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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 06 2011 16:57. Posts 4944

Baal says he doesnt know what hit the pentagon, only that it wasnt a plane. Why wouldnt it be a plane? What else moves fast enough to avoid being caught on camera, causes this kind of damage, and bursts into a big ball of bright red fire as a result of jet fuel being on board? We dont use gasoline/jet fuel as an explosive in weapons, because it's not all that explosive. We use c4, semtex, and things of this nature, which do not produce big balls of fire, especially ones that linger on and burn for hours.

bye nowLast edit: 06/04/2011 16:59

traxamillion   United States. Apr 06 2011 17:07. Posts 10468

also look at the trading on the day before 9/11. I think this is a very telling point.

American Airlines stock was heavily shorted the day before


one +2.5million option was never even picked up; who does that?


traxamillion   United States. Apr 06 2011 17:07. Posts 10468

shows that people AT LEAST knew


palak   United States. Apr 06 2011 17:14. Posts 4601

^ http://www.snopes.com/rumors/putcall.asp

don't know y i'm posting that since u'll just say it was a bad investigation, or the newsletter or investors had knowledge of 9/11 and it wasn't just a coincident cuz those never occur. Also Larry Silverstein bought the wtc towers on July 24th 2001, so clearly he was in on the attack too since that's only 2 months before the attack. Things never just occur randomly and then we put reason and planning/structure behind them because the human brain doesn't like randomness or coincidences, nooo that can't possibly be it.

Edit: Now I'm done arguing. If ppl genuinely think scenario 1 is the most likely way september 11th occurred, then fuck it at this pt there's no actual way to convince them otherwise.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquariumLast edit: 06/04/2011 17:16

Zep   United States. Apr 06 2011 17:17. Posts 2292

Baal: Let me put this in perspective as to show you how small of a minority you are within the group of individuals with the same or greater knowledge than you have about engineering. Over the last nine years, less than 1500 engineers and architects world wide have signed the 9/11 AE Truth Movement Petition. I've known about that shit for at least 7+ years that I can remember from first hearing about it. I'm 23 years old. If I, as a white, middle class american living in the suburbs (the good life) as a kid first heard about it at age 16 eight years ago, how the fuck has the entire USA not heard about it by now? It's been covered in American news more than Charlie Sheen...But back to my point, 1500 engineers and architects worldwide have signed the petition. in 2009, there were 239k mechanical engineers, 278k civil engineers, and 233k architects in the United States. The AE911Truth Movement has been going on nearly 10 years and they have 1500 professionals in those industries worldwide who believe 9/11 was an inside job. 1500 worldwide, 750K in the United States.You called my bluff, no study has been conducted among professional engineers and architects in the United States that show 90% of them don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. I'd love to see a study among those professionals who do believe it was an inside job. I can't find one. What I was trying to point out and attempting to say is that you are a 10% outlier at worse, but truthfully, it's probably closer to 1%. There is less than a 1% chance that you are correct on this matter baal. Congrats, you and the westboro baptist church got it right...again! The last point i want to make is, if you are as right as you think you are, wouldn't your industry you love and understand feel the same way. Wouldn't the majority of engineers worldwide make a big deal out of everything they know being disproved right in front of them? If i posted contradictory advice on a hi stakes poker forum, I may have valid points from having poker experience, but more often than not, I am wrong. Especially if i am disagreeing with 99% of high stakes pros.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

Zep   United States. Apr 06 2011 17:28. Posts 2292

Anyone want to discuss possible military involvement in 9/11 or even prior involvement to 9/11 because that is the only real conspiracy theory that should be being talked about and yet it never has.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

traxamillion   United States. Apr 06 2011 17:54. Posts 10468

did u even read what you linked there? it basically said the trading on the 6th was super sketch

then quoted some random explanation of 1 person putting 95% of the calls with zero evidence.

and also look just look and think about that "explanation" for a second. would be very convenient and mbn for that guy. just like a training exercise about hijacked planes the same day as the attacks.


traxamillion   United States. Apr 06 2011 17:57. Posts 10468

and zep there are obviously other reasons more people wouldn't have signed that petition. ducy


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Apr 06 2011 18:39. Posts 688

This thread makes me sad. We are supposed to be the smartest species on earth, yet so many are brainwashed and retarded, unable to think critically, just repeating officials' statements. Just the way they like it. Enough 9/11 stuff, it's old, everyone already has an opinion, nobody has gotten smarter, let's shift the thread back on course, alright?
FEMA Camps it is.
In the next paragraph I will draw you a picture of several facts. You have to connect the dots and come up with a reasonable theory on what these law changes and preparations are made for. Can you do that please? Its especially important for Americans to see this. Remember, these are all hard facts, undisputable. Just try to put them in context of what is the Government preparing for and why.










pay close attention here!

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speechLast edit: 06/04/2011 18:46

NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 06 2011 18:50. Posts 4944

You just be really bored in life to require the excitement of doomsday scenarios to occupy your time.

bye now 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Apr 06 2011 19:00. Posts 688

If someone told me there was a good chance I am wanted dead and presents me with evidence I would be damn interested to look into them before I make up my mind. Because, in the worst case - I am dead. In the best case - I've lost some of my spare time. Ignorance is bliss.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

Funktion   Australia. Apr 06 2011 19:07. Posts 1638


  On April 05 2011 20:19 Baal wrote:
I dont feel like going into detail of why 911 is an obvious demolition...


