It is exactly one month today since I started playing SH.
I had 49,000 Hands at NL5 with 9 BB/100
I went to NL10 in the half of the month rougly for 3k Hands and lost 3BI, and kept losing even on NL5 for a while.
I returned 10 days ago and ran at 10BB/100 over 10K hands.
Three days ago I tasted NL25 and after I was as expected 3BI down after 100 hands I ran quite nicely and went to 20BB/100 over 2K hands.
Summary: I am happy with my first month of playing short-handed and after the failed NL10 attempt at 18K hands at NL10 I re-evaluated my game and things went pretty nicely for me, result and game wise.
May Goals:
Stay NL25 regular. I seem to run suspiciously good and even though I have almost 40BI now the doom switch may be around the corner.
If I manage that only sky will be the limit.
P.S. Since yesterday I am officially a Silver Star at Pokerstars, wee
I got a project to write until Wednesday and a presentation for Friday at the uni, So I am gonna take a week break.
After the pause I will take a shot at NL25. As I had only few K hands at NL10 (Although I don't see any difference from NL5 apart from more bluffboxes and 100bb) and this may be risky, I will set myself a 5BI stop limit under which I move back to NL10 and grind it some more.
I plan on playing tight fish exploiting ABC on 4tables first 10K hands or so, and if it works well and I get to know the pace of the limit I will attempt to open up like I did at NL10.
My BR: $810
Potential move down Back to NL10: $700
I stupidly spewed 4BI in the morning NL10, during 25minutes. (Why do I play anyway? Always in sports, school, university, I can't bloody focus before 11am... but I always play...and lose. And when I play 30/28 NL10 it even multiplies. I was not going by equity but by hope)
Thank god I got it back in a few (and lost some of it at the end, see my last post) this afternoon.
Than I saw my luck is running out and I am getting tired, so I got back to my 14table NL5 Grind.
And guess what, although I try not to, my openness at NL10 affects my 14tabling as well. I ran 21/20 instead of the usual 17/13 and its actually a better approach as its 200bb. But now I know from NL10 what to do with those tiny SC and One gappers, and I am no longer taking free money from only from the mid-stacks, but with the suck out hands I also stacked the nitty regs here and there.
Here is the brag graph and my 36$/Hour this afternoon.
I know I didn't have to go All-in, but these masculine shoves are just awesome+ there is no way he'd fold an over pair the way I was playing
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
PokerStars Game #27378627164: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/04/22 22:27:20 CET [2009/04/22 16:27:20 ET]
Table Emma II 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: dvolik ($9 in chips)
Seat 2: sartarius78 ($12.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Nerice ($10 in chips)
Seat 4: DoC.LemOn ($61.05 in chips)
Seat 5: assendelft1 ($10.45 in chips)
Seat 6: killaherni ($10 in chips)
killaherni: posts small blind $0.05
dvolik: posts big blind $0.10
dvolik: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $1
assendelft1: raises $1.60 to $2.60
dvolik: folds
DoC.LemOn: raises $58.15 to $60.75 and is all-in
assendelft1: calls $7.55 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($50.60) returned to DoC.LemOn
Showdown DoC.LemOn: shows (a straight, Three to Seven)
assendelft1: shows (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
assendelft1 collected $20.20 from pot
Summary Total pot $21.25 | Rake $1.05
Board
Seat 1: dvolik (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: sartarius78 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: Nerice folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: DoC.LemOn showed and lost with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 5: assendelft1 (button) showed and won ($20.20) with a full house, Sixes full of Fives
Seat 6: killaherni (small blind) folded before Flop
...My luck clearly ran out, I go play some nitty NL5 ;o
I started my session playing LAGgy NL10 4tables, and as this is so hard on my brain (I actually use Stove again for many hands) I can't keep it up for more than 1-2 hours.
And when I am tired I just put on my grinder shoes, open couple (9-15)NL5 SH tables and grind for some moneyz and FPP's and have some fun ;o
I managed not to check my cashier at all today as the NL5 grind is so relaxing and its popped at $610.
