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edzwoo   United States. Nov 03 2008 10:47. Posts 5911 | | |
I cannot beat NL25. It sucks when you kill half your roll playing it, grind up like $300~ in SNGs to get rolled for it again, constantly get rivered over and over and over until you're down almost 10 buyins.


Here are some interesting statistics for my last 8000 hands in NL25:
My biggest losing hand is AKo (lol set magnet) at -$77.70
There are only 4 pocket pairs that I profit with.

Rofl at set < oversets and draws.
And to top it off, I can't even look at my holdem manager allin EV graph and feel better about being good and just unlucky because hands like this don't count:
Submitted by : edzwoo
PokerStars Game #21724037853: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/11/03 9:52:58 ET
Table 'Anacostia IV' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: droppie75 ($7.40 in chips)
Seat 4: LiLZhiMiNG ($26.70 in chips)
Seat 5: edzwoo ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: Duff@Poker ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: U.S.Tuermer. ($23.45 in chips)
Seat 8: Lornk ($25 in chips)
Seat 9: Ninja_Gambit ($34 in chips)
U.S.Tuermer.: posts small blind $0.10
Lornk: posts big blind $0.25
loescha: sits out
VolkerRachow: sits out
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to edzwoo 
Ninja_Gambit: calls $0.25
droppie75: calls $0.25
LiLZhiMiNG: folds
edzwoo : raises $1.25 to $1.50
Duff@Poker: folds
U.S.Tuermer.: folds
Lornk: folds
Ninja_Gambit: calls $1.25
droppie75: calls $1.25
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.85)
  Ninja_Gambit: bets $0.75
droppie75: calls $0.75
edzwoo : raises $4.25 to $5
Ninja_Gambit: calls $4.25
droppie75: folds
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $15.60)
   Ninja_Gambit: bets $2
edzwoo : raises $7 to $9
Ninja_Gambit: calls $7
River (Pot : $33.60)
    Ninja_Gambit: bets $10
edzwoo : calls $9.50 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.50) returned to Ninja_Gambit
Showdown Ninja_Gambit: shows  (a straight, Five to Nine)
edzwoo : mucks hand
Ninja_Gambit collected $50.05 from pot
Summary Total pot $52.60 | Rake $2.55
Board     
Seat 2: droppie75 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: LiLZhiMiNG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: edzwoo mucked 
Seat 6: Duff@Poker (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: U.S.Tuermer. (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Lornk (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Ninja_Gambit showed  and won ($50.05) with a straight, Five to Nine
And hands like this are, "WOAH, I CAN'T CALCULATE 3WAY ALL INS SO I'M GONNA SAY YOU GOT MAD LUCKY AT GETTING MONEY ON THIS ONE":
Submitted by : edzwoo
PokerStars Game #21719764642: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/11/03 3:16:26 ET
Table 'Palamedes IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: PiS.AA ($51.05 in chips)
Seat 2: CUbuffs818 ($11.40 in chips)
Seat 3: levoson ($11.25 in chips)
Seat 4: crapschick ($19.90 in chips)
Seat 5: IpityU ($21.15 in chips)
Seat 6: stakrw ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 7: Edo_the_kid ($14.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Sky1967 ($37.85 in chips)
Seat 9: edzwoo ($55.65 in chips)
levoson: posts small blind $0.10
crapschick: posts big blind $0.25
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to edzwoo 
IpityU: raises $0.25 to $0.50
stakrw: folds
Edo_the_kid: folds
Sky1967: calls $0.50
edzwoo : calls $0.50
PiS.AA: calls $0.50
CUbuffs818: calls $0.50
levoson: folds
crapschick: folds
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.85)
  IpityU: bets $1
Sky1967: calls $1
edzwoo : raises $3 to $4
PiS.AA: folds
CUbuffs818: folds
IpityU: raises $3 to $7
Sky1967: calls $6
edzwoo : raises $13 to $20
IpityU: raises $0.65 to $20.65 and is all-in
Sky1967: calls $13.65
edzwoo : calls $0.65
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $64.80)
   Sky1967: bets $16.70 and is all-in
edzwoo : calls $16.70
River (Pot : $98.20)
   
