poor guy needs help

Hey,

I saw this on another forum and feel really terrible for this guy. I'm convinced he's legit and LPers are rich.

http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=2491.0

Cliff notes:
- Newborn's lungs collapsed.
- Bank added fees pushing him into debt.
- Paycheck - fees left him with $10
- Employer gives him 1 day left for leave.
- Landlord gives him a month.
- Mother is desperately sick in hospital.
- Landlord kicks him out 1 month later; "I don't give a fucking shit, all your shit is going in the trash, you're gonna need to dig it out or it'll be gone by tomorrow."
- Steals all his expensive shit (TV, computer, ...) & keeps his deposit.
- Moves into hotel.
- Mother is cheating and an alcholic... Moves in with her new boyfriend.
- Mother is now doing cocaine and prostitution.
- Mother no-longer wants child and refuses to help.
- Parents busted by IRS but looking after children (it seems).
- Homeless & broke.

This guy really has it tough!

I'm convinced he's legit because when I asked for proof he posted just the name of his ex, then after refreshing the page I saw that he's edited it to replace it with a myspace links to photo-albums and a longer description.

The photo albums and the blog on the myspace are entirely consistent with the story he has portrayed so far. Additionally someone else found links to other forums where he's been cross posting the same info. The dates of his posted timeline and web history match up.

Photos:
http://www.myspace.com/delusionaldrun...c=SitesPhotos_SP_AlbumCover_ViewAlbum
http://www.myspace.com/delusionaldrun...c=SitesPhotos_SP_AlbumCover_ViewAlbum
Blog:
http://www.myspace.com/delusionaldrunkenhostess/blog

I don't know this guy at all, but I gave him a little something to help & I think you should too! Even if it's not money but an offer to pay for a place for him to stay or send him gifts to help out. He's obviously not some degenerate as if you check his past web history, he has an interest in web programming and computers. He just made a bad choice of woman who fucked him over!

His paypal is skostemart@gmail.com
His email is waffers@gmail.com

I am not sure this is serious

http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=2491.0

read the thread and decide for yourself. I'm genjix. FreeMoney is a mid-stakes reg. (if that matters)

He posted a pic I asked for:



Here's his myspace pic dated from 11 Jun 2009
http://www.myspace.com/delusionaldrun...s#mssrc=SitesPhotos_PP_Breadcrumbs_SP
(Little Lily)


Here's his ex's blog postings from a year ago fully consistent with his story.

http://www.myspace.com/delusionaldrunkenhostess/blog

Seems a bit elaborate to plan this for a year to gain $300 (at most)

On December 28 2010 02:36 WhereDaHoneyz wrote: Seems a bit elaborate to plan this for a year to gain $300 (at most)

Spending one year on a plan to gain $300 doesn't sound very cost effective either though.
Then again, you're/he's holding a real baby. Pictures don't lie.

- Employer gives him 1 day left for leave.


Isn't this illegal? Or even if it is legal, couldn't he have applied for unemployment benefits?

he should sell his computer

Just skimming im quite convinced this is a skewed version of the truth. I have a friend who is like this (well kinda ex-friend), he basically would turn a standard variance of life into the worst thing ever happened to him. He is a big emo basically. I cant stand him anymore.

I could be completely ignorant and wrong though here. But, I mean how has he no money? He says that on those forums. Yet hes on the internet, which would entail he must have at least a laptop. And he says his landlord "stole his stuff". Come on? Why not go to police and get them to look into it? Also, you can get help with bank fees if you cannot afford it.

This has to be a skewed version of the truth.

i wonder if he permanently has that sad panda face, or if he just pulls it out for pictures? btw, this is sad and all, but give me a break, there's tons of people out there who are way worse off than this guy is - as previously mentioned, he has a laptop, internet, is indoors, is shaven, and well.. whatever

Yeah, and he has paper and a marker to write genjix on!!

On December 28 2010 06:13 Jun wrote: Yeah, and he has paper and a marker to write genjix on!!

it's hard to be in a home, writing blogs/posting pics from a webcam, begging to people on the internet when you're.... homeless?
edit: oh, he's living in a hotel (explains him not actually being homeless), and his parents are taking care of the baby? give me a break, get a new fucking job

it's one thing to discuss your life situation to people, and express yourself to try to improve your mental health/morale, but it's another thing just being a lazy bastard who is looking for a free buck. less posting, more working

also, umm... his profile on bitcoin
Date Registered: Today at 06:14 am - heh

final edit: just read through the thread - looks like he is working, but just needs a few bucks for a place to stay until his cheque comes in (which should be in just a couple days apparently). well, sorry about jumping to conclusions earlier, just hear too many sob stories from people looking for handouts when they're truly just lazy bastards.

sad story, if true. well, good luck to him, and big ups to you for donating $46 to his cause.

from genjix's advice in that forum:

"One easy thing is just going into a restaurant (think MacDonalds) and eating people's leftover meals- it's not that bad as you image because people are people just like you and me. Often people actually leave quite a lot of leftovers and you can get a good meal."

wooooow

looooooooool @ genjix's advice :D
Sounds like he has done it too. Hmmn.