If I keep this up and balance tilts at NL10 by the nitty NL5 grinds I should be able to taste NL25 in no time. (I will try with around $800, 4BI's will be a buffer zone that I expect to lose before I adjust)
DoC.LemOn: checks
Vovan20: bets $1
DoC.LemOn: raises $11.25 to $12.25 and is all-in
Vovan20: calls $6 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($5.25) returned to DoC.LemOn
Showdown DoC.LemOn: shows (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
Vovan20: shows (a pair of Queens)
DoC.LemOn collected $14.80 from pot
mrirc said, "folded 33"
Summary Total pot $15.55 | Rake $0.75
Board
Seat 1: maverick763 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: mrirc (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Ronhel1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: DoC.LemOn showed and won ($14.80) with two pair, Threes and Deuces
Seat 5: pijonson folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Vovan20 showed and lost with a pair of Queens
Showdown DoC.LemOn: shows (a straight, Nine to King)
fourbizness: mucks hand
DoC.LemOn collected $10.31 from pot
Summary Total pot $10.81 | Rake $0.50
Board
Seat 1: fourbizness (small blind) mucked
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn (big blind) showed and won ($10.31) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 3: Comet Storm folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Jeepster420 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Vegasfan1 folded before Flop
Seat 6: Wl@dimir (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
PokerStars Game #27328385061: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/04/21 14:46:15 CET [2009/04/21 8:46:15 ET]
Table Glauke 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: DWLYONS ($5.60 in chips)
Seat 2: Surround8 ($19.95 in chips)
Seat 3: martaeliza ($5.90 in chips)
Seat 4: DoC.LemOn ($10.50 in chips)
Seat 5: goodeh99 ($13.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Koeienboer ($15.95 in chips)
martaeliza: posts small blind $0.05
DoC.LemOn: posts big blind $0.10
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to DoC.LemOn
goodeh99: folds
Koeienboer: folds
DWLYONS: calls $0.10
Surround8: folds
martaeliza: folds
Surround8 said, "..."
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.30 to $0.40
DWLYONS: raises $0.30 to $0.70
DoC.LemOn: raises $1.45 to $2.15
DWLYONS: raises $3.35 to $5.50
DoC.LemOn: raises $5 to $10.50 and is all-in
DWLYONS: calls $0.10 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($4.90) returned to DoC.LemOn
Showdown DoC.LemOn: shows (three of a kind, Fours)
DWLYONS: mucks hand
DoC.LemOn collected $10.70 from pot
DWLYONS leaves the table
Summary Total pot $11.25 | Rake $0.55
Board
Seat 1: DWLYONS mucked
Seat 2: Surround8 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: martaeliza (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: DoC.LemOn (big blind) showed and won ($10.70) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 5: goodeh99 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Koeienboer folded before Flop (didnt bet)
PokerStars Game #27327092830: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/04/21 13:39:02 CET [2009/04/21 7:39:02 ET]
Table Eichsfeldia 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: DoC.LemOn ($14.35 in chips)
Seat 2: kvs2105 ($2.75 in chips)
Seat 3: konas55 ($14.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Trentok ($15.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Dogy Bob ($5.60 in chips)
Seat 6: loopdude ($12.40 in chips)
DoC.LemOn: posts small blind $0.05
kvs2105: posts big blind $0.10
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to DoC.LemOn
konas55: folds
Trentok: folds
Dogy Bob: folds
loopdude: raises $0.30 to $0.40
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.80 to $1.20
kvs2105: folds
loopdude: raises $2.30 to $3.50
DoC.LemOn: raises $10.85 to $14.35 and is all-in
loopdude: calls $8.90 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.95) returned to DoC.LemOn
Ok so I moved to NL10 and started 4tabling as many of you were advising me.
The limit is so weird. Many PF nits that turn into massive stations once they are in a hand.
Not even that many people don't fold a bottom pair on AK board when I cbet, but a big percentage doesn't fold air on the most obvious dry boards with 1-2 high over cards.
