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wasted a couple of years of my life I guess, got hardly anything to show for it except a permanently stress-shriveled brain really.
going to take an indefinite break could be short or long
variance is the farthest thing from mild in this game.. just a headsup
damn I tried so hard
bleh I could be back quickly but im not going to try to make any predictions.
now to face infinite shame as I try to rebuild every aspect of my life as well as face my peers.. i only hope I have the strength of mind left to get back on my feet
i might come back and blog a bit about my time spent as a poker player but idk if I have the energy
thank you to all of you who put forth encouragement, hand advice, etc. over the years.
cu guys later
here's a graph

I do hope to one day make a triumphant return but that seems like a longshot
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traxamillion   United States. Feb 11 2011 16:26. Posts 10468 | | |
you know i'm surprised your whole career from when we played nl20 on cake together till now you only really played 6max cashgames.
player99 inspired me to play some HU sngs and tbh they are a lot softer than any cashgames for similar stakes. might give that a shot and see if you have any success next time you get interested in playing |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 11 2011 16:31. Posts 15163 | | |
NOOOOOOOO! seriously come on bro...you broke the micro barier after so long, just 10k hands back you took shots at NL200, surely you can't quit now?
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 11 2011 16:33. Posts 15163 | | |
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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Feb 11 2011 16:41. Posts 14026 | | |
^ look at that graph, its beautiful.
youre obviously on massive tilt, coz theres no way thats all variance. Expecting to lose/get coolered, thinking youve wasted 2 years of your life and having to face your peers have destroyed your game.
I know its hard to be positive in a position like this, but take a break, identify some places you made mistakes and come back swinging. |
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player999   Brasil. Feb 11 2011 17:00. Posts 7978 | | |
| On February 11 2011 15:26 traxamillion wrote:
you know i'm surprised your whole career from when we played nl20 on cake together till now you only really played 6max cashgames |
this, I played pretty much every game except for Badugi before finding my place, you cant be so close-minded, not everybody can be TTom |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Feb 11 2011 17:32. Posts 4946 | | |
Was that your whole bankroll night? Think it's pretty obvious you probably tilted it off towards the end, even if you dont know it. I know it's hard once you've lost like half of it, you feel you're basically screwed anyway so might as well just keep going till it's all gone. Since you can beat microstakes, I think you should offer some free coaching to micro players or something, just to keep your head in the game and to rebuild your confidence. Helping others puts you in a positive frame of mind, and before you know it you'll be wanting to get back in there at NL50 or NL100 or something you know you can beat. |
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Surprise   United States. Feb 11 2011 17:34. Posts 275 | | |
Only way you've wasted your time is if you quit totally now and don't shake up your approach to the game. Try some new variants and see how it goes. |
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collegesucks   United States. Feb 11 2011 17:38. Posts 5780 | | |
this is not a defeat. now you'll have more time to get your deplorable mmr up. |
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Arirang   Canada. Feb 11 2011 17:55. Posts 1673 | | |
I disagree with the people above. I think you should not play poker. And I don't say this to be a huge douchebag. I just feel like maybe you can't handle the variance if you get emotionally destroyed as this. I mean, I don't think I've had it as bad as you have. But I know that what you are going through right now is not the first, and certainly not the last. And most definitely, not the worst. |
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SnorLax   United States. Feb 11 2011 18:00. Posts 22 | | |
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Zep   United States. Feb 11 2011 18:19. Posts 2292 | | |
to be honest with you it looks like you simply went through a standard 10 buy in down swing at 200nl and just got screwed by variance for double the amount. It's only 12k hands man, it can't say that much about your game. Just remember, a win is never as good as it looks and a loss is never as bad as it seems. If you busted your bankroll, i would definitely redeposit and continue to grind whatever stakes you're most comfortable with. And if you did busto, it's pretty obvious a 20 buy in shot is going to be suicidal in the future. I think giving up now after some major improvements you've made within your game over the last year would be a huge mistake. GL with all this no matter what you choose. |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Feb 11 2011 18:31. Posts 4946 | | |
| On February 11 2011 17:19 Zep wrote:
i would definitely redeposit and continue to grind whatever stakes you're most comfortable with. |
nonononon, definitely needs to take a long break. At least a week if not more, to the point that he's no longer depressed about the losses but drooling at getting back in there. |
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YouGoTGoT   United States. Feb 11 2011 18:43. Posts 1118 | | |
| On February 11 2011 17:00 SnorLax wrote:
play plo free money |
Great suggestion for Night who has issues dealing with variance |
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chris   United States. Feb 11 2011 19:16. Posts 5505 | | |
lol at everyone begging night not to quit. let him take time off jesus.
some real advice man: i was in similar position to you. i think you should just go back to school/get a job and live life outside poker for a bit. after some weeks (months for me) you may get a desire to play. what will happen is, you will keep checking LP, you will see things happen that make you think "i remember when i was doing that." you can deposit some small amount of money online and for fun, in your spare time, play on the side. you will do that for a while and after winning at poker again, you will be tempted to just dive right back into it, but you will be smart and you won't. you will keep working, building a safety net for the future with resume experience, at the same time as building a roll. eventually you will reach a desirable stake (probably 100nl or 200nl again) and will have the cushion to be able to take another shot. you will still be young, you will have saved up money and will have a bankroll, and you will be able to find a job if you need to. you will be able to find a job that you dont really mind doing, that pays you better than minimum wages, and it would be easier in future since you have experience and recommendations.
you need some time off to get your life together. don t let poker fully consume you, or it will ruin you and make you a jaded and depressed. it can change your outlook to pessimistic.
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OpWestAcct   United States. Feb 11 2011 19:17. Posts 640 | | |

