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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 29 2019 13:19. Posts 7174

70 minutes of awesomeness ?

I was wondering why are they even fighting when nobody dies and everybody gets saved at the last second 100 times ?
The ending could have been better


I think it was a even more cool option if Bran who said he will go away now took control of Arya and killed the Night King.
But besindes that i love the ending.

I really loved the first parts of the episode i found the 70minutes middle part very medicore and i loved the ending

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 29/04/2019 13:20

Raidern   Brasil. Apr 29 2019 15:23. Posts 4227


  On April 29 2019 08:34 Stroggoz wrote:
Here's some major spoiler for what's to come

+ Show Spoiler +




lol hope you just made that shit up and no new eps has leaked somehow

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NMcNasty    United States. Apr 29 2019 16:03. Posts 2013

I thought it was a worthy battle episode. I didn't really have a problem with the fog of war confusion, thought the sound and music were great, and it was suspenseful the whole way through. Given how ruthless the show can be I honestly felt there was a non-zero chance that they actually were going to go just full-Armageddon at the end and have everyone die.

The major issue for me though is that are/were just too many story arcs and no satisfying way to resolve them all in such a short time, which is a problem going back to last season. The show, being the best ever, set the bar very high for itself. I think we have a good episode in terms of vacuum entertainment value, but its a bit disappointing for the story as a whole. There needed to be more backstory to the night king. Just an evil guy who can raise the dead, fly dragons, is impervious to fire, and wants to conquer all of humanity but apparently it just takes a stabs to the leg to instantly destroy him and his entire army. The Lord of Light is a god (maybe?) who has a massive religious following across both continents, where non-believers are burnt alive, but ultimately he turns out to be good (I guess?), but really only contributes by making fire-swords that turn out to be useless. Or is he completely shaping Arya's destiny? Whatever?

There's a bit of hope for me in that there are 3 long episodes left. GoT seems to be more defined by its plot twists than its battle scenes. In season 6 you had the Battle of the Bastards episode before with the Winds of Winter episode, as in even though it seems the battle is the end, the GOAT-level stuff is saved for last. Still, it always seemed like the central theme of the show is that all the political intrigue is completely meaningless compared to the fight against straight evil. Remember season one opened with a white walkers scene. Even with dramatic/surprising endings with Cersei, or Jon/Daenyres, I think the priorities for this season are backwards.


whammbot   Belarus. Apr 29 2019 16:13. Posts 384

still way better than Endgame

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Apr 29 2019 17:40. Posts 4951

"Theon, thank you" (for holding them back just until Aria got there)

:D 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 29 2019 17:41. Posts 8870


  On April 29 2019 15:13 whammbot wrote:
still way better than Endgame


sad part is you re right


can someone expain to me what the fuck was Brann doing? Warging into ravens was so important?

Also apparently a youtuber made those predictions Stroggoz said, and he was right about previous predictions, so he most likely has a leak in the HBO studio ... kinda feelsbad would be a nice plot twist

 Last edit: 29/04/2019 17:45

Loco   Canada. Apr 29 2019 17:48. Posts 20012


  On April 29 2019 11:05 Spitfiree wrote:
What the fuck was that shit at the end?!?!?!??!

This was possible the worst fucking deus ex ever to be done on television. Holy fucking shit how can the writers be so fucking terrible. 70 Minutes of awesomeness to be ruined by their fucking stupidity (except the part where the dorthraki literally suicided themselves for no fucking reason whatsoever?!?!?!??!). I'm done expecting anything but trash plot from GoT tbh, if I knew there were more seasons to come I would've probably dropped the series right here. This was so fucking stupid it hurts me.

Show nested quote +



How are you sure?


I totally disagree with you. I thought that the dumbest thing about this episode was Daeny fucking up. The dothraki are brutish fighters who don't do anything but go head on into skirmishes, they're not strategic fighters who are expected to coordinate with groups other than their own and change their fighting style, unless they would receive the order from Daeny, so the stupidity falls back onto her (and Tyrion) if anything. But even if Daeny gave the order to fight strategically, imo it's believable that once they get infused with magical fire they'd confidently attack like this.