Had 58% C/bet %, but I will lower it to around 50% (I am changing the standard to NOT to c/bet against unknown as opposed to NL5 and I have to have a read for c/betting, rather than against it now)
That would be ok, I am used to this with the $4 people from NL5. But NL10 its almost everyone, including many full stacks (who are huge nits and Trapping machines NL5)
I ran 28/26.5/4 with 12% 3Bet and 48% attempted to steal. (I had two 15VP/5 call PFR tables, completely oblivious to what I was doing lol)
I changed to 3BB+XBB.
My strategy for the future: Keep exploiting the PF nits and bet super strong all made hands with only c/bets against people that are capable of folding on suitable boards.
To illustrate:
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
PokerStars Game #27328146932: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/04/21 14:34:28 CET [2009/04/21 8:34:28 ET]
Table Gaea 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Korandr AK ($8.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Pretty Vcnt ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 3: roulian57 ($1.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Rasta701 ($10.60 in chips)
Seat 5: DoC.LemOn ($22.50 in chips)
Seat 6: dasaldo ($5.35 in chips)
dasaldo: posts small blind $0.05
Korandr AK: posts big blind $0.10
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to DoC.LemOn
Pretty Vcnt: raises $0.20 to $0.30
roulian57: folds
Rasta701: folds
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.65 to $0.95
dasaldo: folds
Korandr AK: folds
Pretty Vcnt: calls $0.65
Pretty Vcnt: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $9.85
Pretty Vcnt: calls $2.40 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($7.45) returned to DoC.LemOn
Showdown DoC.LemOn: shows (two pair, Queens and Tens)
Pretty Vcnt: mucks hand
DoC.LemOn collected $19.50 from pot
Summary Total pot $20.45 | Rake $0.95
Board
Seat 1: Korandr AK (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Pretty Vcnt mucked
Seat 3: roulian57 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Rasta701 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: DoC.LemOn (button) showed and won ($19.50) with two pair, Qu
Than Genjix came and sat on majority of my tables (to my left of course ;o).
Some nice pots emerged and we played even HU for a while, great experience.Than some of LP guys joined the party and NL5 turned into NL100 for a while.
I had a great time, I even bluffed a lot and people actually believed me. Thanks Neilly, Crown, Genjix and Donald for showing me how awesome poker at higher stakes is and hope to see you at my tables again
PokerStars Game #27281772937: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/04/20 3:35:59 CET [2009/04/19 21:35:59 ET]
Table Ohio 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn ($12.80 in chips)
Seat 3: genjix ($19.19 in chips)
Seat 4: SmallFRYbigF ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: bbangsang ($14.61 in chips)
Seat 6: NeillyAA ($11.02 in chips)
genjix: posts small blind $0.02
SmallFRYbigF: posts big blind $0.05
Holecards Dealt to DoC.LemOn
bbangsang: folds
NeillyAA: raises $0.15 to $0.20
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.42 to $0.62
genjix: folds
chel1_83 joins the table at seat #1
SmallFRYbigF: raises $1.23 to $1.85
NeillyAA: folds
DoC.LemOn: calls $1.23
Flop (Pot : $3.92)
SmallFRYbigF: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $2.48
SmallFRYbigF: raises $4.92 to $7.40
DoC.LemOn: folds
Uncalled bet ($4.92) returned to SmallFRYbigF
SmallFRYbigF collected $8.48 from pot
SmallFRYbigF: shows (a pair of Deuces)
Summary Total pot $8.88 | Rake $0.40
Board
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: genjix (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: SmallFRYbigF (big blind) collected ($8.48)
Seat 5: bbangsang folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: NeillyAA folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #27281907779: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/04/20 3:40:59 CET [2009/04/19 21:40:59 ET]
Table Ohio 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: chel1_83 ($1.89 in chips)
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn ($10.40 in chips)
Seat 3: genjix ($19.04 in chips)
Seat 4: SmallFRYbigF ($14.06 in chips)
Seat 5: bbangsang ($14.19 in chips)
Seat 6: NeillyAA ($11.17 in chips)
NeillyAA: posts small blind $0.02
chel1_83: posts big blind $0.05