Just wondering whether him misspelling genjix is intentional.

who spends $600 on kitchen knives

There's a million people out there who live a much thougher life then this kid, if u arent financialy ready dont make children, he obv has a laptop, and lives in a hotel ffs.
I really dont give a shit, the first thing i would do is look for a job or find a relative who can help me out, the last thing is begging for money on a pokerforum.

right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

I sent 50 USD, probably throwing money down the drain. If not, it'll give him food for a few days.

idk.

On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

"There are terrible things in this world, and this one bad thing so I will not do this good thing."

What a sorry argument...

If you see a person laying in the street wounded, maybe rationalise to yourself that well, he probably gets better & there's tons more people who have it worse off in the world... hope you see how silly that argument is.

On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

Best argument to never do anything. nice.

On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

word

On December 28 2010 10:01 WhereDaHoneyz wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe? "There are terrible things in this world, and this one bad thing so I will not do this good thing." What a sorry argument... If you see a person laying in the street wounded, maybe rationalise to yourself that well, he probably gets better & there's tons more people who have it worse off in the world... hope you see how silly that argument is.

Hi genjix,

could you elaborate on the mcdonalds leftover thing? don't people at mcdonalds generally dump the leftovers on their trays into the garbage? i don't think i've ever really seen people at any fastfood place like that leave their food on the table.

or do you mean you just stand around a mcdonalds and wait for someone to finish eating and when they're about to get up and dump their tray you hurry over and grab their leftovers? i can't get this out of my head, i'm really having a hard time imagining exactly how this would work.

WhereDaHoneyz and Kingpowa you guys are prob utter morons if you think nolan would never do anything nice in his life because of that post.

On December 28 2010 10:01 WhereDaHoneyz wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe? "There are terrible things in this world, and this one bad thing so I will not do this good thing." What a sorry argument... If you see a person laying in the street wounded, maybe rationalise to yourself that well, he probably gets better & there's tons more people who have it worse off in the world... hope you see how silly that argument is.

The thing is, if you want to do something good - there are a lot better and more urgent targets than a white trash guy living in a hotel with a baby. There's no real argument for this guy to go "pass" those who are more in need except that he has a friggin' laptop and can beg for money in more creative ways.

The argument is not whether he needs help but whether there are people who need even more help and the latter is clearly true. Someone really looking to donate to a good cause can probably get a fuckton of more people happy with $50 than just giving it to this guy. The situation would obviously be different if someone knew this guy in person. Then that guy could help out a friend obviously.

The more I think of it, I'm an idiot for giving him money.

I'll blame it on christmas and feeling generous, and him and I being from two totally different worlds and it being the morning when I read it and feeling tired.

There is still a tiny % that this is legit, and it might have helped. But odds are against that.

-.-; 'bank added fees'

no i promise they didn't - it was more like he didn't pay his bills and now there is a levy on his account deducting his paychecks

if he really wanted to he could always stop his direct deposit and cash his checks at the bank where his check is drawn off of.

On December 28 2010 08:42 Jun wrote: There's a million people out there who live a much thougher life then this kid, if u arent financialy ready dont make children, he obv has a laptop, and lives in a hotel ffs. I really dont give a shit, the first thing i would do is look for a job or find a relative who can help me out, the last thing is begging for money on a pokerforum.

poor people seem to have nothing else to do except have kids

On December 28 2010 11:25 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 08:42 Jun wrote: There's a million people out there who live a much thougher life then this kid, if u arent financialy ready dont make children, he obv has a laptop, and lives in a hotel ffs. I really dont give a shit, the first thing i would do is look for a job or find a relative who can help me out, the last thing is begging for money on a pokerforum. poor people seem to have nothing else to do except have kids

word again.

all the more reason to start charging a baby tax
doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family

On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

yea dude, earlier this year LP raised the 700$ to bring water to two different villages in uganda.. thats like hundreds of people that have access to clean water now.. theres food banks and shit like that for people in his case.. im not saying no one should help him, but he needs to help his self instead of going on some internet rampage to get free money.. and money could be better spent to help more people in more need.. but then again theres always someone who needs more help than the next guy..

