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need $200 stars for ftp monies by [GiTM]-Ace, December 26


yep just pm me


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Xmas Run Goot by 4Kingell, December 26


If only this were sustainable for a few weeks....months....sessions?? Lol.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/f8249.Merry Xmas.jpg

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/9644b.Merry merry.jpg


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"invention of lying" movie by whamm!, December 26


it looks pretty good. story is about a world where people dont lie, then this guy ( guy from the office brit version) is the first one to invent lying, so far its pretty funny 5mins into the movie...


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Is poker productive? by Fudyann, December 26


It seems that winning at poker isn't appreciated by anyone. Other people don't get any value from your success. In fact, they get negative value from you. The less big of a winner you are, the more the others will enjoy the game. In that light, winning at poker seems so selfish, so unproductive, more like being a parasite.

I'm worried about this and I think I could be much more motivated if I could clear this issue out.

What are your thoughts?


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Little PCA action left to sell by Loco, December 26


Edit: All booked!

25% Steal City
20% Fayth
10% MuckDude
5% Ket
5% SakiSaki
5% Schoua
10% StatusUp


Sorry to the people who wanted to buy a piece, my friend took all I had left!


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very unmerry christmas by Bullshit, December 26


first time playing in 2 weeks after I moved into my new place and lost 4k pretty shitty day


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Xmas by fira, December 25


merry xmas lp


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christmas was nice to me by moonk379, December 25


well damn variance got me like couple days ago on sngs... losing 5 AA preflop vs either smaller pp or AK etc etc and dropping like 13 bi or more but it wasn't because i was playing bad, just running bad. anyhow today i got most of it back and more so im happy lol gonna move up soon from 10 to 20s so hope that goes well for me

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Many deep chrimbo thoughts by Oly, December 25


WARNING: I AM EXTREMELY DRUNK AND EPIC RAMBLE AHEAD. GETTING THINGS OFF MY CHEST. SUPER TLDR BUT IF YOU STICK WITH IT YOU MIGHT SPOT A PUN OR TWO.

I'm listening to the cure right now. I don't know why but it was what I saw first on winamp in a rush after pearl jam finished between hands. They are quite good, but what annoys me is that they are what every crap emo band wants to be what and every arty drip round hoxton square (hi londoners) wants to be. Anyway, emos are not the point of this blog, otherwise I would have to cut it short. (I'm a fucking comic genius eh). No, I'm going to slice straight through the nonsense and get to the poker...

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/311b0.blade.jpg

Today didn't go well, and I must say I found it rather cutting. The worst bit about this session today was twofold: my internal morality and results. Perhaps the gods combined the two. To start with the results, I ran very very bad in pre-allin situations. Like 3 barreling to the river with a set and getting snapped by the backdoored flush draw kind of thing. That definitely constituted the majority of my losses and felt like it was getting weirdly predictable after a while. Like when you have those irrational thoughts at night that there is something in the room and your obsessive side makes you turn on the lights and look before you can settle (this isn't just me is it??). I also ran 10 buyins below allin EV which wasn't knife. I have attached the relevant graph below. All in all I was pleased that all this only resulted in a 5 buyin loss. Overall I am on the worst downswing I have ever experienced in 3 years of full time poker. It's getting very frustrating. I have experienced times before which I thought were that run of bad luck worse than anything you could ever think possible, but wow. I am not too many buyins down right now, but I expect of myself a very very high winrate since I can only be arsed to play 1/2. If one were to look through my hands of the last 4 days, there are many 400bb pots lost to 1-4 outers and things. So anyway, today's graph:

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/47a4c.oops.png

And this takes us to a lemma between the main corollaries of this post: I won't be posting any graphs or stats again. I was reading the "is liquidpoker +/-ev thread" and was forced to have some reflections about what info is relevant to give out, and what I want from poker.

I'm not feeling too sharp right now, but I'll get to the point. I can't take the immoral side of poker anymore. If I am able to live off the money I make, then others can't. I suppose this point doesn't even need to be argued. We all know that many of the fish are fucking themselves with what they lose to us pros. We absolve ourselves by saying they would lose it someone else anyway. That's not good enough for me. This money is dirty, and I am doing something wrong. I'm not perfect and there are many things I do wrong - I hold myself to very high standards. I carelessly offend people who don't get my sense of humour. I don't take enough direct action against the political wrongs being committed blatantly in front of our eyes. I don't fight this system enough. I keep pushing away girls when they get close. More of that in a minute though, I'll take a stab at that point in a second... My poker behaviour (the playing of) is something I can leave and change by...:

