PokerStars Game #53297660974:  Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2010/11/26 9:58:01 ET
Table Semirot 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kingh0lli ($100 in chips) 
Seat 2: x100kx ($121.40 in chips) 
Seat 3: bohrey ($49.85 in chips) 
Seat 4: pai mai23 ($197.10 in chips) 
Seat 5: starwin00 ($105.50 in chips) 
Seat 6: the clêaner ($124.40 in chips) 
x100kx: posts small blind $0.50
bohrey: posts big blind $1
Holecards
Dealt to the clêaner 
 
 
pai mai23: folds 
starwin00: raises $2 to $3
the clêaner: calls $3
kingh0lli: folds 
x100kx: folds 
bohrey: folds 
Flop (Pot : $7.50)
    

 
 
starwin00: bets $5
the clêaner: calls $5
Turn (Pot : $17.50)
    


 
 
starwin00: checks 
the clêaner: checks 
River (Pot : $17.50)
    



 
 
starwin00: bets $12
the clêaner: raises $22 to $34
starwin00: raises $63.50 to $97.50 and is all-in 
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                            |  | the cleaner   Germany. Nov 26 2010 10:05. Posts 3014 |  |  |  | | the dude plays very nitty, dont think he even has many 8´s in his hand  | 
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                            |  | LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 26 2010 10:14. Posts 15163 |  |  |  | | Isn't our hand too strong to try to rep a busted draw on river? | 
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                            |  | johnmagi   Norway. Nov 26 2010 10:14. Posts 1424 |  |  |  | | Then hes prob trapping you on the turn by checking a FH | 
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                            |  | LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 26 2010 10:15. Posts 15163 |  |  |  | | Why would you check the turn otherwise I don't get it. | 
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                            |  | the cleaner   Germany. Nov 26 2010 10:44. Posts 3014 |  |  |  | | cause i want to get value from QJ/KJ/TT/99  type of hands, and he is very nitty and probably just folds them on turn  | 
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                            |  | the cleaner   Germany. Nov 26 2010 10:49. Posts 3014 |  |  |  | | actually i think i should have just bet the turn and stop getting tricky. | 
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                            |  | Fujikura   United States. Nov 26 2010 10:56. Posts 1795 |  |  |  | | I'm confused... isn't there only 5 combinations of hands that beat us here? | 
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                            |  | Fujikura   United States. Nov 26 2010 10:56. Posts 1795 |  |  |  |  |  | | aka SouL)Z(Isadie and SouL)P(Fujikura |  | 
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                            |  | Maynard!   United States. Nov 26 2010 11:03. Posts 4453 |  |  |  | | 
 
 |  | On  November 26 2010 09:44  the cleaner wrote: cause i want to get value from QJ/KJ/TT/99  type of hands, and he is very nitty and probably just folds them on turn
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 Then float him with garbage alot and steal. Don't get tricky and cute with your big hands.
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 |  | | Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. |  | 
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                            |  | qwerty67890   New Zealand. Nov 26 2010 11:07. Posts 14026 |  |  |  | | he would bet the turn with aa,kk,qq
 he would check jj because the 8 is his money card, now he hopes a diamond falls and cleaner makes his flush, that way he'll bet strong and he'll beat him with his jacks full over eights.
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                            |  | the cleaner   Germany. Nov 26 2010 11:19. Posts 3014 |  |  |  | | 
 |  | On  November 26 2010 10:03  Maynard! wrote: 
 
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  On  November 26 2010 09:44  the cleaner wrote:cause i want to get value from QJ/KJ/TT/99  type of hands, and he is very nitty and probably just folds them on turn
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 Then float him with garbage alot and steal. Don't get tricky and cute with your big hands.
 
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 yea i probably float him more with air and steal on turn then legitimate hands, that´s why i definetly think i should have bet turn with trips. thanks
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                            |  | lucifer   Sweden. Nov 26 2010 11:22. Posts 5955 |  |  |  | | sooo. just me that bets turn with JJ as villain?
 
 this hand is pretty much the perfect example of why.
 
 
 edit: nice quads?
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 |  | | On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get it | Last edit: 26/11/2010 11:30 | 
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                            |  | CrownRoyal   United States. Nov 26 2010 11:29. Posts 11386 |  |  |  | | 
 |  | On  November 26 2010 10:07  byrnesam wrote: he would bet the turn with aa,kk,qq
 
 he would check jj because the 8 is his money card, now he hopes a diamond falls and cleaner makes his flush, that way he'll bet strong and he'll beat him with his jacks full over eights.
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 loooooooooooooooooooool
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                            |  | the cleaner   Germany. Nov 26 2010 11:31. Posts 3014 |  |  |  | | 
 |  | On  November 26 2010 10:22  lucifer wrote: sooo. just me that bets turn with JJ as villain?
 
 
 this hand is pretty much the perfect example of why.
 
 
 edit: nice quads?
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 i would bet most of the time with JJ too if i was villain.
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                            |  | lucifer   Sweden. Nov 26 2010 11:38. Posts 5955 |  |  |  | | Ya, think byrnes post confused me. | 
 |  | | On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get it |  | 
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                            |  | LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 26 2010 12:13. Posts 15163 |  |  |  | | 
 |  | On  November 26 2010 09:44  the cleaner wrote: cause i want to get value from QJ/KJ/TT/99  type of hands, and he is very nitty and probably just folds them on turn
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 Yeah the strongest hand I like this with is like KJ if you really don't think you are getting action, AJ+ is just too strong to check
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                            |  | bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 26 2010 12:24. Posts 8649 |  |  |  | | 
 |  | On  November 26 2010 10:38  lucifer wrote: Ya, think byrnes post confused me.
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