The Myth of Sysiphus and us and us and us

On September 10 2021 16:16 hiems wrote: https://youtu.be/g2aQ2e0ch8k I think that is the video rikd is talking about. Idk I thought his decision was a mistake. That being said I am getting more and more materialistic and I find myself lusting after random shit like watches, suits, cars, houses, etc. I feel like having more money isn't really just about living lavishly though you can not show off your money that much but women will respond better to you just because you have a bunch of money. Sex probably way better too. Agree that it never ends. I'd love to have one of those huge yachts but basically impossible for everyone.

It's an ego trap and the thing is, we all know it dont we? yet its like a siren's call luring people in, and yes high status will attract more women, but often not the kind of woman that will still make you happy 20 years after.

I've been blessed by not being particularly attracted to luxury, hell I buy packs of white and black t-shirts a few random shirts from Gap outlet and a couple of old jeans and thats all I wear for years, and when I fantasize about a distant future I see myself in a Cabin in the woods by a big lake doing some random wood work, hapiness is not pleasure, happiness is peace.

On September 10 2021 16:44 RiKD wrote: Baal, How is the xiaomi phone? My iphone 6 is on its last legs. I was considering going back to a flip phone but I think cheap Shanzhai Chinese phone is the way to go.

As much as I'd like to hate on chinese products, it has been great, no complains whatsoever and pretty cheap.

On September 10 2021 20:27 hiems wrote: I recently found out about this site "TagTheSponsor.com" where it exposes convos/pics between these Sheikhs convincing these instagram girls to fly out to Dubai to give them rim jobs and let them piss on them on a yacht. I've always wanted a boat after I saw this Croatian sex tape "Severina Vuckovic gets fucked on a boat" where some rich dude bangs her whilst pouring champagne on her tits like a boss and cumming on her face. Thats why to me a boat is the pinnacle. After that everything sort of tapers off in terms of experience imo. I am sort of a sex addict lol.

Thats just a Bilzerianesque fantasy, it doesn't have to do with sex, its all about ego.

The solution isn't for him to find some ghetto boat or do a Marge Simpson Channel outfit thing, its for him to realize how dumb that pursuit is.


I'm the most stern pro-free market defender here yet I'm more ascetic than 90% of the socialists lol

On September 11 2021 05:49 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 10 2021 16:16 hiems wrote: https://youtu.be/g2aQ2e0ch8k I think that is the video rikd is talking about. Idk I thought his decision was a mistake. That being said I am getting more and more materialistic and I find myself lusting after random shit like watches, suits, cars, houses, etc. I feel like having more money isn't really just about living lavishly though you can not show off your money that much but women will respond better to you just because you have a bunch of money. Sex probably way better too. Agree that it never ends. I'd love to have one of those huge yachts but basically impossible for everyone. It's an ego trap and the thing is, we all know it dont we? yet its like a siren's call luring people in, and yes high status will attract more women, but often not the kind of woman that will still make you happy 20 years after. I've been blessed by not being particularly attracted to luxury, hell I buy packs of white and black t-shirts a few random shirts from Gap outlet and a couple of old jeans and thats all I wear for years, and when I fantasize about a distant future I see myself in a Cabin in the woods by a big lake doing some random wood work, hapiness is not pleasure, happiness is peace.

Happiness is pleasure or more accurately joy. Peace is just more reliable and tends to linger a little longer.

On September 11 2021 06:00 Baalim wrote: The solution isn't for him to find some ghetto boat or do a Marge Simpson Channel outfit thing, its for him to realize how dumb that pursuit is. I'm the most stern pro-free market defender here yet I'm more ascetic than 90% of the socialists lol

Yeah, the problem which I kept forgetting to mention until your post is that hiems is likely some level of sex addict so he will always want more.

GTR, a Hugo Boss wardrobe, and nice house/condo is a good start for anyone if that is what they want but he may instantly feel less than and want more.

David Cho has access to $300 million and was miserable because of this. $1 billion is not going to make the problem better.

I know someone who has probably $10 million and lives that scaled up life and he loves it and would surely trade his life for having $100 million but doesn't dwell on anything and just lives a pretty good life.

Def respect to you Baal for running old cars into the ground and having a t-shirt and jeans uniform.

We only get 1 life so it is wise to live it how you want.

I like the word independent more than free but they are very similar. Corporations are totalitarian regimes and most governments these days are corporate oligarchies meaning they are totalitarian regimes with an illusion of democracy.

On September 11 2021 05:33 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 10 2021 08:53 Spitfiree wrote: I'm genuinely interested in your mindset behind that. Majority of Germans used to do the same thing and you could always see grandmas driving the newest Porsche. But what's the point of having money when you're old and don't have as much energy to do everything you wanted to do? Or do you only limit yourself in terms of material possessions but go all out on experiences? Like Perkins, I plan to "die with 0" (I guess I gotta read the book), I spend more on experiences but nothing to crazy, as I said im focusing more on making money, the timing with crypto is perfect to let it pass, so its a grind a couple more years and then I'm going to soft-retire and live off low-risk low-maintenance investments.

