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SC2 + D3 = The end of liquidpoker.net imo

SC2 + D3 = End of the world

sigh i cannot win a game today

On March 09 2010 10:01 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On March 08 2010 23:13 RaiNKhAN wrote: loco, what do you like to do to counter baneling /ling rush if you scout it? also if you wouldnt mind pm'ing me your HARD COUNTER to warp gate rush, then ill gladly email you some aces as a sign of gratitude few zealots, sentry + stalkers/cannons to hold my ramp until i get colossus /w range the ideal thing is if a map permits it to build your two gates in a way that enables only 1 zealot to block the entrance to your base, this way it makes it much harder for them to kill shit and get in. just put a stalker to block that spot since they are less vulnerable to baneling. you can use your sentry to enable only a few to get up and be stuck there inbetween while your range units/cannons kills it all. the build that counters the fast 3 zealot warp is a fast 2gate rush with chrono booster. you basically just make your pylon at 10 and your two gates at 10 as well, you will have two zealots coming out really soon and you can target the pylon of the gates. if he scouts your build he will be forced to make zealots but you will have a lot more and faster than his... its a pretty tough build to counter in itself

if he notices cant he not make the pylons in your base, make them in his own, mass up and start up probe production again and then he has a tech advantage and can hold off the rushes you make with his reinforcements?

yay I learned how to counter colossus as Z

On March 09 2010 14:54 fira wrote: yay I learned how to counter colossus as Z

by sending all of your lings at 1 immortal and failing to kill it???

osnaop

On March 09 2010 11:52 fira wrote: SC2 + D3 = End of the world

Both will be released in 2012

On March 09 2010 10:01 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On March 08 2010 23:13 RaiNKhAN wrote: loco, what do you like to do to counter baneling /ling rush if you scout it? also if you wouldnt mind pm'ing me your HARD COUNTER to warp gate rush, then ill gladly email you some aces as a sign of gratitude few zealots, sentry + stalkers/cannons to hold my ramp until i get colossus /w range the ideal thing is if a map permits it to build your two gates in a way that enables only 1 zealot to block the entrance to your base, this way it makes it much harder for them to kill shit and get in. just put a stalker to block that spot since they are less vulnerable to baneling. you can use your sentry to enable only a few to get up and be stuck there inbetween while your range units/cannons kills it all. the build that counters the fast 3 zealot warp is a fast 2gate rush with chrono booster. you basically just make your pylon at 10 and your two gates at 10 as well, you will have two zealots coming out really soon and you can target the pylon of the gates. if he scouts your build he will be forced to make zealots but you will have a lot more and faster than his... its a pretty tough build to counter in itself

yeah and if you do this then they do 3gate zeal/sentry warpgate

wat

proxy gate beats it i think
but proxy gate loses to locos build ROFL

a>>>>b>>>>c>>>>a FUCK

On March 09 2010 15:00 CrownRoyal wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2010 14:54 fira wrote: yay I learned how to counter colossus as Z by sending all of your lings at 1 immortal and failing to kill it??? osnaop

fuck

you




son

9-3 in sc2beta so far using zerg, though thats only 5 prac matches and 7 placing. fun

On March 09 2010 13:02 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2010 10:01 Loco wrote:   On March 08 2010 23:13 RaiNKhAN wrote: loco, what do you like to do to counter baneling /ling rush if you scout it? also if you wouldnt mind pm'ing me your HARD COUNTER to warp gate rush, then ill gladly email you some aces as a sign of gratitude few zealots, sentry + stalkers/cannons to hold my ramp until i get colossus /w range the ideal thing is if a map permits it to build your two gates in a way that enables only 1 zealot to block the entrance to your base, this way it makes it much harder for them to kill shit and get in. just put a stalker to block that spot since they are less vulnerable to baneling. you can use your sentry to enable only a few to get up and be stuck there inbetween while your range units/cannons kills it all. the build that counters the fast 3 zealot warp is a fast 2gate rush with chrono booster. you basically just make your pylon at 10 and your two gates at 10 as well, you will have two zealots coming out really soon and you can target the pylon of the gates. if he scouts your build he will be forced to make zealots but you will have a lot more and faster than his... its a pretty tough build to counter in itself if he notices cant he not make the pylons in your base, make them in his own, mass up and start up probe production again and then he has a tech advantage and can hold off the rushes you make with his reinforcements?

of course.. if he notices he has no choice but to make zealots initially (whereas the fast 3 warpgate build is 0 units until the 3 gates are warped in) so you are forcing him to change his tactic.

anyway, this is all old news already though as the metagame in pvp has changed and everybody seems to be opening two gates now. but if somehow you know that the guy is going for the 3 warpgate build, the 10/10/10 build will own it. it works best in 2nd or third game vs the same person. because in the first game you get to see how he opens and if he scouts late or not. but really the metagame changed a lot, people went from going fast tech + scouting after gate or gas to double gating and scouting.

