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trying to have a rational debate on this forum about politics, religion, conspiracies, whatever theories etc etc is like bashing your head into the wall over and over while a 7 foot tall black man with a 12 inch cock is ramming you from behind.

fun stuff.

Palak, repeat with me slowly and put the gum out of your mouth. If the government is hiding the truth and you want to investigate IF that is the case, you should not believe in their statements! You should go to another independent source with no profit from being on either side. You see, we are arguing and I am saying "the government is lying" and you are saying "no, look what I've found that will prove you wrong - the government says that they are not lying in this document/site of theirs!" Dude, you can't ask the suspect if he is guilty if you are trying to find that out. I told you that exact same thing several times in another thread. I still don't think that you grasp the idea of logic. Let me guide you because your brain won't do it.
1.Investigation - Is the Government lying?
Scenario A - It is not lying to you. So when you ask it "are you lying to me" and he says "I am not lying to you", the government actually says the truth. And you conclude - everything is fine.
Scanerio B - the government is lying to you! You ask it "are you lying to me, bitch?", and he's all like "No man, what'ya talkin bout brotha?" and then you Mr. Palak with your chicken-sized brain come to the conclusion that because you find .edu and .gov sites that debunk the conspiracy theory, THEREFORE the theory is debunked.

Do you see the logic flaw, can you point it to me, Palak?
Man, I am serious, your brain is made in a way that IF the Government is lying to you, you would never in a million years realise it. It's just an intellectual barrier. Try to practise with Scenario A and Scenario B and see what you should tweak in your thinking in order to not be a low IQ dummy.

On April 07 2011 14:50 D_smart_S wrote: Dude, all you need is a brain to think. You can check everything to its source and find if it is true or not. I don't want anyone to believe me. I am not an authority figure. Evidence has no authority! You should look at the evidence, learn about the process of determining whether or not its valuable or false and then decide for yourself. If I tell you I am homeless, but I am supporting the same theory supported by Ph. D's, successful engeneers, and intellectuals, then how does that change the evidence? Ofcourse, now u are arguing with me, but if I was Ron Paul (supports 100% of my story), and I present you with the same evidence, nothing has changed. I am posting vids and clips many of them containing authority figures, official documents examined, experts interviewed. So it is not like I am pulling things out of my ass. Arguing with me is the same as arguing with those on my side. Don't believe me. Just think and come to conclusions but only after reasearching. This thread is a small piece of all the evidence on the topics. I am not going to reveal anything about myself unless I want to. I don't see any benefit for me doing so as of now.

Unfortunately for you a brain does not qualify you as an expert in any of the relevant fields pertaining to 9/11.

My point is your not qualified to research this or to have an informed opinion unless you have a degree or life experience in the fields. Sure you can spout some shit about anyone can have an opinion etc and that's fine but don't pretend it's an informed one because you've done 3 hours of 'research'. And lets quantify your 'research' while we are on the subject. I have a little theory that your entire body of research is based on youtube and web pages. Am I close? Have you talked to any credible experts yourself? Have you visited any sites (not of the internet variety)? Undertaken a course/bought text books etc in engineering or various other areas pertaining to 9/11? Have you even looked into the backgrounds of the people whose words you take as lore?

I'm not arguing with Ron Paul I'm arguing with YOU. Ron isn't here, why do YOU believe that your theory is correct based on 2nd, 3rd....nth hand accounts of 'evidence' from a minority of people. If you were a demolition expert for 20 years and have destroyed countless buildings and know the exact pattern and logistics of a building going down then like I said I'll apologise and you would have at least some ounce of an informed opinion.

On April 07 2011 20:05 D_smart_S wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Palak, repeat with me slowly and put the gum out of your mouth. If the government is hiding the truth and you want to investigate IF that is the case, you should not believe in their statements! You should go to another independent source with no profit from being on either side. You see, we are arguing and I am saying "the government is lying" and you are saying "no, look what I've found that will prove you wrong - the government says that they are not lying in this document/site of theirs!" Dude, you can't ask the suspect if he is guilty if you are trying to find that out. I told you that exact same thing several times in another thread. I still don't think that you grasp the idea of logic. Let me guide you because your brain won't do it. 1.Investigation - Is the Government lying? Scenario A - It is not lying to you. So when you ask it "are you lying to me" and he says "I am not lying to you", the government actually says the truth. And you conclude - everything is fine. Scanerio B - the government is lying to you! You ask it "are you lying to me, bitch?", and he's all like "No man, what'ya talkin bout brotha?" and then you Mr. Palak with your chicken-sized brain come to the conclusion that because you find .edu and .gov sites that debunk the conspiracy theory, THEREFORE the theory is debunked. Do you see the logic flaw, can you point it to me, Palak? Man, I am serious, your brain is made in a way that IF the Government is lying to you, you would never in a million years realise it. It's just an intellectual barrier. Try to practise with Scenario A and Scenario B and see what you should tweak in your thinking in order to not be a low IQ dummy.

I dont think i have posted a single government source. Just because an independent like popular mechanics doesnt agree with u doesnt mean its government run.

EDIT: Yep not a single .gov source...also .edu does not mean it's a governmental institution, it means it's a school. Are you really going to say all data from any school or professor hired at a university is completely irrelevant to any discussion just because they post it on a .edu website instead of choosing to post it on a .com website?

On April 07 2011 16:17 taco wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2011 11:29 VanDerMeyde wrote: U.S government has every real evidence there is You are the type of person that ruined the word 'conspiracy' and made it mean 'conspiracy where the conspirators are of supernatural or superhuman cunning or power'. For that I hate you.

HATE me ? LOL !!!

