Zeitgeist movie/documentry - Page 3

On November 22 2010 19:41 Xervean wrote: Scroll up and check out the pictures I added of molten steel, the fire fighters testimony, and the coverup of the George Washington Bridge bomb attempt.

if you have 110 floors of concrete, steel, other metals, and of course everything that was in each of those floors, which i would say is quite a fucking ton of weight, crash down causing a huge amount of friction, everything will heat up. Try rubbing your hands together. the faster you do it the hotter it gets. Imagine thousands of tons of materials crashing down. do you honestly not believe that it will stay in its normal temperature on a normal day?

On November 22 2010 20:09 Xervean wrote: You don't pay off cops because the more people who are brought in on the conspiracy the more likely it is that it will be discovered. You would basically hire a black ops team and that would be the extent of your exposure. That website doesn't prove anything. The video I posted rapes your theory of aluminum.

u didn't read the website, u literally just glanced through and said o it doesn't prove anything cuz my youtube videos are better.

and the cops thing is you just agreeing with my whole problem with your conspiracy theory, why the fuck would u pay to have people bring down the towers which requires buying the silence of at least a hundred people (demolition crews, security guards, people who wondered in, etc) when all they needed to do was make sure bush let the attacks occur which was as simple as just letting GW be himself. Why get into such a complicated attack as demolishing two skyscrapers when Chaney simply saying "Bin Laden isn't a real threat" would have gotten the exact same results

I guarantee that it wont create a temperature of 2750 degrees and melt steel

Here is another good video

There was a power down condition in the towers on 9/8 and 9/9. There was no power for approximately 36 hours and tons of "engineers" and "technicians" going in and out of the towers. This was when the bombs were planted.

the only difference you're going to make here is that you're going to eventually run out of tin foil.

If you watch the video I posted you will see that aluminum turns silver when molten within seconds no matter what it is mixed with. If you look at the pictures I posted you will see orange molten steel on the ground loooooooong after the towers have collapsed. Anyways I am done posting. Believe what you want.

On November 22 2010 20:25 Xervean wrote: I guarantee that it wont create a temperature of 2750 degrees and melt steel

how do u magically know that through ur own advanced training in physics and engineering. You do realize that thermite is not used in building demolitions, TNT and such are which also do not melt metal but just blow it away. You do not need to melt the metal in order to cause it to collapse. So the conspiracy theorists you are proposing are super advanced to place explosives and hire thousands of engineers which enter the building on 9/9 from the 50th floor and up, yet they for some dumbfuck reason not only use thermite for no reason whatsoever but also forget to pay off the cops on the bridge....you just said earlier that "one black ops" team was as much as they needed to pay, yet now you have them paying off dozens of engineers and an entire security crew? Do you listen to your own logic when you make arguments or do you just spout off whatever comes to mind?

the powerdown was only from the 50th floor and higher, demolitions occur on ground floors so no one gives a shit there.

that video is complete shit "i believe it could withstand" o fuckin awesome analysis of a building falling down. he even admits in the video that they were not designed to take the impact of a 747 in the first place, he just thinks they could withstand it.

i wish this argument was w/ baal...he at least tends to have ideas that follow some line of sane logic...i feel like arguing with xervean is the same as arguing w/ a 9 yr old, they just keep saying random shit to try and prove a point and eventually just contradict their own logic over and over yet refuse to admit it (i really hope they are just trolling me). Anyway unless someone brings something worth while into this thread instead of just horribly unqualified statements of science and waste of time youtube videos i'm done w/ it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist:_the_Movie#Scholarly_responses

please delete thread. If I made a thread about how poker is all about luck and there is no skill, I hope it would be taken down... especially if it gave 90% of people the totally wrong idea.

The "engineers" were the black ops team that's why I put quotations around them... No power, no security cameras.. perfect opportunity. Nobody was ever paid off in the entire operation. They were simply supplied with all of the proper credentials and allowed to bypass security and have free reign of the building.

this is probably the 5th Zeitgeist thread in the forum which goes the same way as any of the previous ones ... even i got bored of trolling them srsly
thread could be cliff noted to this :
Religious is obv bullshit ...
USA basically hustles whole world with their Federal Reserve
and WTC collapse is either terrorist attack or pure fail by the government there would be huge amount of motives for both parts but gl unraveling that one

On November 22 2010 19:54 Xervean wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2010 19:48 Feiticeira wrote: here's a question the conspiracy theorists never ask themselves: if there really was a conspiracy to blow up the WTC by the US Government and there is genuine evidence proving it.. why are the only people talking about it retarded conspiracy theorists on the internet? Why aren't the Washington Post or the New York Times printing this shit on the front page? I'm pretty sure a Government conspiracy to kill thousands of American Citizens is a big story. Because people are told what to think on the news and never question anything.

that in no way answers my question: why aren't the media interested in exposing an atrocity committed by the government?

why isn't the media interested in exposing an atrocity committed by the government?
why isn''t the media interested in exposing an atrocity committed by the government?
why isn''t the media interested in exposing an atrocity committed by the government?

can you tell me this?

Also I have not contradicted myself a single time. I have stayed with the same story. You seem to think that if you were planning to blow up the world trade centers you would want to pay off security guards and cops all over the place. This is a TERRIBLE IDEA. Someone will talk before the operation takes place and ruin everything. You would want the building to be evacuated and be given free reign to do whatever you want without paying off a single person. This is exactly what was done.

By the way wasnt there some video where the architect of the WTC says that there is absolutely no way the towers would collapse that way even if 5 planes hit each building

Because the media is controlled by corporations in bed with the US Government. They are told what they can and can't say on the air. If they violate this they will be fired.

Yes spitfiree I posted that video scroll up a bit

On November 22 2010 21:12 Xervean wrote: Because the media is controlled by corporations in bed with the US Government. They are told what they can and can't say on the air. If they violate this they will be fired.

what about BBC or a non-US media source? Do they work for the US Government too?

Bush obv strategerized it all with his huge brain power.

He fooled us all - acting like an idiot throughout his presidency just so no one would expect he would be capable of pulling off the most elaborate scheme of all. NICE TRY!

/troll face

On November 22 2010 21:14 SugoGosu wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2010 21:12 Xervean wrote: Because the media is controlled by corporations in bed with the US Government. They are told what they can and can't say on the air. If they violate this they will be fired. what about BBC or a non-US media source? Do they work for the US Government too?

The BBC is controlled by the British government who is partnered with the US government (and many others) in bringing about the New World Order.

On November 22 2010 21:16 Svenman87 wrote: Bush obv strategerized it all with his huge brain power. He fooled us all - acting like an idiot throughout his presidency just so no one would expect he would be capable of pulling off the most elaborate scheme of all. NICE TRY! /troll face

Bush is a puppet and was likely not involved at all. On 9/11 he was reading a childrens book about a goat and did not react for a long ass time when he was informed of the attacks.

funny stuff thumbs up