On March 09 2010 16:31 Daut wrote: proxy gate beats it i think but proxy gate loses to locos build ROFL a>>>>b>>>>c>>>>a FUCK

this is what i've already deduced.

still trying to find a solid way to deal with everything

On March 09 2010 17:52 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2010 13:02 Daut wrote:   On March 09 2010 10:01 Loco wrote:   On March 08 2010 23:13 RaiNKhAN wrote: loco, what do you like to do to counter baneling /ling rush if you scout it? also if you wouldnt mind pm'ing me your HARD COUNTER to warp gate rush, then ill gladly email you some aces as a sign of gratitude few zealots, sentry + stalkers/cannons to hold my ramp until i get colossus /w range the ideal thing is if a map permits it to build your two gates in a way that enables only 1 zealot to block the entrance to your base, this way it makes it much harder for them to kill shit and get in. just put a stalker to block that spot since they are less vulnerable to baneling. you can use your sentry to enable only a few to get up and be stuck there inbetween while your range units/cannons kills it all. the build that counters the fast 3 zealot warp is a fast 2gate rush with chrono booster. you basically just make your pylon at 10 and your two gates at 10 as well, you will have two zealots coming out really soon and you can target the pylon of the gates. if he scouts your build he will be forced to make zealots but you will have a lot more and faster than his... its a pretty tough build to counter in itself if he notices cant he not make the pylons in your base, make them in his own, mass up and start up probe production again and then he has a tech advantage and can hold off the rushes you make with his reinforcements? of course.. if he notices he has no choice but to make zealots initially (whereas the fast 3 warpgate build is 0 units until the 3 gates are warped in) so you are forcing him to change his tactic. anyway, this is all old news already though as the metagame in pvp has changed and everybody seems to be opening two gates now. but if somehow you know that the guy is going for the 3 warpgate build, the 10/10/10 build will own it

yeah but the 3warpgate sentry/zeal push thing that was popular 2 weeks ago beats 2gate ezpz

what are you talking about crown? that is exactly what is the best counter to it. the 3 warpgate build is gate 12 gas 14/15 then cyber and no second pylon before putting down two more gates and upgrading warp gates. this means you don't even have the psi to make a zealot since you are 17/18 at that point. the zealots arrive in your base before you have warpgates/any units yet

oh btw Tyler is a gigantic dickhead... i get a game vs him earlier and he leaves after like 2-3 seconds (my guess was that he was alt tabbed or afk and he decided to leave) so anyway i msg'd him to ask him what happened and he replies something like "i have no idea what you're talking about, don't talk to me" lolwat. i asked him what his problem was and he tells me "my problem is that there is no ignore function on bnet 2.0"


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On March 09 2010 17:57 Loco wrote: what are you talking about crown? that is exactly what is the best counter to it. the 3 warpgate build is gate 12 gas 14/15 then cyber and no second pylon before putting down two more gates and upgrading warp gates. this means you don't even have the psi to make a zealot since you are 17/18 at that point. the zealots arrive in your base before you have warpgates/any units yet

no the one where you get zeals/sentry and attack their choke.

like you get the 3 warpgates and zeals/sentry and make the pylon outside their base with your push

is there any way to open in zvz other than ling roaches? doesnt look like i can hold off roach attack with 2 sunks queen and a few lings while teching to muta

you mean the one where you get 3 gates fast with zealots only then warp in 3 sentries and attack? that'll do well ya

oh btw i just got owned real hard by GlaDe. he did a fast expo with ling speed then switched to mutas and corruptors only. he proceeded to take the whole map with overlords shitting creep all over the map. i understand why fira was talking about opening dual stargate now. i rematched him and owned the crap out of him with dual stargates/hidden expos on islands

On March 09 2010 18:02 Loco wrote: oh btw Tyler is a gigantic dickhead... i get a game vs him earlier and he leaves after like 2-3 seconds (my guess was that he was alt tabbed or afk and he decided to leave) so anyway i msg'd him to ask him what happened and he replies something like "i have no idea what you're talking about, don't talk to me" lolwat. i asked him what his problem was and he tells me "my problem is that there is no ignore function on bnet 2.0" ....

lol thats weird seems very un nonylike.