Holecards Dealt to DoC.LemOn
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.15 to $0.20
genjix: folds
SmallFRYbigF: folds
bbangsang: folds
NeillyAA: raises $0.45 to $0.65
chel1_83: folds
DoC.LemOn: raises $1.35 to $2
NeillyAA: calls $1.35
Flop (Pot : $4.05)
NeillyAA: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $2.66
NeillyAA: folds
Uncalled bet ($2.66) returned to DoC.LemOn
DoC.LemOn collected $3.85 from pot
DoC.LemOn: doesnt show hand
Summary Total pot $4.05 | Rake $0.20
Board
Seat 1: chel1_83 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn collected ($3.85)
Seat 3: genjix folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: SmallFRYbigF folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: bbangsang (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: NeillyAA (small blind) folded on the Flop
Showdown DoC.LemOn: shows (a pair of Threes)
SmallFRYbigF: shows (a pair of Threes - Ace kicker)
SmallFRYbigF collected $4.29 from pot
Summary Total pot $4.49 | Rake $0.20
Board
Seat 1: chel1_83 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn showed and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 3: genjix folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: SmallFRYbigF (button) showed and won ($4.29) with a pair of Threes
Seat 5: bbangsang (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: NeillyAA (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #27284816005: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/04/20 5:41:04 CET [2009/04/19 23:41:04 ET]
Table Ohio 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: fmolnard ($4.82 in chips)
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn ($26.58 in chips)
Seat 3: genjix ($13.37 in chips)
Seat 5: melgrimes ($5.89 in chips)
Seat 6: tehskies ($10.15 in chips)
DoC.LemOn: posts small blind $0.02
genjix: posts big blind $0.05
videira13: sits out
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to DoC.LemOn
melgrimes: calls $0.05
tehskies: raises $0.20 to $0.25
fmolnard: folds
DoC.LemOn: folds
genjix: raises $0.50 to $0.75
melgrimes: folds
tehskies: raises $1.25 to $2
genjix: calls $1.25
genjix: bets $5
tehskies: calls $4.15 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.85) returned to genjix
Showdown genjix: shows (a pair of Queens)
tehskies: shows (a full house, Nines full of Queens)
tehskies collected $19.42 from pot
Summary Total pot $20.37 | Rake $0.95
Board
Seat 1: fmolnard (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: genjix (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: melgrimes folded before Flop
Seat 6: tehskies showed and won ($19.42) with a full house, Nines full of Queens
DoC.LemOn: checks
DoC.LemOn said, "wow"
tehskies: bets $0.50
DoC.LemOn said, "i have to call"
DoC.LemOn: calls $0.50
River (Pot : $3.37)
DoC.LemOn: bets $2.12
tehskies: raises $6.69 to $8.81 and is all-in
DoC.LemOn: calls $6.69
Showdown tehskies: shows (three of a kind, Queens)
DoC.LemOn: shows (a flush, Ace high)
DoC.LemOn collected $19.99 from pot
tehskies said, "cute imo"
Summary Total pot $20.99 | Rake $1
Board
Seat 1: tehskies (button) showed and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: genjix (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: kikimania69 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: NeillyAA folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: SmallFRYbigF folded before Flop
Seat 6: DoC.LemOn showed and won ($19.99) with a flush, Ace high
tehskies: bets $3
DoC.LemOn: raises $6.10 to $9.10
tehskies: raises $5.42 to $14.52 and is all-in
DoC.LemOn: calls $3.89 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.53) returned to tehskies
River (Pot : $30.97)
Showdown tehskies: shows (three of a kind, Deuces)
DoC.LemOn: shows (a flush, Ten high)
DoC.LemOn collected $29.47 from pot
Summary Total pot $30.97 | Rake $1.50
Board
Seat 1: fmolnard folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn showed and won ($29.47) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 3: genjix (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: SmallFRYbigF (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: bbangsang (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: tehskies showed and lost with three of a kind, Deuces
DoC.LemOn: checks
tehskies: bets $4.79 and is all-in
tehskies said, "neilly, in your opinion"
DoC.LemOn said, "this is tough"
DoC.LemOn said, "qk"
tehskies said, "are KANGS better than aces?"
