NL200 How to play against massive fish?

Villain is an incredible fish.
His stats are 78.2/37.4/0.73
He overbets a lot and calls overbets with junk.
Never folds pair.
The problem is I lost 4 stacks against him.
I put a lot of money in whenever I had something but he always calls and somehow wins. Did I play too loose/aggro?
Here are some hands from that session in order of which they happened:

HAND 1
Submitted by : Cortex408

***** Hand History for Game 7446341831 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 11, 01:17:48 ET 2008
Table Table 127323 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: grrrrrrstop ( $200 USD )
Seat 3: ericto ( $562.22 USD )
Seat 5: gogeterdone ( $129.33 USD )
Seat 4: Cortex408 ( $334.42 USD )
Seat 1: the_thorpedo ( $205 USD )
Seat 6: naureenislam ( $70.65 USD )
ericto posts small blind [$1 USD].
Cortex408 posts big blind [$2 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Cortex408
gogeterdone raises [$4 USD]
naureenislam raises [$10 USD]
the_thorpedo calls [$10 USD]
grrrrrrstop folds
ericto calls [$9 USD]
Cortex408 raises [$48 USD]
gogeterdone folds
naureenislam folds
the_thorpedo folds
ericto calls [$40 USD]

Flop (Pot : $124.00)

   
ericto checks
Cortex408 bets [$90.75 USD]
ericto calls [$90.75 USD]

Turn (Pot : $305.50)

   
ericto bets [$36 USD]
Cortex408 calls [$36 USD]

River (Pot : $377.50)

   
ericto bets [$110 USD]
Cortex408 folds
ericto does not show cards .
ericto wins $484.50 USD

***** Hand History for Game 7446345156 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 11, 01:22:20 ET 2008
Table Table 127323 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: grrrrrrstop ( $200 USD )
Seat 3: ericto ( $737.67 USD )
Seat 5: gogeterdone ( $172.33 USD )
Seat 4: Cortex408 ( $200 USD )
Seat 1: the_thorpedo ( $200 USD )
Seat 6: naureenislam ( $35.65 USD )
the_thorpedo posts small blind [$1 USD].
grrrrrrstop posts big blind [$2 USD].

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Cortex408
ericto raises [$14 USD]
Cortex408 calls [$14 USD]
gogeterdone folds
naureenislam folds
the_thorpedo folds
grrrrrrstop folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $31.00)

   
ericto checks
Cortex408 bets [$14.72 USD]
every hand just wait
ericto calls [$14.72 USD]

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $60.44)

   
ericto bets [$54 USD]
Cortex408 calls [$54 USD]

River (Pot : $168.44)

   
ericto bets [$120 USD]
Cortex408 is all-In [$117.28 USD]
ericto shows a flush, Ace high .
Cortex408 doesn't show two pairs, Queens and Nines .
ericto wins $2.72 USD from the side pot 1 with a flush, Ace high .
ericto wins $400 USD from the main pot with a flush, Ace high .

***** Hand History for Game 7446365400 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 11, 01:51:01 ET 2008
Table Table 127323 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: ericto ( $1,703.52 USD )
Seat 4: Cortex408 ( $200 USD )
Seat 1: the_thorpedo ( $210.05 USD )
Seat 6: naureenislam ( $158.18 USD )
Seat 5: luckywow ( $200 USD )
Cortex408 posts small blind [$1 USD].
luckywow posts big blind [$2 USD].

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Cortex408
naureenislam folds
ericto calls [$2 USD]
Cortex408 calls [$1 USD]
luckywow checks

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $6.00)

   
cupcake4 has joined the table.
Cortex408 bets [$4.27 USD]
luckywow folds
ericto raises [$40 USD]
Cortex408 calls [$35.73 USD]

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $86.00)

   
Cortex408 checks
ericto checks

River (Pot : $86.00)

   
Cortex408 bets [$63 USD]
ericto calls [$63 USD]
Cortex408 shows a pair of Sixes .
ericto shows two pairs, Sevens and Sixes .
ericto wins $210 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Sevens and Sixes .