So much hating in this world. Where is the love

On April 07 2011 14:50 D_smart_S wrote: Dude, all you need is a brain to think. You can check everything to its source and find if it is true or not. I don't want anyone to believe me. I am not an authority figure. Evidence has no authority! You should look at the evidence, learn about the process of determining whether or not its valuable or false and then decide for yourself. If I tell you I am homeless, but I am supporting the same theory supported by Ph. D's, successful engeneers, and intellectuals, then how does that change the evidence?

For someone so lubed up about evidence and facts you sure provide absolutely none. Still waiting for the source that shows palak pulling facts out of his ass btw. Its really getting ridicilous, you said that almost everything he has posted so far is wrong so you have plenty of things to choose from and yet you havent come up with a single one. Cmon man whats taking so long?

On April 07 2011 12:55 asdf2000 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2011 10:02 palak wrote: EDIT: asdf links to   I read about NORAD stand down, I read about repeated lies by the media. I read about warnings to top officials not to fly on 9/11. I read about insurance collected from the WTT collapses, I read about gold that comes up missing post collapse and no one questions it. I read about confiscated videos and tapes that are then never released. I read about revealing quotes from top officials. I read about the official list of hijackers and how UTTERLY FULL OF SHIT it is. I see how we go into the middle east but never catch osama bin laden, yet we can get plenty of interviews/videos from him right? I read about stock movements just prior to 9/11. The list goes on and on man ? REALLY? REALLY?????? most of this is common knowledge to anyone who has done even a fucking ounce of research on the matter and you're going to make me find links to it all? the norad stand down may not have actually been a stand down but the fact is norad let those planes fly into the WTT and the pentagon and whatever the excuse is it's a rather large coincidence don't you think? I mean how often are planes hijacked and attempted to fly into buildings. but the one time it does happen norad is too busy/confused to stop it. personally I think there was a stand down as the alternative (war games confusion) is fucking ridiculous. this doesn't need a link, it's a fact. norad didn't stop the jets.   NORAD, responsible for intercepting errant aircraft over the U.S., has a standard operating procedure for scrambling planes for interception which takes less than 15 minutes They did this successfully (on time) 129 times in 2000 and and 67 times between September 2000 and June 2001. Yet, on September 11th, they failed to do their job 4 times in a single day: http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/03/norad-stand-down-in-2-minutes.html (more links contained within that link) actually im done. i was gonna find links for the other stuff but anything i post is gonna be undermined, the source credibility is going to be called into questioned rather than any attempt to verify being made. if you want to know if there is any credibility to this stuff then do research yourself, I really don't give a shit. WTC7 is all anyone should ever need to know about to suspect there is some sort of conspiracy.

This is really typical for a conspiracy theorist. "No I dont want anyone the examine the sources for my ridicilous claims cause it might turn out the sources are crap and the claims are false and I already made up my mind." What kind of fucking attitude is that?

Saki why you ignored all my posts ?

i just thought of a conspiracy: the government is brainwashing a portion of of the population into becoming conspiracy theorists so that normal people dont think any conspiracy is legit because of the outrageous conspiracies these brainwashed people are coming up with, therefore making it impossible for a real conspiracy to be taken seriously.

do u guyz think this is legit?

dont bother coming up with any legit factual evidence to counter this statement, cause im not gona listen anyway

On April 08 2011 03:44 Stroggoz wrote: dont bother coming up with any legit factual evidence to counter this statement, cause im not gona listen anyway

I see what you did there...

Oh fuck this is so long.

funny thing is that according to conspiracy theorists the organisation would have involved so many people (Bin Laden and friends, administration, CIA, journalists...) but there is no leak at all (human leak).
I mean WaterGate, Iraq War and others all had their leaks but now that there is so easy way to reveal (thanks Wikileaks) no one involved in this plot stand up and reveal some facts.

And while conspiracy theorists point out some blur points, there are so many which are even more questionable about their theory.

Oh and I used all my reason and what's obvious is conspiracionists all share this big ego : I'm rigth while all of you are wrong. If you are so good at questioning things, please try on yourself. Check if you are really smart, if the information you use is not biased...

On April 08 2011 07:25 kingpowa wrote: Oh fuck this is so long. funny thing is that according to conspiracy theorists the organisation would have involved so many people (Bin Laden and friends, administration, CIA, journalists...) but there is no leak at all (human leak). I mean WaterGate, Iraq War and others all had their leaks but now that there is so easy way to reveal (thanks Wikileaks) no one involved in this plot stand up and reveal some facts. And while conspiracy theorists point out some blur points, there are so many which are even more questionable about their theory. Oh and I used all my reason and what's obvious is conspiracionists all share this big ego : I'm rigth while all of you are wrong. If you are so good at questioning things, please try on yourself. Check if you are really smart, if the information you use is not biased...

Believe it or not most real conspiracy theorists believe wikileaks is/was run by the CIA because when wikileaks released loads of classified government documents, few (if any) of the conspiracy theories were supported.

On April 08 2011 01:13 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2011 16:17 taco wrote:   On April 07 2011 11:29 VanDerMeyde wrote: U.S government has every real evidence there is You are the type of person that ruined the word 'conspiracy' and made it mean 'conspiracy where the conspirators are of supernatural or superhuman cunning or power'. For that I hate you. HATE me ? LOL !!! So much hating in this world. Where is the love

Hate you (being VanDerMeyde on some forum),
wouldn't hate you as a person in real life though.

(But still, I hate you )

Why ? I didnt even understand what u said. According to some poll I saw recently something like 90% of Germans think 9/11 was an inside job too, so u hate all of them as well ?

I honestly dont know, i just think its fun playing with the idea. I also like JFK conspiracy videos