Closing on the first night... -WTF-

this is hardly an issue, it seems like your doing it the right way. maybe in the back of your mind you know loose girls have higher chance of issues (crazy + stds being the leading 2). plus girls who take longer to get just intrinsically have more value just because it took that much longer to woo.

It's like I have some sort of weird mental block that prevents me from just pulling the trigger.

It's even kinda frustrating now, going out with friends and watching them just start groping the shit out of women and end up with them as well is like 'wtffffff doooooood'

On June 14 2009 13:13 jasper5408 wrote: this is hardly an issue, it seems like your doing it the right way. maybe in the back of your mind you know loose girls have higher chance of issues (crazy + stds being the leading 2). plus girls who take longer to get just intrinsically have more value just because it took that much longer to woo.

I do understand this, but I'll admit there are occasions where I find a really cute girl, but she is from way out of state and is only here because of her friend. In these situations I want to be able to close, I don't want to go after the loose chubby friend who is all over everyone. But the ones that I know I'll probably never see again and would totally be worth hooking up with.

It's not an issue unless you want it to be. I'm an anti-fan of one-night stands...

If you're trying and not succeeding, you're doing something wrong or the girl is just isn't fit for that kind of stuff (not all of them are total sluts afterall).

I don't think that the problem is with you here, tbh.

Maybe just a small sample size? Keep trying if you want it to happen

Not all girls are down with one night stands, but you have sick equity if alcohol is added and you can dance.

sick sick equity indeed. All this means is you haven't been making big enough moves on girls. Your sample size is large enough unless you never leave your basement. Go for broke with those girls you will never seen again is what I am saying.

Looking back at my first day closers I think it's just a matter of aggression and keeping the tone sexual. Also, the girls who I fucked the first night were always girls I'd never want to date. It's pretty easy to tell which girls are down to fuck right away. For me it usually happened while traveling or visiting a place for a day or two. In that situation if there was a really beautiful girl who was more high class and showing interest in me, but there was also a sexy girl who was kinda slutty, I'd just give my attention to the slutty one cause you can tell they will fuck and I knew I was never gonna see the high class one again anyway.

My rule of thumb used to be that if I really liked the girl I'd go for a kiss close on the first day (which usually happened) but if it was a girl who I could only see myself fucking, I'd just keep the aggression on.

honestly, there's no easy answer or explanation to this. It's kind of like when someone asks you to teach them to be good at poker. First you gotta teach em odds, then starting hands, then betting patterns, etc. The best general advice I can give for closing on the first day is to be very laggy.

Haha I read the op and thought you were describing me....but like K2 said I think its just being aggressive and keep the mouthing/playfulness on a sexual level.