***** Hand History for Game 7446366962 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 11, 01:53:17 ET 2008
Table Table 127323 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: ericto ( $1,798.52 USD )
Seat 4: Cortex408 ( $249 USD )
Seat 1: the_thorpedo ( $210.05 USD )
Seat 6: naureenislam ( $160.18 USD )
Seat 5: luckywow ( $200 USD )
Seat 2: cupcake4 ( $40 USD )
ericto posts small blind [$1 USD].
Cortex408 posts big blind [$2 USD].

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Cortex408
luckywow folds
naureenislam folds
ericto raises [$9 USD]
Cortex408 raises [$70 USD]
ericto calls [$62 USD]

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $144.00)

   
ericto checks
Cortex408 bets [$71 USD]
ericto calls [$71 USD]

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $286.00)

   
ericto checks
Cortex408 is all-In [$106 USD]
ericto calls [$106 USD]

River (Pot : $498.00)

   
ericto shows a pair of Kings .
Cortex408 doesn't show a pair of Jacks .
ericto wins $496 USD from the main pot with a pair of Kings .

***** Hand History for Game 7446368858 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, October 11, 01:56:03 ET 2008
Table Table 127323 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: ericto ( $2,007.52 USD )
Seat 4: Cortex408 ( $200 USD )
Seat 1: the_thorpedo ( $205.05 USD )
Seat 6: naureenislam ( $184.53 USD )
Seat 5: luckywow ( $200 USD )
Seat 2: cupcake4 ( $97 USD )
the_thorpedo posts small blind [$1 USD].
cupcake4 posts big blind [$2 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Cortex408
ericto calls [$2 USD]
Cortex408 raises [$8 USD]
luckywow folds
naureenislam folds
the_thorpedo folds
cupcake4 folds
ericto calls [$6 USD]

Flop (Pot : $19.00)

   
ericto bets [$10 USD]
Cortex408 raises [$80 USD]
ericto folds
Cortex408 does not show cards .
Cortex408 wins $107.05 USD

I try to check hand 1 down / call small bets
I 3bet hand 2 ALL day.
I dunno about hand 2.
I like the shove with jacks.
I wouldn't go quite that overboard with the KJ hand, 80 is a bit excessive.

don't cbet trash

hit decent hands and print money


looks like this guy might also be the type to push action with draws but showdown / slowplay pairs / nuts

hand 1, check flop

hand 2, push turn. - i think he stacks off with any draw/pair and there is more value in getting it in there than call/call but your line can work too if he is the type who will just jam any river hoping for a fold.

hand 3, you can fold to his overbet on the flop

hand 4, aight

hand 5, raise a little less so if he does have a draw he can snapjam it like he loves to

ohh yea i'd 3bet hand 2 also

i like how he stacked 10 bi in about 30mins at that one table

superuser?

Hand 1 what the green star said

Hand 2 relies heavily on whether he usually opens preflop that size or if he only does it with big hands. I'd probably check behind on that flop, but as played just stick it in on turn imo.

Hand 3 is definitely a fold on flop

Hand 4, I dunno how thrilled I am about the pf sizing especially given that we're abit deeper

Hand 5, again dont go crazy

im only reading hand 1

don't play AK like that OOP vs the villain u described

lol i can already tell from 5 hands that villain is one of the best opponents to play against anywhere.

just value bet much thinner and prolly size your bets a bit bigger since your opening/raising ranges are owning his calling/opening ranges.

poker is ez vs this villain just play straight up. but make sure to keep giving him a bit of action pf and flop sometimes

Oh lol @ hand 2, I thought it was a standard 2/4 open raise ;P Didn't realize it's a 7 bb raise.

