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k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 05 2019 00:09. Posts 3448
Anyone have experiences with it? Thinking of trying it. On one hand, studies have shown that there's potential in using it to treat depression and anxiety. The former has been an on and off struggle for me. On the other hand, there seems to be a small risk in lasting negative effects, and can be especially dangerous to people who are genetically at risk of schizophrenia (which may be me). Girlfriend wants to try it for woowoo reasons. And I'm curious if it will help me and on the fence. Thoughts?


Other news, I quit poker, launched web dev business and hussling every day of the week to make it happen. Networking my brains off, calling, selling, pitching and exhibiting. It's tough.



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RiKD    United States. Aug 05 2019 00:27. Posts 5755

If you don't have problems with drugs or psychosis I would say why not?

You can start with a micro dose and a walk in the woods and scale up from there.

I've always found this website helpful:

erowid.com


Loco   Canada. Aug 05 2019 01:26. Posts 20013

You do more dangerous things than taking psilocybin every day. I wouldn't worry about it. And if you ever watch mainstream media, you are consuming the most potent drug in the history of the world, one which only has negative effects. Just make sure you feel safe in the space that you will be in during your experience.

Depression and anxiety are social problems, psilocybin isn't going to help you much with that, unless it helps you work through a specific fear that prevented you from being able to have meaningful social relationships in the first place.

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balakubak   . Aug 05 2019 03:56. Posts 102

Just try it lol. Everything they say about the "dangers" of these "drugs" are way overboard. BUT the trip could be difficult for some people. I wouldn't say it's a "bad trip". Just difficult. It's like therapy x1000 where the drugs shows you for who you really are, all the mistakes you made, or what a lousy person you are in some ways. Don't take it negatively, learn from it.


balakubak   . Aug 05 2019 03:59. Posts 102

Keeps the ego in check for some people.


k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 05 2019 04:51. Posts 3448


  On August 05 2019 00:26 Loco wrote:
You do more dangerous things than taking psilocybin every day. I wouldn't worry about it. And if you ever watch mainstream media, you are consuming the most potent drug in the history of the world, one which only has negative effects. Just make sure you feel safe in the space that you will be in during your experience.

Depression and anxiety are social problems, psilocybin isn't going to help you much with that, unless it helps you work through a specific fear that prevented you from being able to have meaningful social relationships in the first place.



Oh I plan on being in a safe place during the experience. The reason that my girlfriend is encouraging me to try it is because her $500/hr woowoo spiritual teacher thinks it will help me with my relationship insecurity issues that are causing problems. The spiritual teacher suggested we try psilocybin (specifically me) while in a room alone as she guides me on video call. She wants to insert hypnotic suggestions into my mind while in the hallucinogenic state to attempt to fix my underlying fears and trauma.


I know how wonky that sounds. But why not? Guess I'll try it. I'm just worried because one of first degree relatives likely has schizophrenia. I remember a poster here who tried a hallucinogen (ayahuasca I think) and developed schizophrenia.

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k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 05 2019 05:26. Posts 3448

RikD, Loco, what are your experiences with it ?

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Trav94   Canada. Aug 05 2019 13:09. Posts 1750

Once on a mushroom trip, I saw my brother go to the kitchen and open the cupboard to grab a mug to get some water. I thought that the mug was a flashlight that he had just emptied all the insides out of, and was using to drink out of.


Loco   Canada. Aug 05 2019 13:59. Posts 20013

Only did it once when I was a teen and it wasn't a strong enough dose to do anything profound. I just thought I was walking on the back of a gigantic turtle.

I wouldn't do anything that involves a $500/h rate for doing drugs. Your girlfriend shouldn't be trying to "fix" you by the way, that's not the purpose of a partner in a relationship, let alone with the help of some crank.

Those who make a peaceful revolution impossible, will make a violent revolution inevitable. 

Raidern   Brasil. Aug 05 2019 16:07. Posts 4228

im deeply scared of trying anything that causes illusions. i will die without this experience.

im a regular at nl5 

dnagardi   Hungary. Aug 05 2019 16:44. Posts 1646

i've been thinking of trying DMT for so long now
too bad its extremely difficult to get it here in Hungary


dnagardi   Hungary. Aug 05 2019 16:46. Posts 1646

I advise you to try it, but definitely not because your GF suggests.