I am currently starting a business with a friend which fits into my (our) ideas of ethical behaviour married to realism - achieving what we can essentially. Even if it's only a blade of grass. The big motivator for that was the emptiness poker presented me with, and also that I quit smoking. I chain smoked for 15 years (I started very very early, fell in with a bad crowd yknow), and quit one year ago. I have achieved some thing in my life of which I am proud, but none so much as quitting smoking. For some it is easier than others. For me it was beyond bad. I am already considered a touch eccentric by my friends and family, but I went completely mad, very very ill. Like weird mental shit. I also got sick for 2 months and then got covered in some undiagnosed rash, head to toe for another two. My body was obviously not happy with the situation. And since then I have realised that I am not only intelligent and a quick learner, but I have willpower to do anything and if I fail with these god given gifts that I can never forgive myself. So back to, literally, business. We will start trading in a couple of weeks and then hopefully I will have an income and then I will never play poker professionally again. I will still seek out friendly HU games and keep a bankroll online for that purpose (HI OSKAR - IT WAS A GREAT GAME LETS DO IT AGAIN).

I've completely rambled but I wanted to get these things off my chest. I have no real life poker friends, and I don't talk to my friends about poker because they don't play so won't understand the very unique challenges. They also don't have the address of this blog. I am not proud of the attitude to fish here, to which I contribute.

If anyone remembers my last blog entry about the fat girl. She wasn't fat!! I was so drunk when I first met her that I had remembered wrong. She was just straight up hot! Anyway, I don't think I have time for her now, she seemed to need attention and stuff, but I think I'll text her next time im in london. Also, thanks for voting for locking her in a cage until she can climb out through the bars - that was my favourite choice.

Anyway that was just a slice of my thoughts, I wouldn't say they were exactly cutting edge.

Cliffs:

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/41215.cliffs.jpg

Boobies:

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/2b742.tits.jpg

On that note, amazing fact: Recently one of my friends and his girlfriend slept with Brian Molko!! I mean, he's bi obviously, otherwise it wouldn't be cool at all.

I'm listening to pulp's different class now so things are much better. Pulp are so cool it's amazing.

Right I'm going to go and watch blade


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Set Mining? Psh I dig for BOATS. by MadJukes, December 25


I think poker is an evolutionary game. Obviously. 5 years ago it was filled with fishies, loose and passive, before sharks came along to gobble them up. Then higher stakes became more and more aggressive as 3-betting and 4-betting light came around. And now there's 4-bet bluffs? What??

I've decided to coin my OWN wicked cool play. I've taken set mining to a whole new level...I call it "BOAT mining".

Submitted by : MadJukes

PokerStars Game #37186385864: Holdem No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2009/12/25 18:30:29 CT [2009/12/25 19:30:29 ET]
Table Herge V 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: bailarin245 ($2.12 in chips)
Seat 2: macteri ($4.88 in chips)
Seat 3: AmiWinehouse ($3.67 in chips)
Seat 4: II VII o ($1.97 in chips)
Seat 5: vince37_m ($2.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($2 in chips)
Seat 7: lepegoalPVC ($0.92 in chips)
Seat 8: 7NIKITA7 ($0.45 in chips)
Seat 9: xlfixer ($1.68 in chips)
7NIKITA7: posts small blind $0.01
xlfixer: posts big blind $0.02

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero 5c5h
bailarin245: folds
macteri: folds
AmiWinehouse: folds
II VII o: folds
vince37_m: calls $0.02
Hero is connected
Hero: calls $0.02
lepegoalPVC: calls $0.02
7NIKITA7: calls $0.01
xlfixer: checks

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.10)

   Ts3s5d
7NIKITA7: bets $0.02
xlfixer: folds
vince37_m: raises $0.04 to $0.06
Hero: calls $0.06
lepegoalPVC: calls $0.06
7NIKITA7: calls $0.04

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $0.34)

   Ts3s5d8s
7NIKITA7: checks
vince37_m: bets $0.22
Hero: calls $0.22
lepegoalPVC: folds
7NIKITA7: raises $0.15 to $0.37 and is all-in
vince37_m: calls $0.15
Hero: calls $0.15

River (Pot : $1.45)

   Ts3s5d8s8c
vince37_m: bets $0.48
Hero: raises $1.07 to $1.55 and is all-in
vince37_m: calls $1.07

Showdown
Hero: shows 5c5h (a full house, Fives full of Eights)
vince37_m: shows Qs7s (a flush, Queen high)
Hero collected $2.95 from side pot
7NIKITA7: shows ThAs (two pair, Tens and Eights)
Hero collected $1.40 from main pot

Summary
Total pot $4.55 Main pot $1.40. Side pot $2.95. | Rake $0.20
Board  Ts3s5d8s8c
Seat 1: bailarin245 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: macteri folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: AmiWinehouse folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: II VII o folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: vince37_m showed Qs7s and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 6: Hero showed 5c5h and won ($4.35) with a full house, Fives full of Eights
Seat 7: lepegoalPVC (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: 7NIKITA7 (small blind) showed ThAs and lost with two pair, Tens and Eights
Seat 9: xlfixer (big blind) folded on the Flop