DoC.LemOn said, ""
DoC.LemOn said, "dude"
tehskies said, "shouldnt be a hard decision once you came this far"
DoC.LemOn said, "but ur table image"
DoC.LemOn said, ":o"
DoC.LemOn: calls $4.79
Showdown tehskies: shows (a straight, Nine to King)
DoC.LemOn: mucks hand
tehskies collected $19.52 from pot
DoC.LemOn said, "damn"
Summary Total pot $20.52 | Rake $1
Board
Seat 1: tehskies showed and won ($19.52) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 2: genjix folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: kikimania69 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: NeillyAA (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: SmallFRYbigF (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: DoC.LemOn (big blind) mucked
I have seen that I can play semi-decent lag and its fun too, so I will now split my sessions into 4Tabling open style with 3BB+X PF raising and my usual 9table+ 4BB+X grinds (thanks Crown for the advice)
P.S. Apology: Sorry Genjix for saying I am sick of your style, everyone plays as he suits and thats why poker is so much fun. Cheers for the games. (Lets go HU again sometimes, it was fun but but too short ;o)
So I have reached the mass of $550, exactly the ceiling that many sites will match with a bonus.
I love Stars, but this bonus would be a great boost, and I can always come back right?
FullTilt seems very similar and it has 100% match to up to $600 bonus and 27% rake back.
The Only thing that keeps me from doing this is Tableninja. I got used to it so much... Is there anything similar for Full tilt?
Do you think its worth it?
(You know me and my massive BW-like volumes ;o, I don't think it would be for too long)
P.S. I'd play NL10 SH there until $750, than NL25 (Are the blinds 10/25 or different?)
(*If we don't count the 10days of 0.2+0.02SnG's and 5k hands total nitting iPoker
Look at my Professionally made graph:
SH is a game for me and my notorious impatience.
I decided to hang around at NL5 SH for a while, NL10 is cursed with stations and massive amount of midstacks and it turns into turbo SnG like shove/fold fest far too often.
I had one massive 1 day tilt a while ago, and thank god the luckboxed $26 win in my third MTT ever helped me to get back on track, win 10BI regularly + 14BI in a MTT SnG in 3 days.
But since the lucky second place I have become overconfident, which made me a degen playing 4.40 180 Mans when I didn't have the skills at all.
Whats next:
1) Attempt to play LAG on 20/10 tables (yes you can find these easily NL5 despite what most of you think)
2) Stop the tarded 4.40 SnG's. 1.1 Are enough for me.
I will read some poker strategy Articles on SnG's if I have spare time and Cash games bore me and maybe checkout some ICM trainer.
3) Slowly build roll for NL25. I still plan to do the last 7-10BI at NL10 to adjust to the 100bb weirdness.
4) Continue reading everything in Low Stakes, and get through the Advanced Articles.
Make it to Gold at Poker strategy and read all articles there (like 20 3+page articles)
I still didn't find any good SH videos, those at PS are not that good so if someone wants to point me to some site I'd appreciate it.
P.S. My decision to Stay at NL5:
Maybe you might disagree with me, but NL5 is the best platform for learning poker.
What I still don't quite understand as I moved to SH recently and wouldn't be able to train well NL10:
-Second Barrel
-LAG style
-Floating
-3Bets/4bets
-Playing sc well
I suck at all these and NL10 its hard to do them without becoming pot committed. I tried, and I failed so NL10 forced me to play like a nit.
Yes, I agree that the way I am over thinking the limit probably hurts my win rate (7ptbbBB/100 overall and 9ptbb/100 after initial 15K hands), but what the hell- I am having fun, have the cool feeling like in BW when I read an strategy article and use it directly.
I love NL5 and leaving it will hurt my heart.
BR when Started: $50
BR: $552 (I once deposited $50 to get a bonus and withdrew it back two days ago)
FPP: used 1200 to buy a Tee for me and my GF, now I got 600 and am saving for the Porsche.