RiKD    United States. Aug 05 2019 21:30. Posts 5755

Damn, I just posted a post and lost it. I'll probably be briefer.

I've never done shrooms. Why? I don't know. The time to try shrooms was when I was in Amsterdam in 2009. But, my friends and I just wanted to smoke weed all day. That's the gist of it. Then I got sober. Then I got obsessed. I talked to my psychiatrist openly about it. He was all for a lot of therapies and shrooms in general but not for me.

1.) I'm sober meaning I don't do drugs or drink alcohol. This can be easily rationalized. Bill Wilson, the founder of AA, did LSD. There are studies that show that shrooms decrease relapse and depression over a 6 month span. Meaning you could just take shrooms every 6 months instead of all sorts of pills and potions. There is also the spiritual awakening aspect to it. I might actually find myself obsessing about shrooms again now that I think of it. A lot of AA I don't necessarily adhere to or agree with. They would say that this is just the "monster" talking. Even though shrooms taken for therapeutic purposes is clearly different than me starting to pound Vicodin and vodka.

2.) My psychiatrist's bigger concern was that shrooms for someone who is Bipolar I (or schizophrenic) could lead to psychosis or manic episode. He said it's not worth it. Although, part of me says whatever dude I've been manic and it's pretty great until it's not. The fact that he was so on board the shrooms train but so adamant that they aren't for me I had to trust his opinion.

If you are over 30 with no psychotic incidences it's very VERY unlikely to develop. A family member that may or may not be schizophrenic is kind of a laughable anxiety.

Also, please don't go down that "spiritual advisor" route. Anyone who charges $500/hr is no spiritual advisor. My whole life I have gotten the best spiritual advice for free. What would Jesus do? What would the Buddha do? Think about it. Now, I am all for guided trips but go to a professional like someone involved with NYU or JHU. Not some crackpot hypnotic bullshit.

I remember the first time I heard this song I was like WHA WHOAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! and played it on repeat for a while. It was the music to some WoW raid my brother sent me. I kept re-watching the raid even though I didn't even really play WoW:


RiKD    United States. Aug 05 2019 21:46. Posts 5755

I forget to say from everything I read and everyone I talked to the best suggestion is to take a relatively small dose and go for a hike in the forest with trusted friend(s). Not, go on a Skype call with some "spiritual advisor" and get hypnotized. Would you be paying her $500/hr for this?


balakubak   . Aug 06 2019 05:12. Posts 102

In other times you take it, you just couldn't stop laughing that your gut hurts. An hour or so of this later, it's like "the laughing" becomes a reflex when you talk. Like Beavis and Butthead? Huhhuh-huhhuh, Heehee-heehee.

I didn't get it at that time, but it was like something was released and I felt so good and so relaxed after that trip. Like I would think about my biggest problem at the time (just broke up with a long time gf), and would think "meh, I'm cool". But now thinking back about it, I think that's when my mind was back to where it should be. Like it was flushed away of everything that shouldn't be there.


dnagardi   Hungary. Aug 07 2019 18:11. Posts 1646

if you try it, post a blog about the experience


devon06atX   Canada. Aug 12 2019 02:41. Posts 5405


  On August 05 2019 20:46 RiKD wrote:
I forget to say from everything I read and everyone I talked to the best suggestion is to take a relatively small dose and go for a hike in the forest with trusted friend(s). Not, go on a Skype call with some "spiritual advisor" and get hypnotized. Would you be paying her $500/hr for this?

Exactly this. Eat ~2 grams, and be in a comfortable setting.

And dump the girlfriend ffs


RiKD    United States. Aug 12 2019 03:21. Posts 5755

I don't think we have the info that he should dump the g/f. k4ir0s should do what he's feeling in his heart. No one is perfect. I have contempt for the "spiritual" but there is Spiritual in this world so it's tough.


RiKD    United States. Aug 12 2019 18:38. Posts 5755

Also, I just talked to my psychiatrist and she used some medical term I don't remember but there is a certain % of people that are predisposed to psychosis from shrooms. This is not including people with bipolar I or schizophrenia that the shrooms kick off a mania or psychotic event this is just normal folk who have this predisposition. No idea what % of people fall into that category but it may be something to research.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 13 2019 03:57. Posts 8634


  On August 05 2019 03:51 k4ir0s wrote:
$500/hr woowoo spiritual teacher



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