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terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 05 2010 09:34. Posts 13829
how can I Try so hard for over a month and this keeps going and going and I don't know where I keep folding away my money in nonshowdown either, I mean every player isn't some kind of super sicko who's shoving over my 3rd barrels 100% of the time with air or turning a weaker TPTK into a bluff or something what the fuck? SERIOUSLY.

lol did you enjoy that ramble? that's my brain now.



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SpasticInk   Sweden. Apr 05 2010 09:50. Posts 6298

5 stars


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Apr 05 2010 09:57. Posts 8623

tbh I've never had a red line to be proud of.


terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 05 2010 09:58. Posts 13829

that's comforting to know but i think mine is still a lil lower than is possible to sustain a winning green line

i don't know :/


rgfdxm   United States. Apr 05 2010 09:59. Posts 1514

Tighten up imo, that's the way to reduce nonshowdown loss that no one likes to talk about because it's more "manly" to play 25/22. Once you're winning then you can start working toward loosening up. Trying to play a wide preflop range from the get-go will probably force you to learn faster but you will lose money and you'll be a lot more vulnerable to variance. Sounds like your variance tolerance has had about all it can take already.

If you're already playing 17/15 or something then don't mind me.

 Last edit: 05/04/2010 10:00

def_jammer   Germany. Apr 05 2010 10:02. Posts 1227

yah this is how my red line looks when iam loosening up too much


terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 05 2010 10:02. Posts 13829

i'm playing 21/18/4.8% 3bet over this sample


def_jammer   Germany. Apr 05 2010 10:03. Posts 1227

hm ok this sucks. atleast you made some rakeback


rgfdxm   United States. Apr 05 2010 10:05. Posts 1514

21/18 is much more reasonable than 25/22 but honestly I would give 17/15 a try. Having a stronger (i.e. tighter) range helps with confidence issues (in my experience), and is easier to play when your confidence is low too.


terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 05 2010 10:07. Posts 13829

these are my stats if anyone owuld be kind enough to comment

I know I'm folding to 3bets too much, but what can I do? 4 out of 5 times I 4bet light in this sample I got 5bet'd (well, one of those 4 times the guy flat called me with QQ.)



I've been trying to play SUPER tight


made dick-all for rakeback, its nl50

 Last edit: 05/04/2010 10:09

rednalluk   Sweden. Apr 05 2010 10:16. Posts 626

You're not folding to 3bet too much if everyone has a 3b% of 3. I'd like to see your turn cbet%, if it differs too much it might be a leak.
Other than that, i feel like rgfblabla gave some solid advice.

Edit: Just noticed you have a 7.5% call v 3bet. How did you manage that? If I saw someone who folded 92.5% vs 3bets you know what I'd do until they adjusted. Maybe call some instead of 4betting?


terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 05 2010 10:27. Posts 13829

everytime I've posted a hand where I called a 3b with KQ I get berated, or is that not what you mean

i'm down 9buyins in this sample when filtered for "Faced 3bet preflop", -5bi when adjusted for EV, and -2.5bi in nonshowdown winnings

what hands should I call 3bets with in co and btn vs the blinds (Who seem to 3bet loose)? what hands should I Call 3bets with in UTG, MP, CO vs the button if they seem to c-bet loose?

 Last edit: 05/04/2010 10:41

GoTuNk   Chile. Apr 05 2010 10:57. Posts 2860

At pokerstars people in nl50 3bet a lot from SB/BB. To counter i'm just raising smaller from CO/BU so u can afford to fold/call more depending on their 3bet size.


the cleaner   Germany. Apr 05 2010 11:08. Posts 3014

What sample size are those stats ?

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 05/04/2010 11:29

SpasticInk   Sweden. Apr 05 2010 11:10. Posts 6298

your aggression frequencies seems quite low? maybe you need to play more aggressively, barrel more in right spots and so on


Chewits   United Kingdom. Apr 05 2010 11:12. Posts 2539

Your aggression % is quite low. Are you check calling too much and folding to later streets too often?

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 05 2010 11:14. Posts 11625

watch 3 year old cardrunner vids. i think the cycle has ended and we're back to playing tight aggressive(19/16) again to beat the games at lowstakes haha


Chewits   United Kingdom. Apr 05 2010 11:16. Posts 2539


  On April 05 2010 10:14 whamm! wrote:
watch 3 year old cardrunner vids. i think the cycle has ended and we're back to playing tight aggressive(19/16) again to beat the games at lowstakes haha



Makes alot of sense really.

I am a degen. Do not believe in any of my advice. 

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Apr 05 2010 11:16. Posts 8918

You can get away with playing 4b/fold oop but in position you can and need to call more, if you play 4b/fold IP you are negating any postflop edge you have. Good hands to call with depend on the opponent, flatting KQ ip is good against almost everyone but the nittiest players. You can polarize your 4b range ip to hands you wanna stack off with and garbage u cant call with, to randomize it you can 4b bluff when u got AXo that not a broadway and something like K8,K9,K7 and the occasional suited gappers that you cant call with.Of course its situational and shouldnt be taken too literally but its a good way to look at it in general. Also you should focus a bit more on improving postflop and pay less attention to preflop, to get that WonWSF closer to 50 cuz I think 42 is too low.


the cleaner   Germany. Apr 05 2010 11:33. Posts 3014

his aggression frequencies seem fine to me. flop cbet seems a bit low. what is your turn cbet % ? call 3bet % is definetly to low. should be in the 20-25% range.

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