Poker bot for sale? - Page 3

On May 13 2010 10:52 byrnesam wrote: its $25k? LOL you could get your own one programmed by some indian/chinese kid for like <$2k easy.

lmao

On May 13 2010 20:42 Floofy wrote: BTW i wonder this.... In limit HU, the best AI are actually becoming better than the best players. So if someone played HU limit, he could just use a second computer where he has some sort of AI that gives him advices based on his hole cards. So any idiot could crush high stakes HU limit o.o (But i doubt it is easy to get your hands on super advanced poker bots, and its definetly not easy to program)

You know this gives me an idea. I used to run only Linux as my primary OS and when I wanted to play poker I'd use a Virtualbox. If you were to get your hands on a really advanced AI I don't think it'd be that difficult to have your primary computer read your virtual machine's screen, calculate out what you should do, and then overlay advice or even an indicator over the buttons you should press. You could even have little text notes come up with numbers and reasons why. It would teach you poker and you wouldn't make "mistakes". It would be against a site's TOS to use helpful software that gives advice but there's no way anyone could ever detect you since the software is running is externally. The only true test would be to see if you're capable of playing the same way when under observation.

Could some admin please contact me by PM and drop me OPs IP-addresses?

I am an admin at maxinmontreal.com/forums
and banned a user some hours ago for a scam-attempt.
The user noted the sales on ebay, but caught my attention for
* being from Virginia like the seller of the ebay-bot.
* kidding about "selling my bot-setup for 15k" 4 days ago.
This looked like an obvious attempt to advertise that scam.

But now the user in question claims to be innocent
and states, that he got the ebay-link from here.

I would like to compare the IP-address(es) to know,
if OP and our user are different.

Thank you very much for your help.

THF

On May 13 2010 16:47 ShLiM wrote: BTW i want a bot too, but im too dump to write my own.

...must resist...fight...urge...

16 dollah/owah? das lotta cheezeburgah

if some of you are interested in botting, do it the right way!

http://pokerai.org/
http://pokerai.org/openholdem.html

being a botter is kinda like being a black jack card counter in vegas... dont get caught and you'll do fine.

but one thing i like about botting is the challenge of writing good code to make your bot perform well. it's not really about the money... tho some money would be nice.
ok... a lot would be nice, yeah. but it isn't just about that. it's more like it's fun seeing an A.I. mind fuck every person who
is trying really hard at winning the pokerz on the internetz.

there are more bots out there than you think... it is either you're in or you're out.

oh.. just to inform you. i have never used any botting software, nor do i have plans in using it. what is written above is based on a person i know who is an avid botter.

I've played a decent hsare of sngs and icm is very important. You can buy a copy of sngwizard for $99 which lets you go through your old hand histories and review them by looking at the icm values of every hand tweaking the ranges to the players when you need to. Being able to get advice from sngwizard in real time in real time would be pretty powerful, but having it just outright play for you is a pretty scary idea.
I wonder how much sngwizard would cost for their actual code though without the interface. All the math is known, probably could pay some Indian guy to do it for a few thousand like byrnesam says.

tried understanding openholdem, very steep learning curve, but if u have programming background i think one can be up an running in about 4 months time with some decent ai bot

On May 13 2010 23:16 TheHighFish wrote: Could some admin please contact me by PM and drop me OPs IP-addresses? I am an admin at maxinmontreal.com/forums and banned a user some hours ago for a scam-attempt. The user noted the sales on ebay, but caught my attention for * being from Virginia like the seller of the ebay-bot. * kidding about "selling my bot-setup for 15k" 4 days ago. This looked like an obvious attempt to advertise that scam. But now the user in question claims to be innocent and states, that he got the ebay-link from here. I would like to compare the IP-address(es) to know, if OP and our user are different. Thank you very much for your help. THF

I dont think the OP is trying to scam

I dont think the OP is trying to scam

I hope not.
But the suspect user in our forum did hide his advertisement
in a harmless-looking informative post also.