Someone teach him how to play poker. Feed a fish and it's fed for a day but turn it into a shark and it never has to ask for food again.

On December 28 2010 10:24 wobbly_au wrote: WhereDaHoneyz and Kingpowa you guys are prob utter morons if you think nolan would never do anything nice in his life because of that post.

Did he or I say say that Nolan would never do anything nice because of that post ?

When you face someone, group of people, a cause or you could help, if you think that your it would be better to give your money to someone which is in a worse situation, it is a good way to somewhat procrastinate the help you can offer. I don't think giving to charity is about helping the people more in need but to someone you know you will simply help.

I do feel some empathy for the guy, it does'nt imply that I will give him money, but it does mean that I won't say "gtfo you beggar".

But you may be an utter moron for putting words in people mouth which they never said, and I hope what Tom wrote was cynic.

He should go all in on megamillions

This is exactly the type of back story that lottery winners have, which will drastically increases his chances of scooping the jackpot.

On December 28 2010 15:05 kingpowa wrote: When you face someone, group of people, a cause or you could help, if you think that your it would be better to give your money to someone which is in a worse situation, it is a good way to somewhat procrastinate the help you can offer. I don't think giving to charity is about helping the people more in need but to someone you know you will simply help..

Given that these people who haven't given money to charity before, giving it to this cause would simply be silly. It's not so much "well, you say you're going to give it to charity later" as much as "since they haven't helped those more in need, why should they help this guy now":

Sure that story is tragic and shit, whether it's true or not but doesn't warrant all the fuzz this thread is creating. For every story like this, there are 100+ even worse. Starting to fund idiots who get themselves into trouble by getting a kid while they can't support 'em with their income is a sure way to lose money on a vain cause. Pretty sure there are tons of people like this and the lil' boohoo and a sad background music with a storyteller telling about their tragic past and the american dream don't make 'em any more special.

There are people dying there who could use the help. The fact that you haven't helped them doesn't imply that you should help this guy. If anything, it should make it clear that you're not going to. Priorities man, priorities.

wtf genjix... u were like me defending the position not to donate to haiti bc we all know what happens to relief aid money... there are way better causes than this and the arguement to donate to this guy is not from logic but is an appeal to emotion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

please LP do not donate to this cause ur money is more lifesaving if u donate to fight hunger in africa and across the world. 100K ppl a day die because they dont have food/clean drinking water. I doubt less than 10 mentally sane people a year die in the US from starvation unless they're attempting world records or get trapped or some shit

and for ppl making fun of genjix if he scavenged, shame on urselves. Don't forget to make fun of me for having to sleep on park benches every now and then when I was in highschool.

On December 28 2010 12:54 Bigbobm wrote: all the more reason to start charging a baby tax doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family

this is an interesting idea, you charge people something affordable something like $500 to have a kid. This will prevent a lot of retards from reproducing

if ur thinking of donating Charity Navigator is the best place to find info and find the right organization you want to donate to for the cause that you want to support


http://www.charitynavigator.org/

On December 28 2010 14:27 milkman wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe? yea dude, earlier this year LP raised the 700$ to bring water to two different villages in uganda.. thats like hundreds of people that have access to clean water now.. theres food banks and shit like that for people in his case.. im not saying no one should help him, but he needs to help his self instead of going on some internet rampage to get free money.. and money could be better spent to help more people in more need.. but then again theres always someone who needs more help than the next guy..

this was something i supported . If an old man next to you needs help, that involves convenience and allows for a functioning society but donating to this guy is like buying expensive rims for ur car when afterwards you won't have enough money to fix ur busted engine

his problem obviously isn't coming from money issues. it's cuz he's failing hardcore at life.

being poor + having baby = massive life fail.

Giving him money isn't going to really solve his problems. It's kinda like giving the drug/alcoholic bum money. It ain't gonna do shit to help his situation. coupons ftw ;D

and ya wat in the fuck. if he has it so bad how the fuck is he getting on the intarwebs w his COMPUTER + INTERNET. to beg people for monies.

I'm all for donating to good causes but this doesn't seem like one of em.