I feel ya. I made ~$50 off my last twelve flopped sets.
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chris   United States. Feb 11 2011 19:23. Posts 5505 | | |
also, night, do not feel any shame. you met some cool people, who are your friends, right? that makes the entire ordeal worth it. you got to travel some, meet cool people, experience ups and downs, and lived 'a dream' to a lot of people, even though we know it to be a grind.
take some time off to reflect and everything will be better in time, i promise |
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OpWestAcct   United States. Feb 11 2011 19:47. Posts 640 | | |
Scratch that. I am now even on my last 13 sets. My 55 just lost to AK all in on flop KT5 |
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wah wah wah? standard wah wah wah i cant take it anymore blog |
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Helmet   Philippines. Feb 11 2011 21:20. Posts 930 | | |
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milkman   United States. Feb 11 2011 21:30. Posts 5719 | | |
im really sorry this happened to you man, you worked very hard. But from being in your shoes i would rebuild your life, find other ways to make money, and see if you still want to play poker or try and hit more goals.. that way you have other outlets and other ways to have a stable lifestyle.. i did that, and i dont really wanna play anything but live poker, so thats what i do, my exit from playing for a living worked very well and i know its not going to be that easy for everyone, but your a smart guy witha good personality, you can figure this out. But my 2p is not to go back quickly, build and work with any other passion you have in life. If u wanna talk or want help with anything u can always hit me up on msn or aim |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Feb 11 2011 22:21. Posts 8649 | | |
i don't really think i'm in a position to give advice on this matter but just wanna wish you good luck in whatever you end up deciding to do. |
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Jhyun88   United States. Feb 11 2011 22:33. Posts 1383 | | |
This happened to me in 2010.. Was crushing 50nl and moved up to 100nl. Crushing at start then massive downswing.. got frustrated and started losing at 50nl also.
I took about 4 month break away from poker but kept in touch by looking at other people's hands and watching videos.
I picked it back up in January and crushing 100nl and 200nl so far :x
Take a break man. It will reset your mind and you'll play well again. |
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Uptown   . Feb 11 2011 22:36. Posts 3557 | | |
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mnj   United States. Feb 11 2011 22:49. Posts 3848 | | |
tough break. all the best though.
i agree with chris wholeheartedly.
read saki's blog and even engage's blog when he went through the down swing. it helped me get some perspective on both life outside of poker as well poker itself. |
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YoMeR   United States. Feb 11 2011 23:34. Posts 12438 | | |
o you'll be back. they always come back.
i've been to busto ville more times i can count. and it's not a fun place to be in. It's all about perspective and approach to this game. |
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player999   Brasil. Feb 12 2011 04:05. Posts 7978 | | |
| On February 11 2011 22:34 YoMeR wrote:
i've been to busto ville more times i can count. |
QFT
I think everyone in here can say that, just dont worry and be happy |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Feb 12 2011 04:43. Posts 4946 | | |
Eh? I thought everyone here started with $10 and never made a single deposit |
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maryn   Poland. Feb 12 2011 08:53. Posts 1208 | | |

found on 2p2
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Chewits   United Kingdom. Feb 12 2011 11:22. Posts 2539 | | |
lol, that is one swingy graph ! |
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player999   Brasil. Feb 12 2011 20:16. Posts 7978 | | |
| On February 12 2011 03:43 NewbSaibot wrote:
Eh? I thought everyone here started with $10 and never made a single deposit |
still, downers like night's are common, that make you go semi-busto |
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