At the flop, some people advocate raising to kick out the draws or at least make them pay to see it. No. Obviously I've only reached step one, hitting a set. But I'm not trying to set mine, I'm boating mining. So letting him chase clearly lets me chase as well because I didn't hit my hand yet.
Obviously at the turn, either vince37_m or 7NIKITA7 has the completed flush and with a $.22 call to hit 10/45 (we can assume one of them has 2 spades, meaning IF someone else has the 5s, they have a spade of some other sort that leaves me with 45 cards to draw from). So I'm getting 1:4.5 odds of hitting a boat or quads with 1 card left and I need to pay $.22 (of my $2 stack) to see it to potentially stack off.

Dude, it's all about chasing cards at NL2. Hey. Dont judge.

And once I hit that last 8...HOLLA!!


Thanks 7NIKITA7. Ship itttt.

Graph up to today:

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/24a7e.NL2Dec25b09.jpg

Oh and Merry Christmas guys


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need transfer ftp>Stars 1.4k by Xervean, December 25


need transfer ftp to Stars 1.4k please


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Stats check by LemOn[5thF], December 25


Didn't do this in a while,
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Please see above and look for stats that you have different and why would that be.
They are only basic ones, I just want to confirm that I am roughly on the right track.

Small sample, only December NL50-NL100 as my game is constantly evolving and I have watched a ton of vids end November (so winnings will be pretty much irrelevant)


Is it worth it to start looking for good river bluff spots at NL100 apart from obvious 3 barrels, or should I study more on this topic once I start taking shots at NL200?



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Christmas doom by drone666, December 25


yeah, I moved down and I'm getting raped by every nl50 fish, it feels awesome!!
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everyday is getting worst...

fuck, guess I have to take the rest of the year off


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HU SNG by Seobombisgay, December 25


I'm done with school and I have 6 months to take poker seriously again. Deposited $50 on AP and started grinding the $5 ultra turbo 500 chip HU SNG and now taking shots at the $20s. My goal is to hit $10k from $50 before I start work as a day trader. Here's my progress so far.

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Have a holly jolly christmas! by concrescence, December 25





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Odam by k2o4, December 25


Ran like shit again last night. Santa did not deliver. Maybe he's waiting till Christmas day to make my dreams come true? I hope so!

On another note, Christmas is going very well and having a great time with family. Just wish poker mirrored that and then it would be so super sweet =)


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BUSTO by spets1, December 25


busted my roll today.

was going really well actually. started this month with 400 euro, took it up to 1k.

then tilt HU higher stakes busted the roll.

so fuck it.

gonna get a job. Once im payd well enuff, gonna come back as a fish here and donate to you guys.



fcuk me deaddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

lets see how im addicted to poker since i have no money to deposit........... fucks asfsklgnlkgbdfjlsgbdfkng;slg'sd
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bye

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My notes from poker study 24/14 by Mariuslol, December 25


Intro

- To become the best player we need to make the best educated guesses. Transform ourself into pseudo superusers.

- To do this we'll use

* Position
* Bet! Sizing
* Combinatorics
* Different lines

To help us define an opponent's range.

- What makes people better is that they can estimate an opponent's range more precisely.



Fundamentals

- The variables you should take into consideration before making a poker decision:

* Hand range: A set of holdings your opponents may have based on their positions and actions in a hand.

* Fold equity: Is the percentage of the time you win the pot without a showdown.

* Expected value (EV): Is the average win or loss on a specific hand.

- Naturally you should continue in hands where your equity is high and typically fold in situations where it is low.

- Equity should be first thing you think about before you decide to check, bet, or fold


Combinatorics

- Combinatorics = Combinations of hands

- In hold'em there are 1326 possible hand combinations:

* Because there's no difference among the six possible combinations of AA or the sixteen of 72o, the number of hand combinations can be reduced to 169


- How to find Combinations


Unpaired hands

Step 1: Find total number of cards

Step 2: Multiply available cards

Step 3: Add each product

Example: How many combinations of AK and AQ are there on A25 flop?

Solution: (3 Aces)(4 Kings) + (3 Aces)(4 Queens) = 12AK + 12AQ = 24 Combinations


Paired hands

Step 1: Find total number of cards

Step 2: Solve C(C-1) / 2

Step 3: Add each quotient

Example: How many combinations of 22 and 55 on an A25 flop?

Solution: 3x2/2 + 3x2/2 = 6


Common Low/Mid - Stakes Leaks

- Most obvious reasons why low to mid-stakes players are worse than high stakes players is that they can't read hands well.

