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TalentedTom    Canada. Jun 28 2009 19:47. Posts 20070


  On June 28 2009 12:38 Maynard! wrote:
Its an absolute silly situation to put yourself in. By rule you should never fold / not push here. Given that, you're beating absolutely nothing here. I bet if you poker stove realistic ranges you're still not getting 6:1. Your only hope is that the guy got some massive suckouts on other tables and is tilting.

Also, every single pair would push the remaining 100 left in on the turn. Even if not you're only beating 7X. The only hand I could see calling a turn is AXhh, float turned into draw.

I'm betting that guy has KK/AA/88/77 or 44. Most likely AA or KK.

There are three very distinct, prominent errors in this hand. Its hard to analyze something that has become so fubared. If I had to analogize I would say its similar to a guy asking "hey I just stabbed myself in the heart. What do I do now?" I don't know dude. Don't stab yourself in the heart in the first place:D



this statement is false, any villian that calls 75% of their stack before the river is preety retarded / horrible, and will show up with the most bizzaire ranges. Any player who isn't completley retarded would fold/shove their entire range on the turn. Therefore it's correct to assume villian is a retard and shoving is the upmost correct play by a crystal mile.

Also important to note villian will be getting 7:1 on the river, so he will call with 100% of his range, including all high card (possibly even low) hands

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Twisted    Netherlands. Jun 28 2009 20:38. Posts 10422

Your line kinda blows when you leave 100$ on the river.


YoMeR   United States. Jun 28 2009 21:15. Posts 12438

"TheB1g0ne is a - bad - regular, not very happy folding"


why not just jam turn? seems like a player like this would have trouble folding any sorta pair in this spot so might as well try and rep a bluff too.

eZ Life. 

Patrocle   France. Jun 28 2009 23:48. Posts 623


  On June 28 2009 19:38 Twisted wrote:
Your line kinda blows when you leave 100$ on the river.



ok so shove turn ? bet stronger on flop ? re-gay bet the turn ?
What's the best line vs a sticky-tag ?

An apple a day keeps the doctor away 

Patrocle   France. Jun 29 2009 00:35. Posts 623


  On June 28 2009 18:47 TalentedTom wrote:
Show nested quote +



this statement is false, any villian that calls 75% of their stack before the river is preety retarded / horrible, and will show up with the most bizzaire ranges. Any player who isn't completley retarded would fold/shove their entire range on the turn. Therefore it's correct to assume villian is a retard and shoving is the upmost correct play by a crystal mile.

Also important to note villian will be getting 7:1 on the river, so he will call with 100% of his range, including all high card (possibly even low) hands


Ok, so we lose a lot of value by C/C instead of Shoving.
Now I got an answer

An apple a day keeps the doctor away 

Patrocle   France. Jul 17 2009 07:50. Posts 623

Here is the result of this one -forgot-

Submitted by : Patrocle

***** Hand History for Game 4774290826 ***** Everest
$400.00 USD NL Texas Holdem - Saturday, June 27, 04:10:02 ET 2009
Table Bamako5 Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero $478.40 USD
Seat 2: tyesbeau $358.00 USD
Seat 3: TheB1g0ne $400.00 USD
Seat 4: dreamer_ $86.00 USD
Seat 5: BigDaddyCash $578.60 USD
Seat 6: dachfed $726.99 USD
Hero posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
tyesbeau posts big blind [$4.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [ TsTc ]
** Dealing down cards **
TheB1g0ne raises [$14.00 USD]
dreamer_ folds
BigDaddyCash calls [$14.00 USD]
dachfed folds
Hero raises [$58.00 USD]
tyesbeau folds
TheB1g0ne calls [$46.00 USD]
BigDaddyCash folds

Flop (Pot : $136.00)

   8h8c7c
Hero bets [$65.00 USD]
TheB1g0ne calls [$65.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $266.00)

   8h8c7c4h
Hero bets [$175.00 USD]
TheB1g0ne calls [$175.00 USD]

River (Pot : $616.00)

   8h8c7c4h6h
Hero checks
TheB1g0ne checks
Hero shows Ts,Tc ]
TheB1g0ne shows 9d,9s ]
Hero wins $615.00 USD from main pot

An apple a day keeps the doctor away 

 
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