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Handnr: 911574
Submitted by : longple

***** Hand History for Game 1575137207 ***** Boss
$5000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, July 05, 12:32:46 ET 2011
Table Julia Turbo 2 Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: longple1 $17290.63 USD
Seat 2: FRÖLUNDA $11680.00 USD
Seat 3: Baverx $5927.62 USD
Seat 4: siken $16259.74 USD
Seat 5: jen_jer $1935.76 USD
longple1 posts small blind [$25.00 USD].
FRÖLUNDA posts big blind [$50.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to longple1 [KdQd ]
Baverx raises [$150.00 USD]
siken folds
jen_jer folds
longple1 calls [$125.00 USD]
FRÖLUNDA raises [$600.00 USD]
Baverx calls [$500.00 USD]
longple1 calls [$500.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $1,900.00)

   QcKc7c
longple1 bets [$1100.00 USD]
FRÖLUNDA raises [$3750.00 USD]
Baverx folds
longple1 raises [$15540.63 USD]
FRÖLUNDA calls [$7280.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $23,960.00)

   QcKc7c9h

River (Pot : $23,960.00)

   QcKc7c9h4d
longple1 shows KdQd
FRÖLUNDA shows 4cAc
FRÖLUNDA wins $23995.00 USD from main pot
longple1 wins $5610.63 USD

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longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 08:40. Posts 4472

everyday i get tilted over how fucking bad people are at poker, what is this guy doing

why would any1 wanna squeeze from BB here with A4s against a 100bb stack open from a guy that opens 17% raisefirst UTG (5handed), i completing the SB, he has like the easiest completion ever, especially against this UTG opener he dosnt fold to 3bets at all basically, this is so bad

he is a nit also, how can some1 snap squeeze this spot

trying to make sense of this hand, he should have 0% flushes in this spot, getting facepalmowned once again ^_^ gotta stop count on HS regs haveing brains

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 Last edit: 05/07/2011 08:43

player999   Brasil. Jul 05 2011 08:51. Posts 7978

When I realized ppl are very very stupid and stopped assuming they have any kind of thought process, that's when I started to win at poker

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 08:53. Posts 4472

i know 90% of them are really stupid but wtf, how can some1 see this spot and think yey lets squeeze the nit with the best multiway completionhand in the deck


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 05 2011 08:53. Posts 8915

I prefer calling with A4s here but a lot of regs will add this hand to their squeezing range regardless of position, opponents etc

Flop is a bit interesting tho even if we discount flushes a lot, it seems getting it in here is like 50% but I dont know if there is a more profitable line...


longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 08:55. Posts 4472

i like leading here and not let him checkback hands like JJ TT AQ AK AA etcetcetc with or without club

not sure if stacking here is very good, not haveing supergoodEQ against his stacking offrange here wich will be AcQ, AcK,AcA and KK QQ

think he can raisefold some% but this sizing dosnt look very foldy

 Last edit: 05/07/2011 09:00

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 05 2011 08:57. Posts 8915

Yea I mean its obv +EV but Id rather not flip for 2bi if there is a more profitable line :d


longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 09:01. Posts 4472

though i had more EQ against AcK, stoved it and its bassically a flip so im kinda changing my mind about snapstacking here

still think i like leading and not let him check all those JJTT w c and AK AA AQ w/o club, wich isnt really folding to floplead, not vs me i lead more then any1 else i think =)

 Last edit: 05/07/2011 09:03

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 05 2011 09:03. Posts 8915

I think you still gotta account for at least some %bluff so you are at worst flipping here but if he isnt likely to 3b bluff isnt a c/r better especially with the 100bb behind him to act?


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 05 2011 09:06. Posts 8915

lol we are like editing and replying to old version of the posts


longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 09:08. Posts 4472

haha ye lets just stop ;D


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 05 2011 09:08. Posts 8915

well I dont actually edit, I just spam posts like who cares Ive got 7,5k posts and maybe 50 out of those that mean anything... bah


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 05 2011 09:13. Posts 15163

I think you will find this hand in nit's squeezing range a decent amount of the time. I watched one (Alan Jackson) on Bluefire who is a true nit but played up to 5/10 and his core squeezing range starts with something like
JJ+, AJs+, A5s-A2s, 98s, 87s, 76s, AQo+

If he thinks he won't play well postflop when he's oop on the PFR he will just think squeezing with the bluffing range above has higher EV and squeeze with it, although I doubt squeeze has higher EV than a flat when it's 3way and he's got position on you and over 220bb eff with you unless he thinks he will be outclassed postflop, they just do it as standard no need to think too hard in-game right?

93% Sure!  

longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 09:14. Posts 4472

atleast u care to respond and post and analys stuff!

i like ur posts


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 05 2011 09:17. Posts 8915

actually having 220 bbs is the only good reason for the squeeze imo, it plays much better when deep but I still think flatting, esp with the 100bb opener behind is better.


longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 09:23. Posts 4472

ya he wont flat really often and the hands he will flat is AJs AQ alot, and when he does flop an ace he wont get value from him anyways when he has 99 etc, and im not flatting oop against him if baverx folds at all basically, maybe i setmine alittle since he is bad and nitty but its really not a winwinsituation for him in any situation since i wont really have a hand that can continue multiplestreets, the hands i will flat against that guy is gonna be pockets and just give up if i dont flop anything


longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 09:33. Posts 4472

and yes i agree if PFR were deeper im all for juicing up the pot in this spot with a hand like this


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 05 2011 09:36. Posts 15163

Guys I have a question, there was this lengthy discussion on DC and basically...

You are in a spot like the BB is in. You have A4s.
You think in that moment for whatever reasons that squeezing will have slightly higher EV than flatting (you seem nitty didn't squeeze yet, you suck in 3way pot, whatever.) but both are +EV

But your hand is pretty much perfect for a 3way pot, and if you constructed a balanced range over the long run A4s would most likely be in the flatting part of it, squeeze just has higher EV right now.

Would you flat or squeeze?

93% Sure! Last edit: 05/07/2011 09:36

longple    Sweden. Jul 05 2011 09:40. Posts 4472

if ur bad at poker and are a bad handreader/plays bad postflop, squeeze i guess, if ur good at poker flat and play good poker

and this is not rage against this guy in this hand, i guess i dont hate his decision as much as i think he will get alot of credits here and will pick up a small/middleish pot a decent amount of the time here without making decisions postflop

 Last edit: 05/07/2011 09:44

TilICollapse   United States. Jul 05 2011 11:12. Posts 218

Even if your default is to flat, what's wrong with squeezing a small percentage of the time just for the sake of balance? I mean next time you get in a similar squeeze pot you'll know he can have all kinds of flushes and draws in his range, and you don't really know how often he's squeezing vs flatting.

Of course I'm just talking out if my ass and he probably just squeezed to make the hand easier to play, but I do think it makes you harder to play against if you squeeze some of the time.


ShaperofDreams   Canada. Jul 06 2011 03:40. Posts 438

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