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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 04 2009 15:25. Posts 15163
Hey guys,
I changed from Starcraft and facebook poker to the real thing. So far I found out why all the starcraft players are so successfull at poker - hours of training, strategy forums and lots of theorycrafting before the actual game and the mixture of the two are very in both games.
But my macro suddenly doesn't make a total outsider out of me anymore and I actually believe I have a chance to get some more benefits than fun out of gaming.


Anyway, my questions are:
Bankroll: In Micro stakes 0.01/0.02 NL, how much should I buy in for?

I play 2-3 tables and usually stick with the $1, but the majority of people have $2-$5 when they come in.
My bankroll is ~ $48 atm. Should I move up the stakes or buy-in on 0.01/0.02 tables for $2, or keep playing the same stakes with $1?.


I play poker for 5 days, went down to $30 from $50 starting bonus on Poker Room School playing SitnGoes to get to CDPoker (as PRS cash tables were down all the time) and made it up to $46 in one day on NL 0.01/0.02.

I play 2-3 tables because I took the LP beginners advice to play extra tight/aggresive style and when I raise 3x min with good hand, others almost always fold so I actually play only very few hands.

Could you answer my questions and comment on what I am doing right or wrong?

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93% Sure! Last edit: 04/02/2009 15:34

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 04 2009 15:29. Posts 15163

Oh and another question:

Should I keep my account on CDpoker in Dollars or my local currency (£). Dollars would allow me better bankroll management, but when I see my 'real' money in 'real' currency I always remember that I play for real and think through all moves. And it is somewhat more motivational to see that I can buy myself exactly a beer in local pub with the amount I added in my last session

93% Sure! Last edit: 04/02/2009 15:32

Kingsane   Israel. Feb 04 2009 15:39. Posts 159

I Would Keep to 2-3 tables
It's always recommanded that u buy-in for the full amount at ANY table
i advise you to play 6max , u can also play like 4 tables as a SS if you're good at it and try to double it at each table..
dont try to outthink/outplay ppl at these stakes have basicly no idea what they're doing
If you see that alot of ppl respect you at a table you can open up ur raising range or start 3 betting players
GL


Chewits   United Kingdom. Feb 04 2009 15:41. Posts 2539

You should always sit down with the max amount of chips you can, and if you loose some chips in a pot, you should add more chips to get you to max buyin amount again. With 0.01/0.02 NL, the max you can sit down with, I believe is $2.

If you are very new, you should get a much bigger bankroll of 30-50 buy ins possibly, or even more. (so 2x50=$100 etc..)

Read articles here on this site about bankroll management, and every other article too. Lots of valuable information.

Good luck.

I am a degen. Do not believe in any of my advice. 

Motiva   United States. Feb 04 2009 15:42. Posts 104

Sounds like a decent plan.

I'd buy in for 100 big blinds ($2 at .01/.02) and move up when you have 20+ buy ins at the next level ($100 move to NL5)

 Last edit: 04/02/2009 15:44

Kingsane   Israel. Feb 04 2009 15:44. Posts 159

Oh and Rakeback dude , its SOOO important at micro stakes
definately have a good rake deal ( dunno where u'r playing )


rANDY   United Kingdom. Feb 04 2009 16:02. Posts 2223

You shouldn't ALWAYS sit down with the maximum, you want to buy in with the maximum if you believe you are a winning player in the game, as then you maximize your profitability vs weaker players, by being as deep as possible (their mistakes will have the potential to cost them more, which is the same for you, but this will not happen as often if you are better than them).

Don't move up stakes just because your bankroll allows you to, wait until you know you are winning at NL2 ($0.01/$0.02) and feel confident, and then if your bankroll allows, you may move up to the next level. Don't judge yourself to have enough skill to move up just after a few sessions, as there is a lot of variance in poker so it could be that you are just on a hot streak, look to play about 10,000 hands to get an idea (3 tabling this will be about 30+ hours). When you move up to NL5 the skill difference is not very different from NL2, so you may not need to put in as many hands to know you have sufficient skill to move up.

A safe number of buyins to have before moving up would be about 30, most people use 20 at low stakes.

To answer the currency question, that is just down to personal preference.

Hope this helped yO


Uptown   . Feb 04 2009 16:11. Posts 3557

about rakeback: you need to set it up WHEN you make your acct. It can't be added aftewards.


