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lebowski   Greece. Nov 16 2008 22:03. Posts 9205


  On November 16 2008 20:35 Baal wrote:
also taking in mind that even if u get it in a slightly EV- spot, the fact that if you loose he will leave and open a spot for a full stacker negates the slight loss.


the serious beat is when the shortstacker who just doubled up leaves and another one sits at his seat T_T

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 16/11/2008 22:10

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 16 2008 22:12. Posts 5126

vs tight shortstacker = give respect and let go KQo / AJo vs early position raise
- Min raise their big blind every time when folded to, to small blind.

Vs good shortstack = show them one crazy reraise with 27o / T3 then tighten up next 100.000 hands, then do same over again.

:DLast edit: 16/11/2008 22:13

cariadon   Estonia. Nov 16 2008 23:57. Posts 4019

LOLOL 100 000 hands hahaha
degen gambling is how to defeat shortstacks. it must suck for them having to sit out while you are spewing chips with 27o just to follow their SUPER SYSTEM 3


cariadon   Estonia. Nov 16 2008 23:59. Posts 4019

one degen gambling shot for 50bb-s equals roughly 2 months time of playing your A+ game vs shortstackers
proceed at your own risk ! gl


ikc5   United States. Nov 17 2008 00:01. Posts 406

Because they're bad at postflop play and they know you'll just give them a huge preflop edge by playing too loose against them.

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DarkFury   Bulgaria. Nov 17 2008 00:37. Posts 56

Waht do you think ? Is it possible to shortstack 6max for good amount of bb/100 ?!


DooMeR   United States. Nov 17 2008 01:25. Posts 8562

meh most shorties barely pull 1ptbb however, the real good ones 24 table or more, so they actually have pretty damn good hourly s all things considered

let me add on that, they usually play like 25/50 down to like 2/4 since it jsut doesn't run enough and once they double up they can't play the same table for another 30 mins atleast

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident.Last edit: 17/11/2008 01:27

vlseph   United States. Nov 17 2008 01:44. Posts 3026

Why is shortstacking better to clear bonuses?

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

terrybunny19240   United States. Nov 17 2008 01:47. Posts 13829

I think because your bonus is based on the MGR of the table, you don't actually have to be involved in hands. So he can have like 24tables of MGR coming in and breaking even while shortstacking instead of having to play 4x as long 6tabling fullstack


Baalim   Mexico. Nov 17 2008 02:09. Posts 34304


  On November 16 2008 23:37 DarkFury wrote:
Waht do you think ? Is it possible to shortstack 6max for good amount of bb/100 ?!



fuck you no.

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 17 2008 06:45. Posts 5126

lol cariadon =)

:D 

Joe   Czech Republic. Nov 17 2008 07:45. Posts 5987


  On November 16 2008 23:37 DarkFury wrote:
Waht do you think ? Is it possible to shortstack 6max for good amount of bb/100 ?!



Search 2+2 for Imsakid's graph.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

P1mpdaddy   Austria. Nov 17 2008 12:26. Posts 1370


  On November 17 2008 06:45 Joe wrote:
Show nested quote +



Search 2+2 for Imsakid's graph.


can u remember the title of the thread?

r0cking your s0xLast edit: 17/11/2008 12:28

RaiZ   France. Nov 17 2008 16:56. Posts 1503

Because they don't have enough money to play 10 tables 100bb ? (true story... :[)

Shin-il : Yeah it was very very very good for me too. Rekrul : YOU MOTHER FUCKING FUCKING SON OF A BITCH 

Sheitan   Canada. Nov 17 2008 17:00. Posts 4217

Heres an excellent article on how to beat good shortstackers:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Number=12157664

Gives a lot of insight if you have problems with these faggots.

Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt  

casinocasino   Canada. Nov 17 2008 17:16. Posts 3347

Shortstacking is profitable for the same reason squeezing is profitable.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Nov 17 2008 17:47. Posts 8918

Because its easy and pretty low variance, you dont need hand reading or postflop skills, just basic preflop stuff.
Shorstackers dont give me as much trouble as before now, I toned down my calling range vs their shoves and started reshoving on them with a good frequency with Axs and stuff like that and they actually fold quite a bit.


Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Nov 17 2008 17:59. Posts 3943

Because they don't have the brains nor the balls to play fullstacked.

Metagame Purposes. 

Sloverville   United States. Nov 17 2008 22:49. Posts 232

Who do you push off a cliff first?

A. Blazingsmile
B. Nattylocks


vlseph   United States. Nov 18 2008 00:15. Posts 3026


  On November 17 2008 00:47 Night2o1 wrote:
I think because your bonus is based on the MGR of the table, you don't actually have to be involved in hands. So he can have like 24tables of MGR coming in and breaking even while shortstacking instead of having to play 4x as long 6tabling fullstack



Does this include stuff like FPP?
So if I really wanted like supernova super fast on a smaller bankroll I could 24 table short stack NL100 and be one of those annoying guys too?

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

 
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