My poker story/I hate life

I can help you out, I'll msn you when I have some avaliable time

=( saki saki <3

get your shit together and come back even stronger, everyone has to go through this eventually if they havent already.

talentedtom can probably help you with some positive thinking stuff, i think he's into that. there are a bunch of books out there that can help your discipline. try to use that time to read a bit even if you don't like it, there's a lot of life changing stuff in books.

by the way, i'm sorry for what you're going through I thought you were doing good at poker overall...thats pretty shocking. you're one of my inspirations when I play poker because of the way you have fearlessly moved up stakes, I could never do that but for the first time in my life I moved up stakes fast and it's in good part because of you and some other people from LP as well.

I hope during your time off you focus your energy on improving yourself instead of wasting energy on being depressed and come back a better person and poker player, gl

gl man add idoubleteam@hotmail.com on msn if u want for friendly advice etc

u'll be back eventually

i remember the good old days when you and me were playing together at nl25 @ party.... you were always a bit better than me though midian used to play there too, heh good times

anyway, you'll get through it

GL

I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time - you're one of the posters I enjoy reading the most on LP. Good luck.

On September 09 2007 17:48 rgfdxm wrote: I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time - you're one of the posters I enjoy reading the most on LP. Good luck.

Dude, you made 90k off poker, so obviously you're good at it. Maybe you should take a break and come back renewed.

:-)

in poker, patience and discipline are nearly the same thing

best advice i can offer:

i don't know if this applies to you, but it has helped me a lot. try not to view each hand as a win/lose situation. poker is not like chess, where our ONLY goal is to win the game. the same goes for checkers, basketball, tennis, etc...the ONLY goal in all of the common games that we know is to just win. poker is different because we are aiming to maximize

Pr (we win) * $won

try to think more about the second variable and less about the first one. i find that this reduces tilt a lot...for me, focusing on "winning this pot" has been really self-destructive in the past. but once i start realizing that losing the pot really isn't that bad when i don't lose a fuckton..........then it becomes a lot easier to deal with losing the pot. kna mean?

<3! no problem, you'll be alright with a little more optimism. bring candy with you to the poker table, in a sense...candy will just sugar coat the background and allow the results to impact you a bit less.

On September 09 2007 18:02 nutshot wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2007 17:48 rgfdxm wrote: I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time - you're one of the posters I enjoy reading the most on LP. Good luck.

take some time off and come back

On September 09 2007 18:41 [vital]Myth wrote: best advice i can offer: i don't know if this applies to you, but it has helped me a lot. try not to view each hand as a win/lose situation. poker is not like chess, where our ONLY goal is to win the game. the same goes for checkers, basketball, tennis, etc...the ONLY goal in all of the common games that we know is to just win. poker is different because we are aiming to maximize Pr (we win) * $won try to think more about the second variable and less about the first one. i find that this reduces tilt a lot...for me, focusing on "winning this pot" has been really self-destructive in the past. but once i start realizing that losing the pot really isn't that bad when i don't lose a fuckton..........then it becomes a lot easier to deal with losing the pot. kna mean? <3! no problem, you'll be alright with a little more optimism. bring candy with you to the poker table, in a sense...candy will just sugar coat the background and allow the results to impact you a bit less.

<3

this post made me feel all warm inside

sick life~ hope u come back stronger.
my msn is timthetoolman17@hotmail.com, dont know what it will do but i've been through some tough times too and can tell u what i do about my tilt.

good luck saki, your video on 6-max helped me a shitload

after retiring and freeing myself from the stress of poker I've got a new enthusiasm for life. Poker allows you to be a young baller by giving you so much easy money, but with a smart mind there are so many oppertunities out there. I think if you put some effort into school, networking, and thinking about businesses you'll get excited about life again and not worry about poker being a source of income.

My 3-week hawaii vacation at my uncle's house allowed me to think about non-poker stuff and now that I'm back at school I'm thinking of doing poker AI and hospital database software. In the end, it's just money...can't take it to the grave with you.

You need to learn how to lose and be comfortable with it. It seems the source of your stress and tilt is your inability to cope with loses. You really need to shut off that emotional connection to your bankroll. A bankroll is just working capital its not actual earnings. It tells you what stake to play and nothing else. You should be cashing out a % of your winnings on a daily basis and "re-investing" the rest in your bankroll. When you can afford to take a shot at a higher stake you do it, as it means more earnings. That is all. It should not be emotional or "a big deal" to lose. You make things far too stressful on yourself by having some kind of emotional concern about how much money your bankroll is. You should be enjoying the simple process of poker which is A) Playing and B) Tinkering with your game and trying to get better. Thats all this thing is SakiSaki, a game. A game with many levels/stakes which you try to learn to beat. Your bankroll is like your points in the game, it tells you what you can afford to play and take shots at, nothing else. Seeing your bankroll as real money/earnings is going to make you feel the stress of every dollar you lose and win. Thats a horrible thing for you mentally. You need to unlearn what you have learned about money when it comes to poker. The money in your BR is meaningless except for the information it gives you about what stake you are supposed to be playing at. Your earnings are what you cash-out and send to yourself on a weekly basis and that is what you can feel good about/derive satisfaction from. Having emotional feelings with regard to your bankroll and its daily/weekly/monthly fluctuations is just nuts unless you enjoy feeling like your on a crazy fucked up roller-coaster that swings up and down happy or sad with every big pot you play.

Hope this helps' best of luck mate.

Man, I am experiencing the same thing as you originally did with the move to 400NL (at FTP, no less). Every time I've taken a shot I've been beaten down pretty cruelly (-6.5k lifetime at that stake =_=)

Hang in there Saki, you have worked your way up to decent stakes u know you can beat the game, keep playing, keep studing the game and improving there isnt much more to say tbh, ive struggled too and many others have poker can be a rough rough game....

You didnt think we were making so much money at this age withouth effort did u? now this is where you EARN those dolars.