If only this were true.


  On April 05 2011 20:44 Baal wrote:
I am not a conspiracy theorists despise what some idiots want to think, im a rationalist and i believe what the evidence and logic dictates me and i try not to be biased and keep emotion out of it


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


asdf2000   United States. Apr 06 2011 19:14. Posts 7693

given that fema is supposed to handle disaster response isn't it possible these camps are just to house people in response to disasters?

Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right. 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Apr 06 2011 19:36. Posts 688

They are in the whole of USA, these projects are built with hundreds of billions of your dollars. It has to be based on either some very serious threat or it may be related to the promoted by Obama - prevention detention. Basically, if military thinks you pose a future threat given your profile or looks or actions (anything), you are going to be put in one of these camps. As Obama said in one of the videos i posted 20 mins ago - it's fine if you stay in detention one, five or even 10 years before you are called for trial or released. Yes, these words came from the mouth of President Obama. Would you comment on that in relation to the massive hundred-billion project for building FEMA Camps?

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

palak   United States. Apr 06 2011 19:44. Posts 4601

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

blackjacki2   United States. Apr 06 2011 21:16. Posts 2581

Baal, I recall you saying that anyone that isn't at least open to the idea that 9/11 was an inside job is a moron. Does that mean you think James Randi is a moron? I thought you liked him.


blackjacki2   United States. Apr 06 2011 21:35. Posts 2581


  On April 06 2011 17:39 D_smart_S wrote:
This thread makes me sad. We are supposed to be the smartest species on earth, yet so many are brainwashed and retarded, unable to think critically, just repeating officials' statements.



Sorry but what have you been doing other than regurgitating shit you've seen on stupid youtube clips?

Here's a thread you might find interesting: http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/760502/500,000_coffins...html

You're so good at thinking critically and coming up with your own stuff that you create the same thread as somebody else and the exact same thread that thousands of other people have created on other forums across the internet.


  On April 06 2011 18:36 D_smart_S wrote:
They are in the whole of USA, these projects are built with hundreds of billions of your dollars.



Do you even know how much money that is? Are you willing to admit that you just pulled that figure out of your ass? I'd rather "repeat official statements" than just make stuff up.


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Apr 06 2011 21:57. Posts 688

so you really out of everything I said you are debunking me with its not hundreds of billions. Well, fine, its several hundred millions. Is that better? What about my punctuaction?
The fact many people have made similar threads is because they are trying to warn Americans. Even MTV have one or two 'ads' when they try to warn the public. But its subtle, of course, since the conflict of interest that arises. You do realise that MTV has a huge audience and putting these clips is actually pretty frightening. It's not like the director has decided to be joking with WW2 and jews and all that. People are trying to warn Americans. That's all. You can mock me now but very soon you would know what those warnings were for.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speechLast edit: 06/04/2011 21:59

egood   United States. Apr 06 2011 23:29. Posts 1883


  On April 06 2011 17:39 D_smart_S wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +




You do know that last video is from the onion, a joke news site, right?


blackjacki2   United States. Apr 06 2011 23:34. Posts 2581


  On April 06 2011 20:57 D_smart_S wrote:
so you really out of everything I said you are debunking me with its not hundreds of billions. Well, fine, its several hundred millions. Is that better? What about my punctuaction?



Well it's kind of hard to debunk what you're saying because all you're saying are a few vague things followed by "hence martial law is imminent."

Let's take for example one of your videos. The video with Bill Gates talking about global warmining. Do you care to elaborate on what that video is alleging? It's essentially saying that Bill Gates is using a nice chunk of his personal fortune to try to sterilize Africans so that the human population is reduced and there are less CO2 emissions. How can you post this in a serious manner when the concept is so incredibly stupid. Do you think sterilizing Africans is going to effect CO2 emissions? You and I put together probably have a bigger carbon footprint than an entire village in Africa. Even if it did make a difference, what would he gain from it? He will be dead before global warming could possibly effect his life in any negative way. He has no personal benefit from this. So he is just going to use his time, effort, and personal fortune to sterilize Africans just for the hell of it? He is a philanthropist that has given away BILLIONS to charity but in your distorted view of the world he is evil. Good lord..

edit: btw just to inform you of what Gates meant by vaccines and healthcare leading to lower population..

It's no secret that the countries with the lowest population growth are developed nations. Some European countries even have a negative population growth, or they would without immigration. People in developing nations have more kids. Part of that reason is because healthcare is bad and you don't know how long your kid is going to live so you might as well have several in case they die. Offspring are needed to help support the family as well as support the parents when they get old because nobody wants to die alone, and as was said, there are no good nursing homes to support them because health care is bad. This is a very basic concept in political science, and how someone can overlook it to mean that Bill Gates wants to sterilize Africans is so ridiculous it's funny.

 Last edit: 06/04/2011 23:45

 
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