* Less aggressive and don't fight as much for pots.

- As you become better you'll realize no one ever has anything and you should battle for more pots.


Limped pots

- Rarely do players in early position lead out.

* They check and when late position player bets, they fold and move on to other tables.

- 90% of low-stakes players do not fight for limped pots. They check-fold if they don't hit anything.

- Limped pots are the easiest in the world. No one fights for them, no one cares.

- Steal any pot which isn't coordinated or draw heavy. If you get a call and a high card falls on the turn, fire again. (People usually never limp with J,K,Q,A's


Image

- Players don't use image enough

* Especially nits
* Nits should semi bluff more often
* Also two and three barrel more (Since nits never bluff in big pots, when they do, it's hard to call them down.)
* Nits should also fold TT and JJ more often when facing aggression. (When you're a nit, everyone knows you're a nit.)

- Generally, the majority of players should treat JJ like 99 and give both same value.

* Most of the times when we get either of these hands in on the flop, we are either against sets, overpair or a draw that has atleast 40% equity.


Pot Patrole

- Next time you're in a hand and want to check back the turn with top pair, medium kicker or an overpair, BET!

- Good players peel a lot of flops, because they want to steal on later streets. But almost always they have 5-9 outs, therfor you should bet.

- Betting the turn also makes you a tougher player.

- A common thing among low to mid-stakes players is checking behind on the turn after betting the flop on an open ender or flush, because they want to see a free card.

* Like saying "I want to lose 38 out of 47 times"

- When you check behind on the turn after betting a draw heavy flop. Villain will know your range is weak, and can play well vs you.

* With a draw himslf, bet the river to move you off your hand.
* If he has a good pair, check call your bet.


- High stakes players like to bet enough on the turn so that they'll have the correct odds to call if they get check-raised all in.

* In addition, by betting, leaving small amount behind, it shows you're committed and discourages your opponent from making a play at you.

* If he does shove all in (doesn't happen often). You can call and hit your outs and tilt him.


Balancing

- The idea behind balancing is to make yourself a tougher player so people can't accurately put you on a hand.

- No point balancing when people choose to ignore it.

- In short, up to 3/6 against almost everyone, just play.

* Bet when you tihnk an opponent's range is weak (strong) and check (or fold) when you think it is strong.

- Start balancing 5/10 and higher.


Playing Out Of Position

- Poker is a game where you make money by avoiding difficult spots with marginal hands.

- Nevertheless, people still like to play hands out of position.


- The reason it sucks is because we don't have a lot of choices:

* It's hard to manage the size of the pot
* Infinitely more difficult to run a three-barrel bluff oop than in position because villain could be flatting with the nuts 3 streets.
*Harder to extract value
*Can't choose to see a free showdown on the river and we win fewer pots.

- Simple advice: Fold!!


Showdown Value

- On a T28r board we should be more inclined to showdown with AK than A5 because AK dominates more hands if it improves.

* It also has twice as many outs against top pair.

- We should bet A5 because this causes A6+ type hands to fold and we rarely improve.


Leveling

- Players try to out level themselves too much

* If he's a nit, he's got the nuts, 2nd nuts or in rare cases 3rd nuts.


Backdoor Draws

- Players don't value backdoor draws enough

* Often we'd rather have a backdoor flush draw by the turn than a one pair hand.

* The main reason is the equity we have against villain's calling range on the turn.

* Can continue putting pressure if we miss river.

* Also balances your overall game. Players will think you are a crazy aggro maniac when you are just playing your equity.


Equity Equity

- Example: 55 on a 9TT board, your equity is horrible

* KJ on a 9TT our equity is decent, and rarely drawing dead.

- We often see players C-Betting 569 with AT or KJ. You do have overcards, but will need to fire 3 barrels because whatever handscall the flop aren't going to fold the turn very often.


Not All Fishes Are Alike

- Against the overly aggressive fish, you can start to call more with marginal hands or wait for the nuts

- The loose passive are bad at extracting value and genrally play passive.
* When this type of fish bets, fold.
* Since they call a lot, make thin value bets.
* Don't bluff them.

- Against those who never fold preflop, figure out what amount they are willing to put in with rags. (5x,6x,7x,8x etc.) until they fold
* And raise the highest you can with your premium hands

- Be more inclined to bluff the passive fish who are willing to fold when scarecards appear
* Increase your river bluffing freq. vs them.

- Against fish who like to show bluffs, and is doing it again, he will do it over and over. (Don't out level yourself thinking "he showed a few bluffs a few hands ago, to get payed off on this on). They don't think like that.


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stupid game by gawdawaful, December 25





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merry xmas by bongky, December 25


merry xmas nits, have a great time! <3 all


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