PokerStars Game #21024256862:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/10/08 9:04:24 ET
Table 'Arethusa II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Hero  ($51 in chips) 
Seat 2: issisoul ($11.60 in chips) 
Seat 3: naurelius ($25.85 in chips) 
Seat 4: Mnkp ($23.15 in chips) 
Seat 5: Dodo26 ($25 in chips) 
Seat 6: epine63 ($22.10 in chips) 
Mnkp: posts small blind $0.10
Dodo26: posts big blind $0.25
Holecards
Dealt to Hero  
 
epine63: folds 
Hero : raises $0.75 to $1
issisoul: folds 
naurelius: calls $1
Mnkp: folds 
Dodo26: folds 
Flop (Pot : $2.35)
    

 
Hero : bets $2
naurelius: raises $5 to $7
Hero : folds 
Uncalled bet ($5) returned to naurelius
naurelius collected $6.05 from pot
Summary
Total pot $6.35 | Rake $0.30 
Board  


Seat 1: Hero  folded on the Flop
Seat 2: issisoul folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: naurelius (button) collected ($6.05)
Seat 4: Mnkp (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Dodo26 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: epine63 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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                            fakk   Estonia. Oct 08 2008 09:08. Posts 93 |    |  |  
                            Don't have much of history with him yet. had like only 23 hands played with him, so I decided I give up just in case... ok? :s  |  
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                            SfydjkLm   Belarus. Oct 08 2008 09:11. Posts 3810 |    |  |  
                            in case he raises with flush and straight draws?  |  
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                            TianYuan      Korea (South). Oct 08 2008 09:13. Posts 6817 |    |  |  
                            I think having no history with him should make you like your hand more.  |  
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                            cariadon   Estonia. Oct 08 2008 09:15. Posts 4019 |    |  |  | 
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                            fakk   Estonia. Oct 08 2008 09:17. Posts 93 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:13 TianYuan wrote: 
I think having no history with him should make you like your hand more.  |  
 
  
What I meant was that I don't know how he plays his hands yet. |  
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                            fakk   Estonia. Oct 08 2008 09:19. Posts 93 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:11 SfydjkLm wrote: 
in case he raises with flush and straight draws?  |  
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more like in case he has a set/twopair. with oesfd we would be flipping pretty much.. |  
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                            TianYuan      Korea (South). Oct 08 2008 09:23. Posts 6817 |    |  |  
                            Maybe he has QJo and thinks it's the nuts. 
 
I think folding on the flop here is bad. 
EDIT: Would you fold KK? QQ? Yeah, they are slightly different but not if you think he has "OESFD, set or two-pair". 
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                          | Hm.. Off-suite socks.. | Last edit: 08/10/2008 09:23 |  
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                            SfydjkLm   Belarus. Oct 08 2008 09:26. Posts 3810 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:19 fakk wrote: 
Show nested quote +
  On  October 08 2008 08:11 SfydjkLm wrote: 
in case he raises with flush and straight draws?   |  
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more like in case he has a set/twopair. with oesfd we would be flipping pretty much..
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download pokerstove and use it to assign ranges and see how you do vs them. Dont just look at worst case scenarios. 
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                            fakk   Estonia. Oct 08 2008 09:27. Posts 93 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:23 TianYuan wrote: 
Maybe he has QJo and thinks it's the nuts. 
 
I think folding on the flop here is bad. 
EDIT: Would you fold KK? QQ? Yeah, they are slightly different but not if you think he has "OESFD, set or two-pair". 
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true. 
maybe I'm just acting too cautious due to losing some buyins today with similar hands getting it in.. |  
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                            fakk   Estonia. Oct 08 2008 09:31. Posts 93 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:26 SfydjkLm wrote: 
Show nested quote +
  On  October 08 2008 08:19 fakk wrote: 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:11 SfydjkLm wrote: 
in case he raises with flush and straight draws?  |  
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more like in case he has a set/twopair. with oesfd we would be flipping pretty much.. 
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download pokerstove and use it to assign ranges and see how you do vs them. Dont just look at worst case scenarios. 
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I don't need to do that, when I know 75% of the time in NL25 a flop raise means a set/twopair/overpair + I can't assign a range to a guy who I just met. |  
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                            SfydjkLm   Belarus. Oct 08 2008 09:35. Posts 3810 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:31 fakk wrote: 
Show nested quote +
  On  October 08 2008 08:26 SfydjkLm wrote: 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:19 fakk wrote: 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:11 SfydjkLm wrote: 
in case he raises with flush and straight draws?  |  
  ' 
more like in case he has a set/twopair. with oesfd we would be flipping pretty much..
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download pokerstove and use it to assign ranges and see how you do vs them. Dont just look at worst case scenarios. 
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I don't need to do that, when I know 75% of the time in NL25 a flop raise means a set/twopair/overpair + I can't assign a range to a guy who I just met.  |  
 
  
youre wrong. In fact i would bet its profitable to shove over here, youll get called more then enough by worse hands such as flush and straight draws and bad jacks. |  
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                          | *wink wink* | Last edit: 08/10/2008 09:36 |  
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                            fakk   Estonia. Oct 08 2008 09:37. Posts 93 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:35 SfydjkLm wrote: 
Show nested quote +
  On  October 08 2008 08:31 fakk wrote: 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:26 SfydjkLm wrote: 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:19 fakk wrote: 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:11 SfydjkLm wrote: 
in case he raises with flush and straight draws?  |  
  ' 
more like in case he has a set/twopair. with oesfd we would be flipping pretty much..
  |  
  
download pokerstove and use it to assign ranges and see how you do vs them. Dont just look at worst case scenarios. 
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I don't need to do that, when I know 75% of the time in NL25 a flop raise means a set/twopair/overpair + I can't assign a range to a guy who I just met.   |  
 
  
youre wrong. In fact i would bet its profitable to shove over here, youll get called more then enough by worse hands such as flush and straight draws and bad jacks.  |  
 
  
I do sincerely hope I am wrong. ^_^ |  
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                            TianYuan      Korea (South). Oct 08 2008 12:59. Posts 6817 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:31 fakk wrote: 
Show nested quote +
  On  October 08 2008 08:26 SfydjkLm wrote: 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:19 fakk wrote: 
 |   |  On  October 08 2008 08:11 SfydjkLm wrote: 
in case he raises with flush and straight draws?  |  
  ' 
more like in case he has a set/twopair. with oesfd we would be flipping pretty much..
  |  
  
download pokerstove and use it to assign ranges and see how you do vs them. Dont just look at worst case scenarios. 
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I don't need to do that, when I know 75% of the time in NL25 a flop raise means a set/twopair/overpair + I can't assign a range to a guy who I just met.  |  
 
  
I think you are way wrong about how often it's a hand like that but I haven't played NL25 in forever. 
 
However, if you don't want to get it in on flop, call and c/r turn AI. 
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