a question about your flop raise, i understand it's probably a combination of protecting your immediate equity with a vulnerable hand + having cool disguised backdoor stuff and being deep if you get called, my question is where you draw the line between calling and raising on a board like this...like would you call or raise 75ss? A5hh? 86hh? etc...

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 18/07/2011 17:07

n0rthf4ce    United States. Jul 18 2011 17:12. Posts 8119


  On July 18 2011 16:06 bigredhoss wrote:
don't want to tard up one of your awesome hands but i have a question about your flop raise, i understand it's probably a combination of protecting your immediate equity with a vulnerable hand + having cool disguised backdoor stuff and being deep if you get called, my question is where you draw the line between calling and raising on a board like this...like would you call or raise 75ss? A5hh? 86hh? etc...

on a dry board like this its ok to raise all of those. 86ss would be more tipped towards value whereas 24 here is more for reasons you stated in your post but its difficult for him to 3b the flop here with any real hand.

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Jul 18 2011 17:13. Posts 8119

fwiw i just call here with my entire range as that fits better for my range and gameplan. but to each his own.

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longple    Sweden. Jul 18 2011 17:20. Posts 4470

this deep with position i just like clicking buttons with a wide range mostly the random backdoor stuff + showing up with really wierd stuff on some runners

its nice to take control of the pot

and i would probably with a A5s hand for example, be more inclined to call to let him continue with all his dominated Ax hands / valuebet them when he hit + bluff them with his air etc etc, pretty standard stuff =)


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jul 18 2011 17:31. Posts 8633

nice, ty both!

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Elite00   United States. Jul 18 2011 19:30. Posts 683

when did longple get a green star? Well deserved imo


Oddeye   Canada. Jul 18 2011 20:13. Posts 4762

that is very impressive, good reads


MiPwnYa    Brasil. Jul 18 2011 21:56. Posts 5227

almost makes me wanna play nlhe again : )


ManofFire   United Kingdom. Jul 18 2011 22:20. Posts 140


  On July 18 2011 20:56 MiPwnYa wrote:
almost makes me wanna play nlhe again : )



i think at the end of it all nlhe and plo are more or less the same game.
only plo is like 4x the variance and 8x as quick.

but srsly this hand made me want to throw up in a bucket.

I don't think I would ever think of a call here in 6 max (even though it being deep does help a bit.)

So sick I want to puke a billion times.

 Last edit: 18/07/2011 22:21

locoo   Peru. Jul 18 2011 23:26. Posts 4545

actually i think NLHE and PLO play veeeery different, PLO is like a fullring NLHE table, you gotta either nutpeddle hard or play like a crazy maniac to make a decent profit

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

Defrag   Poland. Jul 19 2011 03:53. Posts 4808


  On July 18 2011 18:30 Elite00 wrote:
when did longple get a green star? Well deserved imo


just few days ago


 

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