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Daut    United States. Dec 11 2011 23:36. Posts 8955
It really bothers me that there are lots of huge scams going on in the areas of coaching players. I dont think there is a lot of good/affordable coaching out there. I also want to give myself a way to make more money when I am not in canada and cant play online.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/lessons/teacherlist.php


Prices:
Through January 31, 2012:

PLO coaching: $125 an hour
full ring NL: $100 an hour
MTT: $75/hr


After Feb 1, 2012 (refer to post #20 in this thread):

PLO coaching: $175 an hour
full ring NL: $150 an hour
MTT: $125 an hour

get 4 hours of coaching, 5th hour is free



I would consider trying a different method (ie % of profits) for a reputable lower stakes PLO/NL player who cant afford it. I would try to work something out with someone who wanted coaching but doesnt have a lot of money.

i only offer coaching in these 3 things as they are the only I have been beating the past few years for good winrates. I dont have every hand I've ever played, but these are about 95% of my online cash game hands since october 2009. of this 26 month period, I took lots of time off due to travel, breaks, and the DOJ. my total hours played is listed as 891, which makes my hourly $105.76, which is how i chose my coaching rates.



Prior to these hands, from 2005-october 2009, I made about 200k in NL cash on pokerstars, 75k in NL cash on full tilt, 100k in PLO cash, and made about 30k total on ub/cake/merge total. in total ive made roughly 500k from online cash games + maybe 150k worth of rakeback/fpps.

In live tournaments, I am up approximately 1.3-1.4million dollars with 3 major final tables in WPT events. In online tournaments I am up about 315k total. +387k on stars, up about 15k on ub/other sites and down about 85k on ftp.

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/...348EBEFEA4DC1D6AD2.html?t=2&rc=229941
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/...8B98D5DC446155B5B5.html?t=2&rc=292714

However I am not a tournament regular. I only play a few hundred a year and stay up to date on how the game is played, but since it is not my main game I dont feel comfortable charging the same price as I do for PLO or NL.

I would do anything from hand history reviews to going through sessions to watching a current session to theory. For theory I would probably either require more hours or a higher rate due to a lot of preparation required. But I would be fair in how that rate was decided. Whatever the student wants, as long as I know ahead of time.

I am not available at all times as I do spend a lot of time traveling. But in any given month there is at least a 2 week period where I would be available.

I have done a little bit of formal coaching, but not much. However, I have made 15+ videos for cardrunners.com and have experience explaining my thoughts in all 3 games.

either post here or send me a pm if you are interested.

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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 14/12/2011 23:46

player999   Brasil. Dec 12 2011 00:05. Posts 7978

post more results please, still not sure how good you are

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

wobbly_au   Australia. Dec 12 2011 00:05. Posts 6540

Im here to support daut, i think his rate is very reasonable.

The Last Laugh. 

Spicy   United States. Dec 12 2011 00:39. Posts 1027

If I could still play in the US, I'd definitely take you up on the PLO offer.
But I do have a suggestion for how you could efficiently coach theory. If you have enough interested students, you could just give a lesson as a group to offset the preparation time.


Daut    United States. Dec 12 2011 01:10. Posts 8955


  On December 11 2011 23:39 Spicy wrote:
If I could still play in the US, I'd definitely take you up on the PLO offer.
But I do have a suggestion for how you could efficiently coach theory. If you have enough interested students, you could just give a lesson as a group to offset the preparation time.



that sounds like a pretty good idea. when i have some free time ill probably write up a few lessons, calculate how long it took me, and make the entire seminar cost $100 per hour of my time. so for example if it took me 5 hours to make a good 1 hour group lesson, i would charge (5+1)*100=600 dollars total, and if there were 15 people in there id just charge 40 bucks a person. ill explore this later as I dont have much experience with powerpoint and would want to do it right before i jump into it

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

Funktion   Australia. Dec 12 2011 01:47. Posts 1638

If you have used anything else in the Office suite you will pick up Powerpoint quickly and easily I would imagine.

For those who don't know you or your history it might be worth adding your mathematical background/credentials? Which may not be directly related to your coaching in this case, clearly demonstrate certain desirable attributes.

Good luck with this the rates seem very reasonable.


flounder44   United States. Dec 12 2011 02:59. Posts 916

5+ bb/100...

Does it even matter if you get sucked out on?


SugoGosu   Korea (South). Dec 12 2011 04:06. Posts 1793

i remember watching a video of you on CardRunners playing like 16 or 24 tables. If I could afford you (I just started back up again this week, started with $50 on merge, now have $120 from NL4) I'd take this in a heartbeat.

Say this outloud! Why was six afraid of seven?......Because Seven Eight NineLast edit: 12/12/2011 04:06

ggplz   Sweden. Dec 12 2011 04:09. Posts 16784

Daut is undoubtedly worth the money if your looking for coaching. Long history of basically knowing his shit and owning it up.

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

TimDawg    United States. Dec 12 2011 04:35. Posts 10197

im interested

send me a message on aim whenever

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Garfed   Malta. Dec 12 2011 06:38. Posts 4818

Finally someone posting a big sample with decent winrate that goes along with rates.


RiKD    United States. Dec 12 2011 07:50. Posts 8543

double post

 Last edit: 12/12/2011 07:52

RiKD    United States. Dec 12 2011 07:52. Posts 8543

i can't personally vouch for anything besides 40ish bb plo and this was 2009-2010 but daut might have been the most solid player i've ever played against in that field. i improved my cap plo game tremendously by playing with him and watching his cap videos on CR. better players than me have agreed. if i still played i'd definitely hire him for some consulting and discussions on shallower stacks, GTO play, and mathematics.

i'm just giving the shoutout b/c i'm usually HEAVILY anti-coaching and happy to see a coach actually offering transparency and value. respek.


player999   Brasil. Dec 12 2011 10:07. Posts 7978

was obv trolling I dont think he needed to post anything besides the rates, everyone here already knows its the best deal ever

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

Bigbobm   United States. Dec 12 2011 11:21. Posts 5511

He had a solid rush game as well fwiw. If FTP comes back to the us I'd love to take you up on a few lessons.

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

daysare   Poland. Dec 12 2011 15:18. Posts 670


  On December 12 2011 06:52 RiKD wrote:
i'm usually HEAVILY anti-coaching



is that because it makes games tougher, or do you think players should figure out poker on their own?

edit. came across your post in slowhabit's thread so I already know the answer and there is no need for a similar discussion in here

 Last edit: 12/12/2011 16:28

RaiNKhAN    United States. Dec 12 2011 16:40. Posts 4080

Do you think if you finished out your PHD or w/e that you would make more per year than doing this with travelling back/forth included? You would have to imagine that teaching students in difficult classes would also yield more personal satisfaction

The biggest Rockets, Sixers, and Grizzlies fan you will ever meet! 

rememp   Canada. Dec 12 2011 17:14. Posts 480

Daut, how many hours do you think you would need to put in with a breakeven nl25 player to make me beat it?


Daut    United States. Dec 12 2011 18:15. Posts 8955

i could probably make brochen a winner in 10 hours. a breakeven nl25 player playing softer players? maybe 5.

i also offered someone every 5th hour free for 4 hours coaching, which i would do for anyone, so updated that in the original post

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

NeillyJQ   United States. Dec 13 2011 12:43. Posts 8947

great post ryan

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ 

 
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