Then there is the dragon scene. After she's done helping Jon and clearing the way for him, she just sits there on her dragon with a dumb look on her face while a bunch of undead storm her dragon and start plunging their weapons into him. It's a totally unnecessary scene that is only there to make us worry about the survival of her dragon. The dragon has no purpose being on the ground anymore but we're given like 10-20 seconds of it freaking out and getting harmed before it finally decides to fly away.

The Arya scene had been planned for 3 years so its not a deus ex. The Red Lady prophecized that she would kill the NK many seasons ago. We even had Jon say previously in the season, at the exact same spot, "how did you sneak up on me?" to Arya. Only someone with her assassin skills could kill the NK if Jon couldn't make it in time to Bran, which there's every reason to think would probably happen. The one thing I didn't like about it is that she killed him with a "normal" dagger (even though that dagger has a history and was meant to kill Bran). I would have liked it if she had had a "double-dagger" made, one that splits into two like her other weapon, specifically for this.

Those who make a peaceful revolution impossible, will make a violent revolution inevitable.Last edit: 29/04/2019 18:14

FrinkX   United States. Apr 29 2019 19:11. Posts 7493


  The one thing I didn't like about it is that she killed him with a "normal" dagger (even though that dagger has a history and was meant to kill Bran). I would have liked it if she had had a "double-dagger" made, one that splits into two like her other weapon, specifically for this.



bran's dagger seems quite fitting to me

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 29 2019 20:26. Posts 7174

I think there is a general missconception about what bran has become.

I had this till last Episode , too

False Assumptions

Bran is a Starkboy who managed to gain godlike power by assembling the forces of the 3 eyed raven into him.
His goal is to achieve victory over the bad guys by helping the good guys.


Correct Assumptions

Bran is not a Starkboy anymore...
His body and mind are a vessel for the 3 eyed raven God of Knowledge who has only 2 reasons to exist
1.) Save everything that happens on his HDD
2.) Survive

Bran does not care about the good or bad guys and he doesnt do anything to help either side except for his own survival.

Bran is not human anymore and he is forbidden to interact in anything but his own survival
His purpouse is to be the God of knowledge not the God that helps the good guys win

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 29/04/2019 20:29

Zografa   Bulgaria. Apr 29 2019 21:05. Posts 956

about the leaks mentioned above:
there is this guy frikidoctor who leaked whole episode 1 of s8 and whole season 7 + some episodes of 6th season... so his predictions are here:
+ Show Spoiler +



Given the success rate of his leaks so far we can assume that those scenes will happen, the fun part is he thinks Jon and Danny both live

The episode was good in terms of battle scenes and dramatic sequences etc... the problems for me were the complete lack of strategy by both sides... wtf was that dothraki attack? We didnt see a single white walker till the very end and we know they are far more capable than the rest of the dead, dragon and wolf time were very little imo ez they could double it and include more Ghost+Nymeria battle scenes, i loved that this time jon could not save the day however it was way to obvious that Arya went for the NK after that Melissandra "blue eyes" line and we kind of knew that will come.

Also nobody really important died(for all of you look careful the end scenes - we see all of them alive - Tormund, Grey Worm, Jaime, Brienne, Podric, etc), yes Theon and Jorra both are cool guys but still they are not first tier characters. It would have been more legit if somebody important died.

In the end very good battle episode if we ignore the obvious strategic flaws on both sides. Also i loved how even in a battle episode they still put that Danny is evil small talk at some point(Tyrion and Sansa).

P.s Also how come a Valirian steel dagger(that was in the books Sam was reading in the citadel) is not a special weapon? Also it fits very good in the Arya's arc to be the NKs killer.

The fish call, the shark raise.Last edit: 29/04/2019 21:11

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 29 2019 21:24. Posts 8870

I would buy the "assassin" Arya part if they didn't have the scene where she was in a room with 5 undead and they noticed her. Then it would make perfect sense. Considering the NK has ultra-human ability to sense people , he had his co-commanders and was surrounded by hundreds of undead, the scene made no sense whatsoever... I do agree on the Daenerys's dragon scene, i was just thinking why the fuck doesnt he just start fucking flying, why are they both on the ground, it makes no sense.