And now he claims, he got his info from here.
That's why I would like to know, if your OP is a different person or our user.

Anyone falling for that 25K bot deserves it imo

meh, i could see a market for this thing and if it does what it says it does + includes code, bids could prob jump upwards of 50-75k imo. Just not a lot of people who have that kind of money to spare, maybe someone into poker and into a.i. research or something. Or just someone who has the ability to set up a million computers and make his money back quickly on it. Doesn't look like a scam to me.

someone said it earlier, but i'll mention it again. who the fuck would sell a real working money-making machine?

in this situation i'd say scammer knows he's not gonna get the full 25k or whatever, but is aiming to get the 5% "non-refundable" - it's still a pretty good score for a scammer

so ya, to be honest. in this certain case, i hope the scammer scams the shit out of someone. it would be lolable

On May 16 2010 15:04 thewh00sel wrote: meh, i could see a market for this thing and if it does what it says it does + includes code, bids could prob jump upwards of 50-75k imo. Just not a lot of people who have that kind of money to spare, maybe someone into poker and into a.i. research or something. Or just someone who has the ability to set up a million computers and make his money back quickly on it. Doesn't look like a scam to me.

up a million computers

Great idea, bots will be playing with each other lol, -EV.

On May 16 2010 17:54 Grindasaurus wrote: someone said it earlier, but i'll mention it again. who the fuck would sell a real working money-making machine? in this situation i'd say scammer knows he's not gonna get the full 25k or whatever, but is aiming to get the 5% "non-refundable" - it's still a pretty good score for a scammer so ya, to be honest. in this certain case, i hope the scammer scams the shit out of someone. it would be lolable

Someone asked about that at the bottom. Response was if buyer pays escrow fees no 5% necessary.
I wouldn't pay through a poker room, but the last time I sold something on ebay I wasn't able to touch the money in my paypal account until I guess the buyer had received their item. Or maybe some set time frame. So using paypal or the escrow service would make it difficult to get scammed. If someone buys it we might find out the finer details.

winning bots are usually expensive, and there are ones out there believe me. pokerstars is every botters favorite site coz of the sheer volume of players and diversity of games. break-even bots used as fpp pros cost as much as 15k last i read. 25k is cheap if it does 3/4 of what it says

On May 16 2010 18:05 Try2BePerfect wrote: Show nested quote + On May 16 2010 15:04 thewh00sel wrote: meh, i could see a market for this thing and if it does what it says it does + includes code, bids could prob jump upwards of 50-75k imo. Just not a lot of people who have that kind of money to spare, maybe someone into poker and into a.i. research or something. Or just someone who has the ability to set up a million computers and make his money back quickly on it. Doesn't look like a scam to me. up a million computers Great idea, bots will be playing with each other lol, -EV.

botters are actually open to the idea of having a exclusive bot only site. you gotta understand the serious botter... it is about the "challenge".

On May 16 2010 17:54 Grindasaurus wrote: someone said it earlier, but i'll mention it again. who the fuck would sell a real working money-making machine? in this situation i'd say scammer knows he's not gonna get the full 25k or whatever, but is aiming to get the 5% "non-refundable" - it's still a pretty good score for a scammer so ya, to be honest. in this certain case, i hope the scammer scams the shit out of someone. it would be lolable

there could be a few reasons

#1 selling the bot does not prevent him from using it himself? i mean he still has his code? or he could just make a new one?
#2 He might not have the bankroll to play safely, or is scared to get banned. He simply prefers a safe 25K instead of risk

There was a guy who made a hu sng bot and get caught (obv bot was winning). He next posted a lot of info on his blog and how he suspected pokerstars was looking for bot (checking volume, hours you play, if your mouse click every time on the same part of a button...). He shared all his info with stars and asked them to hire him in the anti-bot quest.
Was quite interesting.