On December 28 2010 06:56 bigredhoss wrote: from genjix's advice in that forum: Show nested quote + "One easy thing is just going into a restaurant (think MacDonalds) and eating people's leftover meals- it's not that bad as you image because people are people just like you and me. Often people actually leave quite a lot of leftovers and you can get a good meal." wooooow

Much better to hang around a drive through and yank the food when it's handed to the car.

reminds me of something my hs history teacher said, people complain so much about being poor and never having enough money then you go to their house and you see cable tv, car with ridiculous loan, internet, pizza boxes and fast food bags/other junk food, etc. etc.

On December 28 2010 11:25 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 08:42 Jun wrote: There's a million people out there who live a much thougher life then this kid, if u arent financialy ready dont make children, he obv has a laptop, and lives in a hotel ffs. I really dont give a shit, the first thing i would do is look for a job or find a relative who can help me out, the last thing is begging for money on a pokerforum. poor people seem to have nothing else to do except have kids

Don't forget watching Nascar.

On December 28 2010 19:45 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 12:54 Bigbobm wrote: all the more reason to start charging a baby tax doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family this is an interesting idea, you charge people something affordable something like $500 to have a kid. This will prevent a lot of retards from reproducing

No it won't. People will still have sex and think that they won't get pregnant. All a measure like that would do is put an increased burden of suffering on the child. I'm surprised someone as smart as you would actually think such an idea could work. Oh and before you make a counter-argument about using abortion don't forget there is a significant number of people who just can't go through with that for whatever personal reasons. Rationally if you're poor and get pregnant we'd think them stupid to have the baby anyways but for a lot of people it's not a rational decision.

I don't think I would ever donate to this guy but he has a much better beg than this $200k student loan chick at http://www.edulender.com/twohundredthou/

On December 28 2010 20:41 barbieman wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 06:56 bigredhoss wrote: from genjix's advice in that forum:   "One easy thing is just going into a restaurant (think MacDonalds) and eating people's leftover meals- it's not that bad as you image because people are people just like you and me. Often people actually leave quite a lot of leftovers and you can get a good meal." wooooow Much better to hang around a drive through and yank the food when it's handed to the car.

don't they always collect the money first anyway?

Cool story bro.


Anyone else have a hard time believing this?

i might believe it if genjix had the courage to answer my mcdonalds questions

On December 28 2010 21:46 bigredhoss wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 20:41 barbieman wrote:   On December 28 2010 06:56 bigredhoss wrote: from genjix's advice in that forum:   "One easy thing is just going into a restaurant (think MacDonalds) and eating people's leftover meals- it's not that bad as you image because people are people just like you and me. Often people actually leave quite a lot of leftovers and you can get a good meal." wooooow Much better to hang around a drive through and yank the food when it's handed to the car. don't they always collect the money first anyway?

yeah, but we're assuming the bum is outside of the car, and not paying for the food. grab it when they're passing it over. however, in this case, it's quite possible the 'bum' owns a car and probably eats out semi-regularly. too broke to buy a meal, so rich you don't gotta worry about making kids

On December 28 2010 21:09 Bejamin1 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 19:45 TalentedTom wrote:   On December 28 2010 12:54 Bigbobm wrote: all the more reason to start charging a baby tax doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family this is an interesting idea, you charge people something affordable something like $500 to have a kid. This will prevent a lot of retards from reproducing No it won't. People will still have sex and think that they won't get pregnant. All a measure like that would do is put an increased burden of suffering on the child. I'm surprised someone as smart as you would actually think such an idea could work. Oh and before you make a counter-argument about using abortion don't forget there is a significant number of people who just can't go through with that for whatever personal reasons. Rationally if you're poor and get pregnant we'd think them stupid to have the baby anyways but for a lot of people it's not a rational decision.

well if you make the tax something significant i think people will start to second guess the idea of abortion, or at least invest more in birth control etc. regardless, that wasn't the main point, the main point was that tax money goes to subsidize these massive welfare families and its working as nothing but an incentive.

Long con.

Stay away.

On December 28 2010 10:20 bigredhoss wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 10:01 WhereDaHoneyz wrote:   On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe? "There are terrible things in this world, and this one bad thing so I will not do this good thing." What a sorry argument... If you see a person laying in the street wounded, maybe rationalise to yourself that well, he probably gets better & there's tons more people who have it worse off in the world... hope you see how silly that argument is. Hi genjix, could you elaborate on the mcdonalds leftover thing? don't people at mcdonalds generally dump the leftovers on their trays into the garbage? i don't think i've ever really seen people at any fastfood place like that leave their food on the table. or do you mean you just stand around a mcdonalds and wait for someone to finish eating and when they're about to get up and dump their tray you hurry over and grab their leftovers? i can't get this out of my head, i'm really having a hard time imagining exactly how this would work.

only chumps clean their own trays away at a fast food restaurant.

