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edzwoo   United States. Oct 26 2009 14:06. Posts 5911 | | |



Small stakes heads up has to be the easiest game in the world. One thing I noticed is that although a 5k sample size means absolutely nothing in FR where you play 1 or 2 hands every orbit, you play about every other hand in HU, so my assumption is you don't need as big of a sample size to show if you have an edge.
Granted I'm not saying I have a 30ptbb edge because that's probably absolutely ridiculous, I noticed the NL50 HU "regulars" are BAD and they have 5-10ptbb edges... soooo that's saying something.
This is like free money.
PS: Waiting for doomswitch.
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fuck u ppl winning at HU lol
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Oct 26 2009 14:11. Posts 6374 | | |
nice ev lucksack!
( i m just depressed, gl) |
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edzwoo   United States. Oct 26 2009 14:18. Posts 5911 | | |
I think the reason why it's so easy is because unlike other games, there are as many fish as there are regs. In NL100 FR it's like a 4-to-1 nit to fish ratio, but here it's like 1-to-1 or something.
I don't there is anything to be said about me being a good HU player at all because I don't think I am. There's just so many bad people. |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Oct 26 2009 14:20. Posts 8947 | | |
thats a very solid upswing at lowstakes HU. Although, not close to maintainable itlr, 5-10 is very solid and whats expected from most without significant leaks.
lol a nl2 army, so sick, get a logo like "edzwoo intellidonks" "+EV YO"
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Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ | |
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LikeASet   United States. Oct 26 2009 14:44. Posts 2113 | | |
People are really that bad at micro/low HU? Seems too good to be true. I don't have any HU experience but I can't imagine why a person who doesn't really know the game would want to go heads up? If you guys really think it's just as easy if not easier than micro/low 6 max then maybe I should take on learning HU. |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Oct 26 2009 14:49. Posts 8947 | | |
HU is very high variance and takes a large roll, great tilt control and a solid understanding of flop play to win itlr, although at lower limits ppl are so passive and ez to run over it can be fun |
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the red line should not be so low
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patmcgroin   Afghanistan. Oct 26 2009 14:58. Posts 830 | | |
| On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
the red line should not be so low
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this comment shows why you dont win at HU imo |
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patmcgroin   Afghanistan. Oct 26 2009 14:58. Posts 830 | | |
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edzwoo   United States. Oct 26 2009 15:06. Posts 5911 | | |
| On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
the red line should not be so low
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Most of the people at small stakes are terrible and can't fold A high or any pair on any street, so I have to keep giving up unless I have a ton of equity. |
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Oct 26 2009 15:20. Posts 5126 | | |
| On October 26 2009 13:58 patmcgroin wrote:
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On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
the red line should not be so low
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Uh, i thought Heroes)engage was a solid HU player... |
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HU takes a lot of concentration and you can't play multiple tables like you can with full ring or 6 max, the swings are also much larger. It can seem easy until you hit a massive downswing and none of your plays work then add in the fact that people like to hit and run and you have a sick game of a variance.
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Oct 26 2009 15:46. Posts 9687 | | |
You still need a very big sample to determine HU edge. One of the reasons being that momentum and game flow plays such a huge roll in determining how a match ends up going, especially at lower stakes. |
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what wackass site is this nigga? | |
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PplusAD   Germany. Oct 26 2009 15:57. Posts 7182 | | |
Well HU is easier than 6max or FR
But the big problem with HU is that Varince is sooo Hughe ....
Atm u have a solid upswing ( And trust me , i have been there myself i played NL 100 on stars quite abit as a HU reg)
But things look totally different when u get a doomswitch and lose 12BI in 300 hands solely to setups where u cant fold + suckouts
there are just sooo many situations in HU where u simply cant fold. |
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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) | |
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That's my hu Graph and I wouldn't recommend playing it unless you have a 30k bankroll. I lost 10 buyins to the biggest drooler ever and had several -400$ days, needless to say it wasn't very fun. I think you've been running very good so far and so have I in this graph.
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| On October 26 2009 13:58 patmcgroin wrote:
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On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
the red line should not be so low
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this comment shows why you dont win at HU imo
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lolol
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| On October 26 2009 14:20 VanDerMeyde wrote:
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| On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
the red line should not be so low
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Uh, i thought Heroes)engage was a solid HU player... |
i am
my hu game is better than my 6 max game
hes jsut a fish and he doenst know what hes talking about
xD
at HU the red line should not be breaking even
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| On October 26 2009 15:07 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
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On October 26 2009 14:20 VanDerMeyde wrote:
| On October 26 2009 13:58 patmcgroin wrote:
| On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
the red line should not be so low
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this comment shows why you dont win at HU imo
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Uh, i thought Heroes)engage was a solid HU player... |
i am
my hu game is better than my 6 max game
hes jsut a fish and he doenst know what hes talking about
xD
at HU the red line should not be breaking even
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Doesn't that depend on the stakes though? The rake on nl100 is super high and it takes away from non sd winnings IMO
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| On October 26 2009 13:58 patmcgroin wrote:
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On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
the red line should not be so low
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this comment shows why you dont win at HU imo
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im still loling thank for making my day |
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| On October 26 2009 15:11 street_hooker wrote:
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On October 26 2009 15:07 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
| On October 26 2009 14:20 VanDerMeyde wrote:
| On October 26 2009 13:58 patmcgroin wrote:
| On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
the red line should not be so low
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this comment shows why you dont win at HU imo
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Uh, i thought Heroes)engage was a solid HU player... |
i am
my hu game is better than my 6 max game
hes jsut a fish and he doenst know what hes talking about
xD
at HU the red line should not be breaking even
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Doesn't that depend on the stakes though? The rake on nl100 is super high and it takes away from non sd winnings IMO
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it means he doenst play agressiv enought
if u dont have the balls to 3 barrel bluff u should not be playing hu |
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NighTLesS15   United States. Oct 26 2009 16:31. Posts 241 | | |

i'm hoping a good redline is something like this :D?
Edit: i believe first 5-6k hands or so was pre-hu, after is 100% hu hands only
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hoylemj   United States. Oct 26 2009 16:42. Posts 840 | | |
hook us up with an article |
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edzwoo   United States. Oct 26 2009 16:48. Posts 5911 | | |
Engage, I can show you my NL100 FR graph, it's 50/50 redline blueline 
But yeah I definitely am nitting it up and bluffing almost 0% of the time. |
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patmcgroin   Afghanistan. Oct 27 2009 01:48. Posts 830 | | |
| On October 26 2009 15:12 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
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On October 26 2009 13:58 patmcgroin wrote:
| On October 26 2009 13:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
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this comment shows why you dont win at HU imo
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im still loling thank for making my day |
no worries =) you should have enough self confidence in your game to not feel the need to type OMG LOL imo
again imo |
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patmcgroin   Afghanistan. Oct 27 2009 01:49. Posts 830 | | |
this is after i read your recent blog post as well so yeh... |
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my recent blog post has nothing to do with my skill its all about BR management
Would you tell f4zi he sux? |
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I don't want to disagree with Heros, but at the same time I think 5k hands or w/e is really a big enough sample size at 50nl to actually determine that the red line should be higher. I admittedly suck but from what I've gathered there's just so many call station fish at 50nl which makes it less optimal to constantly run 3 barrel bluffs on them |
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