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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 04 2009 16:45. Posts 15163


  On February 04 2009 15:02 rANDY wrote:
You shouldn't ALWAYS sit down with the maximum, you want to buy in with the maximum if you believe you are a winning player in the game, as then you maximize your profitability vs weaker players, by being as deep as possible (their mistakes will have the potential to cost them more, which is the same for you, but this will not happen as often if you are better than them).

Don't move up stakes just because your bankroll allows you to, wait until you know you are winning at NL2 ($0.01/$0.02) and feel confident, and then if your bankroll allows, you may move up to the next level. Don't judge yourself to have enough skill to move up just after a few sessions, as there is a lot of variance in poker so it could be that you are just on a hot streak, look to play about 10,000 hands to get an idea (3 tabling this will be about 30+ hours). When you move up to NL5 the skill difference is not very different from NL2, so you may not need to put in as many hands to know you have sufficient skill to move up.

A safe number of buyins to have before moving up would be about 30, most people use 20 at low stakes.

To answer the currency question, that is just down to personal preference.

Hope this helped yO


Thanks Randy!

And Yeah, I just found out.

I tried the buyin for $3 and he called my all-in with JJ before the flop when he had A4 off suit ( I knew he was way too aggresive loose player). And losing $3 put of $46 is too discouraging at this stage for me I will just stick with $1 and play like
5k hands.

I yet need to understand how to deal with those loose aggresive players and Multitablers who only call with AK. The $3 loss was painful, its actually a fricking whole beer, while $1 is nothing for me. ;o

  On February 04 2009 15:11 Uptown wrote:
about rakeback: you need to set it up WHEN you make your acct. It can't be added aftewards.





I play on CDPoker and have $100 bonus dolars pending, so I will leave it when I get enough rakeback points to claim it.

93% Sure! Last edit: 04/02/2009 16:51

Chewits   United Kingdom. Feb 04 2009 16:47. Posts 2539


  On February 04 2009 15:02 rANDY wrote:
You shouldn't ALWAYS sit down with the maximum, you want to buy in with the maximum if you believe you are a winning player in the game, as then you maximize your profitability vs weaker players, by being as deep as possible (their mistakes will have the potential to cost them more, which is the same for you, but this will not happen as often if you are better than them).

Don't move up stakes just because your bankroll allows you to, wait until you know you are winning at NL2 ($0.01/$0.02) and feel confident, and then if your bankroll allows, you may move up to the next level. Don't judge yourself to have enough skill to move up just after a few sessions, as there is a lot of variance in poker so it could be that you are just on a hot streak, look to play about 10,000 hands to get an idea (3 tabling this will be about 30+ hours). When you move up to NL5 the skill difference is not very different from NL2, so you may not need to put in as many hands to know you have sufficient skill to move up.

A safe number of buyins to have before moving up would be about 30, most people use 20 at low stakes.

To answer the currency question, that is just down to personal preference.

Hope this helped yO



Good advice. Go with this man

I am a degen. Do not believe in any of my advice. 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 04 2009 17:33. Posts 6374

hi !!

ban baal 

boreHM   Netherlands. Feb 04 2009 18:00. Posts 1595


  On February 04 2009 15:45 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
I tried the buyin for $3 and he called my all-in with JJ before the flop when he had A4 off suit ( I knew he was way too aggresive loose player). And losing $3 put of $46 is too discouraging at this stage for me I will just stick with $1 and play like
5k hands.

I yet need to understand how to deal with those loose aggresive players and Multitablers who only call with AK. The $3 loss was painful, its actually a fricking whole beer, while $1 is nothing for me. ;o



Wow that hand should've cost you at least another two beers because of all the celebrating. Getting it in with JJ against A4 preflop seems to me something you'd want all day... except maybe if you're maynard or edzwoo


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 04 2009 18:11. Posts 15163


  On February 04 2009 17:00 boreHM wrote:
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Wow that hand should've cost you at least another two beers because of all the celebrating. Getting it in with JJ against A4 preflop seems to me something you'd want all day... except maybe if you're maynard or edzwoo


Yeah its great, would have been even better if the Ace didn't come on River!
I felt like a child who just got the candy taken away.

93% Sure! Last edit: 04/02/2009 18:19

 



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