It must be some good pokerin' in here becouse I'mma smellin' something (enter witty catch-word here)

fishy?

On December 29 2010 00:14 Bigbobm wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 21:09 Bejamin1 wrote:   On December 28 2010 19:45 TalentedTom wrote:   On December 28 2010 12:54 Bigbobm wrote: all the more reason to start charging a baby tax doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family this is an interesting idea, you charge people something affordable something like $500 to have a kid. This will prevent a lot of retards from reproducing No it won't. People will still have sex and think that they won't get pregnant. All a measure like that would do is put an increased burden of suffering on the child. I'm surprised someone as smart as you would actually think such an idea could work. Oh and before you make a counter-argument about using abortion don't forget there is a significant number of people who just can't go through with that for whatever personal reasons. Rationally if you're poor and get pregnant we'd think them stupid to have the baby anyways but for a lot of people it's not a rational decision. well if you make the tax something significant i think people will start to second guess the idea of abortion, or at least invest more in birth control etc. regardless, that wasn't the main point, the main point was that tax money goes to subsidize these massive welfare families and its working as nothing but an incentive.

We should castrate all people with an IQ below 100, decreases population, decreases the % of children who has to grow up in the conditions as his child must, etc etc etc.

On December 28 2010 19:45 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 12:54 Bigbobm wrote: all the more reason to start charging a baby tax doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family this is an interesting idea, you charge people something affordable something like $500 to have a kid. This will prevent a lot of retards from reproducing

No it wont

On December 31 2010 04:46 jantje123 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2010 00:14 Bigbobm wrote:   On December 28 2010 21:09 Bejamin1 wrote:   On December 28 2010 19:45 TalentedTom wrote:   On December 28 2010 12:54 Bigbobm wrote: all the more reason to start charging a baby tax doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family this is an interesting idea, you charge people something affordable something like $500 to have a kid. This will prevent a lot of retards from reproducing No it won't. People will still have sex and think that they won't get pregnant. All a measure like that would do is put an increased burden of suffering on the child. I'm surprised someone as smart as you would actually think such an idea could work. Oh and before you make a counter-argument about using abortion don't forget there is a significant number of people who just can't go through with that for whatever personal reasons. Rationally if you're poor and get pregnant we'd think them stupid to have the baby anyways but for a lot of people it's not a rational decision. well if you make the tax something significant i think people will start to second guess the idea of abortion, or at least invest more in birth control etc. regardless, that wasn't the main point, the main point was that tax money goes to subsidize these massive welfare families and its working as nothing but an incentive. We should castrate all people with an IQ below 100, decreases population, decreases the % of children who has to grow up in the conditions as his child must, etc etc etc.

u'd like early 1940s germany

i think this genjix guy needs a lifetime ban

Also, hearing about my old grand parent's stories about living in third world south korea ( was the 3rd poorest economy in the world during that time right after the korean war ) and how they overcame their obstacles is quite the inspiration. Then hearing about a random guy who's too lazy to put in the hard work to feed his kid is very very depressing to me.

Imagine being a widowed woman in a 3rd world country while all your dead husband left you was massive gambling debts and 4 children to feed.

THAT'S a fuck our lives moment.

On December 28 2010 05:13 Chewits wrote: Just skimming im quite convinced this is a skewed version of the truth. I have a friend who is like this (well kinda ex-friend), he basically would turn a standard variance of life into the worst thing ever happened to him. He is a big emo basically. I cant stand him anymore. This has to be a skewed version of the truth.

this

if all this is true, then I feel very bad for him and could possibly send some money that doesnt matter to me, but I feel this is all an exaggeration or maybe even a complete lie.

On December 31 2010 20:12 YoMeR wrote: Also, hearing about my old grand parent's stories about living in third world south korea ( was the 3rd poorest economy in the world during that time right after the korean war ) and how they overcame their obstacles is quite the inspiration. Then hearing about a random guy who's too lazy to put in the hard work to feed his kid is very very depressing to me.

lol word

like this story

http://news1.capitalbay.com/news/lord_young_quits_over_britain.html

he said Britain "never had it so good" and people went mental. In actual fact right now the UK does have it good, youll get benefits for unemployment, a council house, child support, free schooling and free health care.

It was only 70 years ago people were literally rebuilding their lives and country, rationing food etc.

heh. where i live it's kinda getting close to that still like that for a lot of people