Btw, the JJ hand, if he's gonna call 70 I think we should make it 70, so I like that :O

On October 11 2008 19:28 TianYuan wrote: Oh lol @ hand 2, I thought it was a standard 2/4 open raise ;P Didn't realize it's a 7 bb raise. Btw, the JJ hand, if he's gonna call 70 I think we should make it 70, so I like that :O

Does it matter? I still 3bet the AQo hard and would play it for stacks preflop. This guy is obviously supercrazy.

u'r on tilt man,slow down don't cbet every flop and don't be so aggro vs him
try to play in position v him and valuebet big hands ,why u cbet when u know he's calling with any to and you have overs

i don't like the bluff in hand 3. i would have called it too.

i don't really like the megaraises pf because instead of making you money because he makes pf mistakes because it justifies you stacking off postflop. he called this time with K10(probably overvaluing picture cards) but he might have folded 106. and you can make a lot of money in a very low variance way when he flops a 10 TP.

what works for me is to isolate this kind of villain (but try not to inflate too hard pf because you have a HUGE edge postflop) i stop all bluffing except c-bets (not too big) and i continue bluffs with really strong semibluffs draw + over minimum. and vbet any TP pretty hard. i think he wont exploit it if you make your bets bigger, the stronger your hand is.

On October 11 2008 19:52 Twisted wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2008 19:28 TianYuan wrote: Oh lol @ hand 2, I thought it was a standard 2/4 open raise ;P Didn't realize it's a 7 bb raise. Btw, the JJ hand, if he's gonna call 70 I think we should make it 70, so I like that :O Does it matter? I still 3bet the AQo hard and would play it for stacks preflop. This guy is obviously supercrazy.

Isn't it better to play a smaller variance game vs such guys? I mean he almost has 40% with a hand like K10 calling a preflop all in and we are guarranted to make money when we hit if we bet

lebowski vs these types of players more of our range are monsters. any over pair is going in. almost every strong top pair is going to go for 3 streets of good ol pot sized value. all of our bluffing range will probably vanish and turn into semi bluffs with tons of equity like open ended straight draws/naked flush draws and bigger draws we'll happily get it in.

i mean you could list a million easy and simple adjustments to completely raping these types of fish.

Butchered hand after butchered hand after butchered hand.

On October 12 2008 09:16 lebowski wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2008 19:52 Twisted wrote:   On October 11 2008 19:28 TianYuan wrote: Oh lol @ hand 2, I thought it was a standard 2/4 open raise ;P Didn't realize it's a 7 bb raise. Btw, the JJ hand, if he's gonna call 70 I think we should make it 70, so I like that :O Does it matter? I still 3bet the AQo hard and would play it for stacks preflop. This guy is obviously supercrazy. Isn't it better to play a smaller variance game vs such guys? I mean he almost has 40% with a hand like K10 calling a preflop all in and we are guarranted to make money when we hit if we bet

Uhm no?

If we get it in as a favourite we gain?

no, dont ever play low variance, re-raise isolate and get in EVERY GOD DAMN POT with this fish, double him up take it back double him again take it back and then take it all, dont let the table bust him first.

On October 12 2008 09:16 lebowski wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2008 19:52 Twisted wrote:   On October 11 2008 19:28 TianYuan wrote: Oh lol @ hand 2, I thought it was a standard 2/4 open raise ;P Didn't realize it's a 7 bb raise. Btw, the JJ hand, if he's gonna call 70 I think we should make it 70, so I like that :O Does it matter? I still 3bet the AQo hard and would play it for stacks preflop. This guy is obviously supercrazy. Isn't it better to play a smaller variance game vs such guys? I mean he almost has 40% with a hand like K10 calling a preflop all in and we are guarranted to make money when we hit if we bet

this type is thinking is much better suited in massive tourneys with plenty of fish where you can pass up on small edges cuz you're gonna get action when you're like a 4:1 favorite anyway.

On October 13 2008 11:19 Maynard! wrote: Butchered hand after butchered hand after butchered hand.

On October 14 2008 01:52 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On October 13 2008 11:19 Maynard! wrote: Butchered hand after butchered hand after butchered hand.

x1000

On October 11 2008 17:51 asdf2000 wrote: im only reading hand 1 don't play AK like that OOP vs the villain u described

he isn't OOP in hand 1

yeah erictoooo

seriously, who is the fish, ericto or Cortex408??

Really hard to tell.