NL10 lol

PokerStars Game #27328146932: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/04/21 14:34:28 CET [2009/04/21 8:34:28 ET]
Table Gaea 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Korandr AK ($8.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Pretty Vcnt ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 3: roulian57 ($1.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Rasta701 ($10.60 in chips)
Seat 5: DoC.LemOn ($22.50 in chips)
Seat 6: dasaldo ($5.35 in chips)
dasaldo: posts small blind $0.05
Korandr AK: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to DoC.LemOn
Pretty Vcnt: raises $0.20 to $0.30
roulian57: folds
Rasta701: folds
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.65 to $0.95
dasaldo: folds
Korandr AK: folds
Pretty Vcnt: calls $0.65

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.05)

   
Pretty Vcnt: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $1.80
Pretty Vcnt: calls $1.80

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $5.65)

   
Pretty Vcnt: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $5
Pretty Vcnt: calls $5

River (Pot : $15.65)

   
Pretty Vcnt: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $9.85
Pretty Vcnt: calls $2.40 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($7.45) returned to DoC.LemOn

Showdown
DoC.LemOn: shows (two pair, Queens and Tens)
Pretty Vcnt: mucks hand
DoC.LemOn collected $19.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $20.45 | Rake $0.95
Board  
Seat 1: Korandr AK (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Pretty Vcnt mucked
Seat 3: roulian57 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Rasta701 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: DoC.LemOn (button) showed and won ($19.50) with two pair, Qu

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lolol 12% 3bet ur more aggro than me

looks like ur having fun which is the main part but dont get set into rules with playing poker do what is most profitable.

the main things to learn from doing something like 3betting 12% of ur hands is to take note of how people handle it.

#1 You should start realizing that a hand like AJ is being 3betted for value when people are visually tilted, this is what we want. It pushes our winrates to the furthest stretches possible when we can 3bet for value with AJ.
#2 sigh i have to go but basically just make sure you really contemplate ur image and how to abuse it for maximum value in every spot and if its just a bunch of faggot nits who dont care what you do, rape them with 3bets until they do care. Take whatever player you can out of their own element and force them into your world of domination.

gl dude!

Its mostly not about the image, people just do the same and 3bet= fold when they have 14/14-23/23 stats.


Some of them do start noticing when I 3bet them six times in a row though and they open their range ridiculously like this guy who had clearly AT+ 77+ when I shoved

Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

PokerStars Game #27327092830: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/04/21 13:39:02 CET [2009/04/21 7:39:02 ET]
Table Eichsfeldia 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: DoC.LemOn ($14.35 in chips)
Seat 2: kvs2105 ($2.75 in chips)
Seat 3: konas55 ($14.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Trentok ($15.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Dogy Bob ($5.60 in chips)
Seat 6: loopdude ($12.40 in chips)
DoC.LemOn: posts small blind $0.05
kvs2105: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to DoC.LemOn
konas55: folds
Trentok: folds
Dogy Bob: folds
loopdude: raises $0.30 to $0.40
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.80 to $1.20
kvs2105: folds
loopdude: raises $2.30 to $3.50
DoC.LemOn: raises $10.85 to $14.35 and is all-in
loopdude: calls $8.90 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.95) returned to DoC.LemOn

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $24.90)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $24.90)

   

River (Pot : $24.90)

   

Showdown
DoC.LemOn: shows (two pair, Aces and Fives)
loopdude: mucks hand
DoC.LemOn collected $23.70 from pot

Summary
Total pot $24.90 | Rake $1.20
Board  
Seat 1: DoC.LemOn (small blind) showed and won ($23.70) with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 2: kvs2105 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: konas55 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Trentok folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Dogy Bob folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: loopdude (button) mucked

I think the hands you posted show just how utterly retarded NL10 is and how it is no different than NL2. Villains call down ANY draw, ANY gutshot, ANY pair, and always float AT+. I think you should still cbet near 100% of hands though b/c they call with practically any two cards preflop. So basically you're betting on the likelihood they simply missed completely, which is going to happen a good 50% of the time. The remaining cbets will be for balance when you do hit.

btw notice that many people who do not fold to cbet on flop will fold a lot of turns. So vs some players you can cbet 100% and barrel 80% (untill they adapt, which might happen quite quickly)

On April 21 2009 11:05 NewbSaibot wrote: I think the hands you posted show just how utterly retarded NL10 is and how it is no different than NL2. Villains call down ANY draw, ANY gutshot, ANY pair, and always float AT+. I think you should still cbet near 100% of hands though b/c they call with practically any two cards preflop. So basically you're betting on the likelihood they simply missed completely, which is going to happen a good 50% of the time. The remaining cbets will be for balance when you do hit.

You can't categorise the whole limit just like that. Sure, there are people who call any 2, but there are many people who only call a very narrow range regardless of their position.

Its the latter that make me open my range ridiculously and I am raising these nits with hands like 79o. The fact that they call very narrow also means that I am behind most of the time when they do call, so besides the c/bet on dry boards when they are unlikely to hit I simply have to give up if they decide to float me (and I have to adjust my opening range or simply not c/bet if they do this often).
And if I know they don't like folding even obvious situations than C/bet when I don't hit is not a good idea because they are capable of calling me down with underpair all the way, and double barell becomes very expensive.

Double barreling does become expensive, but watch them fold. As auffenpuffer said, try delayed cbetting too. Fish tend to be very stubborn on the flop. I dont know if they are trying to be creative like what they see on TV and just "see what you do on the turn" or if they think their draw on the flop is worth calling but not on the turn, but checking the flop and just cbetting turn works wonders quite often. Especially when a big overcard hits b/c they give you credit for having it 9/10 times.

Ah, those were the days...

It seems you are on the right track with your logic, but just be careful not to fall in love with your HUD and forget about your metagame, especially when only 4-tabling. Keep up the good work and you'll be at NL200+ in no time.

and fwiw I'm not the biggest fan of abusing my 3betting range too much because I like playing postflop/rivers SOOOOO much more (in ring, anyway), but there is obv nothing wrong with making it so you can 3bet AJ for value as Crown said and etc.