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RiKD  United States. Aug 04 2023 03:42. Posts 8557 | | |
All efforts to live lead to death (Byung-Chul Han)
Everything we agonize over and everything we don't leads to death. So, let us live in spite of this. What do we work for?
I'd say most of us work for pleasure, entertainment, "fun." It's not great. It is also not like double the work equals double the pleasure. So, we are left empty handed (for the most part). Pleasure is fleeting. Circus is only satiable in certain amounts. So, what happens when I exploit myself for pleasure and the pleasure does not hit right?
Resentiment. Burnout. Depression.
Then, there is the question of how serious the narcissist problem is with me?
I don't think it is that serious but I do like some admiration and attention. I am self-centered too. These blogs are very self-referential and self-absorbed.
But, mostly I am tired. I can't afford to move slow at work. Why not?
At least I can move slow off the clock. What if I was working for virtue instead of pleasure? What would that look like?
I have very few pleasures and I exploit myself overly at work. I think it is a fallacy to look for MORE and/or BETTER pleasure. The question is how do I exploit myself less at work and have more of the Other in my life. The Other is not behind a computer screen. I have to do the work. I have to leave the house.
Even if all these efforts to live lead to death. Everything leads to death. It's what we can find before death that matters. Whether that is being remembered for the good which I do think matters more than any fleeting pleasures. I've been in this city for 7 years now and I think that it is hitting me that a lot of it feels like a waste. No one wants to feel like their life was a waste or that their life is a waste or their life is going to be a waste. On one hand it feels like it all is not that important but on the other hand it feels deathly important. I want to feel better alone doing nothing but at the same time I want friends and The Other. Byung-Chul Han says that man could not dance before they were bored of walking. Sometimes I have to be lying down in my bed slowly looking out the window to truly feel content or think of something new but really my bedroom is too confining. I really should be walking in the right surroundings. A crowded beach is too crowded. I would love to traverse the Alps but those are in Europe so I settle with my neighborhood typically which isn't a terrible walk.
I don't think I am going to get Baldur's Gate 3. Just another slot machine to try and feel a certain way. Going out with friends I suppose is a slot machine in some sense but it feels real. There is breadth and depth there. These people are complicated, interesting humans that should not be compared to a video game.
The Wings of Desire (Der Himmel uber Berlin)
Melancholia
Anomalisa
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So death is inevitable. This Han guy is something else. |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Aug 04 2023 22:29. Posts 5299 | | |
You'd be surprised at how many apparently smart people think they can escape death lmao. |
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RiKD United States. Aug 05 2023 01:35. Posts 8557 | | |
Yeah, between transhumanism and therapies to thwart disability and aging and also somewhat crazy to me is doing stuff like uploading consciousness. I don't think any of that saves people from getting hit by a bus or hari kari to the digestive organs though. Probably Besos, Musk, and Zuck all think there are invinvible. I am sure many others in that category of billionaire. I don't know. We could probably see someone live to 150 years old in my lifetime if I live relatively long enough. |
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RiKD United States. Aug 05 2023 01:47. Posts 8557 | | |
and I'll throw in a Nietzsche quote about dancing just because I am on that vibe.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. ? Friedrich Nietzsche
Oh humanity! Dancing is definitely a vibe.
Give me about 5 units of alcohol, good speed, great MDMA and I will show you how to dance. I mean I can dance sober especially if I am bored of walking but man I am a dancing MACHINE on drugs! |
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RiKD United States. Aug 05 2023 01:50. Posts 8557 | | |
Also, someone get me an AI girlfriend trained on my favorite philosophers. It would get me like that movie Her. |
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RiKD United States. Aug 05 2023 01:57. Posts 8557 | | |
I'm so lonely I could probably fall for a good chatAI. I am doing my best to be strong in my lonliness but that only goes so far. I can rationalize and say I am contemplative lingering in the down times but that only works for so long. I want dates and more. I am not content to just walk the alps and write and do everything alone. It would be pretty powerful if it worked. To just be alone and content all of the time. That seems unreasonable. I think it helps if the goal isn't pleasure. There are no unlofty expectations. I don't want to try to be strong and alone. I want to just be alone and strong without trying. I think that also in turn attracts more people: friends and dates and girlfriends. |
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RiKD United States. Aug 05 2023 02:09. Posts 8557 | | |
Is service to mankind worth it?
What is "worth it"? |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Aug 05 2023 02:58. Posts 5299 | | |
| | On August 05 2023 00:35 RiKD wrote:
Yeah, between transhumanism and therapies to thwart disability and aging and also somewhat crazy to me is doing stuff like uploading consciousness. I don't think any of that saves people from getting hit by a bus or hari kari to the digestive organs though. Probably Besos, Musk, and Zuck all think there are invinvible. I am sure many others in that category of billionaire. I don't know. We could probably see someone live to 150 years old in my lifetime if I live relatively long enough. |
It seems like a natural lifecycle of most political systems that once power is concentrated enough, the people at the top will start directing the economy towards the goal of escaping death. Lenin's view of late-stage capitalism as being imperialism was actually the early and middle stage. He didn't really have the imagination for how crazy things could get.
Silicon Valley isn't really that different from the Chinese Emporer's or Pharoah's that tried the same thing imo. I'm not sure about the billionaire's that you mention but I think Larry page and Sergey Brin, and Ray Kurzweil are all definitely into this religion.
Silicon Valley is a polytheistic society. You can choose to believe one of these religions:
-escape death by downloading mind onto a computer
-escape death by genetics + computer download
-universe is a sim
-A.I. will acheive AGI quite soon and kill us all
-A.I. will acheive AGI quite soon and serve us all
-Everything can be explained by information theory, code, data, ect
The only one that seems plausible is AGI related stuff, but that's only if you define AGI to be something like "better at humans at most tasks".
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