Showdown Sky1967: shows  (a pair of Queens)
edzwoo : shows  (three of a kind, Eights)
edzwoo collected $33.40 from side pot
IpityU: shows  (three of a kind, Tens)
IpityU collected $61.80 from main pot
Summary Total pot $98.20 Main pot $61.80. Side pot $33.40. | Rake $3
Board     
Seat 1: PiS.AA folded on the Flop
Seat 2: CUbuffs818 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: levoson (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: crapschick (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: IpityU showed  and won ($61.80) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 6: stakrw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Edo_the_kid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Sky1967 showed  and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 9: edzwoo showed  and won ($33.40) with three of a kind, Eights
I know I have leaks and of course have a lot to learn, but I really don't understand why I'm losing at NL25. Am I just running bad and getting coolered all over the place like I think I am, or am I doing something horribly wrong?
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Sheitan   Canada. Nov 03 2008 11:10. Posts 4217 | | |
top 3 sessions you play 13/7. you're a nit, open up your game. Also you misplayed that KK hand, your raise is improper. |
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Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt | |
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lachlan   Australia. Nov 03 2008 11:41. Posts 6991 | | |
PokerStars Game #21724037853: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/11/03 9:52:58 ET
Table 'Anacostia IV' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: droppie75 ($7.40 in chips)
Seat 4: LiLZhiMiNG ($26.70 in chips)
Seat 5: edzwoo ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: Duff@Poker ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: U.S.Tuermer. ($23.45 in chips)
Seat 8: Lornk ($25 in chips)
Seat 9: Ninja_Gambit ($34 in chips)
bad table selection |
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LiLZhiMiNG   Australia. Nov 03 2008 12:14. Posts 637 | | |
hahahaha nah I'm a fish man, I have also been getting owned at 25NL lately....nomore shots at 50NL either...but my graph different to yours edzwoo....my EV is +ve but actual winnings is like 10BI -ve -_-; hate running bad...this month I'm -ve 4BI in all-in EV for 25NL over 9k hands...but yeah see you on the tables edzwoo |
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Funktion   Australia. Nov 03 2008 12:48. Posts 1638 | | |
I decided to do a challenge of winning 10 BI at each level starting at NL25 yesterday, thinking this will only take a few hours. I now want to kill myself. My normal level is NL100 and NL200, I only play 6max:

So don't feel to bad. At least you can improve, I am stuck with my luck. So close at 5k hand mark, so close. |
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rockman255   Canada. Nov 03 2008 15:44. Posts 4471 | | |
this is my life trying to shoot at nl100
so if you are hating nl25, get used to this for later shots
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rockman255: its not easy being superman U N0 MySteeZ: mega man. rockman255: same thing U N0 MySteeZ: no | |
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k4ir0s   Canada. Nov 03 2008 15:52. Posts 3480 | | |
I know what you mean, I've been doing pretty bad at 25nl lately to. Its so depressing...The weird thing is, when I was more of a fish, I played like 15/12 at 25nl FR and won 15bb/100 over ~15k hands, maybe we just have to open up our game? Also have you tried playing less tables?(4-6) |
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I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly | Last edit: 03/11/2008 16:06 |
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reggiemiles   United States. Nov 04 2008 03:26. Posts 133 | | |
standard variance.
shove turn hand #1
standard cooler hand 2
I ran into quads once and had set over set twice in my last session...and still made 2 buy-ins
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Funktion   Australia. Nov 04 2008 06:22. Posts 1638 | | |
| On November 04 2008 02:26 reggiemiles wrote:
standard variance.
shove turn hand #1
standard cooler hand 2
I ran into quads once and had set over set twice in my last session...and still made 2 buy-ins
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Get back to me when you run into not only 2 set over sets blind vs blind but also flop nut straight twice and lose to runner runer fullhouse twice. Or flop sets twice and lose to runner runner flush twice. All in under 2k hands. Enjoy. |
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