I've read (audiobooked) die with zero and it was pretty good.

I also audiobooked The Gambler not the dostoevsky one but the biography of Kirk Kerkorian and that was also good (basically die with billions) I feel like this is the polar opposite strategy of die with zero but I think both perspectives are valid.

On September 10 2021 20:27 hiems wrote: I recently found out about this site "TagTheSponsor.com" where it exposes convos/pics between these Sheikhs convincing these instagram girls to fly out to Dubai to give them rim jobs and let them piss on them on a yacht. I've always wanted a boat after I saw this Croatian sex tape "Severina Vuckovic gets fucked on a boat" where some rich dude bangs her whilst pouring champagne on her tits like a boss and cumming on her face. Thats why to me a boat is the pinnacle. After that everything sort of tapers off in terms of experience imo. I am sort of a sex addict lol.

with the amount of whores there is in Dubai one would've thought they wouldn't need to order from across the world

What is the line between intellectual curiosity and THE GRIND? Does it even matter?

For the record I'm not trying to be a billionaire but I just don't think you necessarily have to die with zero is all.

Why wouldn't you want to die with zero?

On September 12 2021 02:20 hiems wrote: For the record I'm not trying to be a billionaire but I just don't think you necessarily have to die with zero is all.

but die with zero is actually just to spend all your money since you can't take any into the grave, is not an advocacy for poverty, on the contrary.

Yeah I mean I wouldn't say no to being a billionaire or a hundred millionaire but I'm not trying to be a billionaire/hundred millionaire cause its not really realistic for me.

I'm just not convinced yet that you have to try and spend every bit of your money before you die. I still have to think about this one. I did like alot of concepts from his book though. I liked the idea of time-buckets instead of traditional bucket lists, because certain activities you get more enjoyment out of in your youth than in old age...And if I didnt 100% agree or like certain ideas, they were definitely pretty good to think about ideas from a different perspective.

You have 0 once you die, does he mean making sure he has nothing in overall wealth before he dies? If so that's pretty easy to do, you can give it kids or donate it all off before. I don't really get it. You can just set up some system with a person you trust to spend it after your dead, as many rich people do. Andrew Carnegie is still spending his money from beyond the grave for example.

On September 12 2021 13:13 Stroggoz wrote: You have 0 once you die, does he mean making sure he has nothing in overall wealth before he dies? If so that's pretty easy to do, you can give it kids or donate it all off before. I don't really get it. You can just set up some system with a person you trust to spend it after your dead, as many rich people do. Andrew Carnegie is still spending his money from beyond the grave for example.

The point is to spend your money while you are alive trying to squeeze the maximum joy out of it, the vast majority of wealthy people die with too much money in their bank accounts and keep working to accumulate for no good reason besides momentum and being used to it.

It's a dumb bourgeois fantasy. You never know when you are going to die, nothing is protecting you, especially not your wealth. Even fitness gurus die from heart attacks, cancer or accidents. Wanna die with zero? Start getting to zero now.

Its also bullshit because even if you are not a big spender you have a certain mentality about making more money that will not change. There isn't going to be a point where you will just fuck off into the woods and not think about trying to get into some investments beyond the 10% a year EFTs or whatever you think you'll be content doing.

You're not going to be much more free than you are now because freedom is more of a state of being than anything else. The mental grind doesn't end just because you get to become a millionaire. Growth is addictive, especially when your life is rather empty outside of business pursuits. You will do like everyone else who gets to a certain point wealth wise and have a will and give your money after you die because you will not know when death comes and will want to have as much as possible in the event that you will survive, even with a terminal illness.

yeah, i still dont get it...because as loco just said you can't actually control the point of death. I guess you could calculate the mean/median time until death and then spend a % of your wealth every year, starting high and regressively becoming less over time, and it would sorta work out. I cant imagine too many others wanting that kind of lifeplan as most would want to give a decent chunk of it to their kids or do philanthropy instead.

On September 13 2021 12:34 Stroggoz wrote: yeah, i still dont get it...because as loco just said you can't actually control the point of death. I guess you could calculate the mean/median time until death and then spend a % of your wealth every year, starting high and regressively becoming less over time, and it would sorta work out. I cant imagine too many others wanting that kind of lifeplan as most would want to give a decent chunk of it to their kids or do philanthropy instead.

y dont u just read the book then lol. OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE 500 dollar communist book written by PHD or some other twat for you to buy it!!!

he says die with zero means try to get close to zero as possible cant really die with zero cause u dont know when u gonna die.

regarding inheritance he introduces the idea of an early inheritance. ex. if you are 30 years older than your kids, and you die at 80 the money ur kids get at 50 will be less useful than if u gave it to them when you are 65 and they are 35 which makes sense. etc etc.he says the same thing with charity.

no one buy's 500 dollar phd books, they download them off libgen.

On September 13 2021 13:38 Stroggoz wrote: no one buy's 500 dollar phd books, they download them off libgen.

They are free for a reason cause its all propaganda.