PokerStars Game #12915886842:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2007/10/29 - 10:27:33 (ET)
Table 'Velleda IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: krrrt ($10.05 in chips) 
Seat 2: alfixena ($17.05 in chips) 
Seat 3: ttaaxxii ($18.85 in chips) 
Seat 4: KwarK_uK  ($11.45 in chips) 
Seat 5: Ganesch84 ($10.30 in chips) 
Seat 6: KissMyAcePlz ($10.10 in chips) 
krrrt: posts small blind $0.05
alfixena: posts big blind $0.10
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to KwarK_uK  
 
 
ttaaxxii: raises $0.20 to $0.30
KwarK_uK : raises $0.60 to $0.90
Ganesch84: calls $0.90
KissMyAcePlz: raises $1.90 to $2.80
krrrt: folds 
alfixena: folds 
ttaaxxii: folds 
KwarK_uK : calls $1.90
Ganesch84: calls $1.90
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $8.85)
    

 
 
KwarK_uK : checks 
Ganesch84: checks 
KissMyAcePlz: bets $3
KwarK_uK : raises $5.65 to $8.65 and is all-in
Ganesch84: folds 
KissMyAcePlz: calls $4.30 and is all-in
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $23.45)
    


 
 
River (Pot : $23.45)
    



 
 
Showdown
KwarK_uK : shows 
 (two pair, Kings and Nines)
  (two pair, Kings and Nines)
KissMyAcePlz: shows 
 (a full house, Kings full of Nines)
  (a full house, Kings full of Nines)
KissMyAcePlz collected $22.30 from pot
Summary
Total pot $23.45 | Rake $1.15 
Board  




Seat 1: krrrt (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: alfixena (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: ttaaxxii folded before Flop
Seat 4: KwarK_uK  showed 
 and lost with two pair, Kings and Nines
  and lost with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 5: Ganesch84 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: KissMyAcePlz (button) showed 
 and won ($22.30) with a full house, Kings full of Nines
  and won ($22.30) with a full house, Kings full of Nines
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                            |  | KwarK   United Kingdom. Oct 29 2007 08:34. Posts 1019 |  |  |  | | Was this avoidable or inevitable? I played this hand to hit an A or K, there was no way I was hitting and not shoving. | 
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                            |  | newbie.cjb   United States. Oct 29 2007 08:36. Posts 3096 |  |  |  |  |  | | my lose is a win.  my wins are nothing. |  | 
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                            |  | KwarK   United Kingdom. Oct 29 2007 08:41. Posts 1019 |  |  |  | | With AKo? Surely I'll lose far more that way. Only hands that'd call that have me beat. If I reassess on the flop I can decide whether I have lesser hands (QQ, JJ, AQ, KQ etc) beat before I commit fully. | 
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                            |  | lucifer   Sweden. Oct 29 2007 08:42. Posts 5955 |  |  |  | | dont ever call pf.
 
 like newbie said. fold or push.
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 |  | | On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get it |  | 
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                            |  | Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Oct 29 2007 08:45. Posts 3943 |  |  |  | | in 6max yes...
 its like luci and newbie said fold or push.
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                            |  | Yugless    United States. Oct 29 2007 08:46. Posts 7174 |  |  |  | | fold pf unless this player does this a lot in which case go allin.  he made a really really strong move | 
 |  | | Baal - look is talking hah. |  | 
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                            |  | KwarK   United Kingdom. Oct 29 2007 08:47. Posts 1019 |  |  |  | | Can you explain in more depth or link me to an explanation? What hands should I be shoving with pf? When? etc | 
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                            |  | lachlan   Australia. Oct 29 2007 08:48. Posts 6991 |  |  |  | | hey guys just curious, why would u push here? in case he's 3 betting light?
 i mean the guy is right, AK is fucked against a normal 3bet hand, wouldnt that be just putting your chips on the table for them?
 
 i woulda thought instant-fold here unless he has whack stats
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                            |  | Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Oct 29 2007 08:49. Posts 3943 |  |  |  | | FR and 6max are diffrent Lach. | 
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                            |  | lachlan   Australia. Oct 29 2007 08:49. Posts 6991 |  |  |  | | ah ok no worries, thanks deadman. i suck at 6max hehe | 
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                            |  | TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 29 2007 08:51. Posts 6817 |  |  |  | | He 4bet cold pre, if you think he's a complete donkey - push, otherwise fold. I'd usually fold here I think.
 
 
 |  | On  October 29 2007 07:41 KwarK wrote: With AKo? Surely I'll lose far more that way. Only hands that'd call that have me beat. If I reassess on the flop I can decide whether I have lesser hands (QQ, JJ, AQ, KQ etc) beat before I commit fully.
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 Cause any king or ace is going to scare TT-QQ and obv wont scare KK-AA.
 
 So you push cause he folds some hands he shouldn't fold/calls some hands you are a flip vs/calls some hands you dominate (more likely if he sucks, ie calling with AQ) and you still lose vs AA and KK just as when you call to hit a flop.
 
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 |  | | Hm.. Off-suite socks.. | Last edit: 29/10/2007 08:53 | 
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                            |  | lachlan   Australia. Oct 29 2007 08:52. Posts 6991 |  |  |  |  |  |  | 
 
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                            |  | TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 29 2007 08:54. Posts 6817 |  |  |  | | I was going through my drawer about 7-8 months ago and I found 2 odd socks - first thought was "off-suite socks" -.- | 
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                            |  | Yugless    United States. Oct 29 2007 08:55. Posts 7174 |  |  |  | | 
 |  | On  October 29 2007 07:48 lachlan_fearn wrote: instant-fold here unless he has whack stats
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 this is correct, it doesnt matter how many players are at the table
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 |  | | Baal - look is talking hah. |  | 
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