Anyway, so Arya is Azor Ahai then? Does it even matter anymore? The whole plot connected to the white walkers just feels botched now and anyone connected to it doesn't matter anymore, except like Jon. They could've easily killed off Sam, Gilly, her kid, Bran, anyone from the free folk, anyone from the Brotherhood and it woulda been fine...

 Last edit: 29/04/2019 21:28

Zografa   Bulgaria. Apr 29 2019 21:34. Posts 956


  On April 29 2019 20:24 Spitfiree wrote:
I would buy the "assassin" Arya part if they didn't have the scene where she was in a room with 5 undead and they noticed her. Then it would make perfect sense. Considering the NK has ultra-human ability to sense people , he had his co-commanders and was surrounded by hundreds of undead, the scene made no sense whatsoever... I do agree on the Daenerys's dragon scene, i was just thinking why the fuck doesnt he just start fucking flying, why are they both on the ground, it makes no sense.


Anyway, so Arya is Azor Ahai then?



Azor Ahai and TPTWP are generally 2 different stories that both got combined by Melissandra in the books(but sitll they are somewhat different). In the show however there is only TPTWP and it is said to be Jon Snow or Danny by Melissandra(and Stannis before that). I dont know if the producers/screenwriters follow the legends and the myths like they are followed in the books. Azor Ahai also has a sword called "Lightbringer" that should be forged in a special way bla bla bla.. you know the story. That dosnt seem like its Arya at all. So either the producers completely abandoned that story line or we are yet to see something more about it.

The fish call, the shark raise.Last edit: 29/04/2019 21:36

Zografa   Bulgaria. Apr 29 2019 21:40. Posts 956


  On April 29 2019 20:24 Spitfiree wrote:

Anyway, so Arya is Azor Ahai then? Does it even matter anymore? The whole plot connected to the white walkers just feels botched now and anyone connected to it doesn't matter anymore, except like Jon. They could've easily killed off Sam, Gilly, her kid, Bran, anyone from the free folk, anyone from the Brotherhood and it woulda been fine...



Well Sam is like the story writer of this universe now - he will write the story after the wars are finished... u cant kill him(and Gilly and the kid). Bran... i dont know im confused about him cant comment. Berric is dead(or u dont consider him Brotherhood?). Tormund is a character that is so likable, funny and unorthodox that i think it has a thick plot armor.

The fish call, the shark raise.Last edit: 29/04/2019 21:41

impact69   Mexico. Apr 29 2019 22:49. Posts 307


  On April 29 2019 20:05 Zografa wrote:
about the leaks mentioned above:
there is this guy frikidoctor who leaked whole episode 1 of s8 and whole season 7 + some episodes of 6th season... so his predictions are here:
+ Show Spoiler +



Given the success rate of his leaks so far we can assume that those scenes will happen, the fun part is he thinks Jon and Danny both live

The episode was good in terms of battle scenes and dramatic sequences etc... the problems for me were the complete lack of strategy by both sides... wtf was that dothraki attack? We didnt see a single white walker till the very end and we know they are far more capable than the rest of the dead, dragon and wolf time were very little imo ez they could double it and include more Ghost+Nymeria battle scenes, i loved that this time jon could not save the day however it was way to obvious that Arya went for the NK after that Melissandra "blue eyes" line and we kind of knew that will come.

Also nobody really important died(for all of you look careful the end scenes - we see all of them alive - Tormund, Grey Worm, Jaime, Brienne, Podric, etc), yes Theon and Jorra both are cool guys but still they are not first tier characters. It would have been more legit if somebody important died.

In the end very good battle episode if we ignore the obvious strategic flaws on both sides. Also i loved how even in a battle episode they still put that Danny is evil small talk at some point(Tyrion and Sansa).

P.s Also how come a Valirian steel dagger(that was in the books Sam was reading in the citadel) is not a special weapon? Also it fits very good in the Arya's arc to be the NKs killer.





you forgot to put that Dani and Jon thing in to the spoiler, not everyone is gonna read it


Loco   Canada. Apr 29 2019 22:54. Posts 20012


  On April 29 2019 18:11 FrinkX wrote:
Show nested quote +



bran's dagger seems quite fitting to me


It's fitting for sure, I just think this version makes the NK something less of a supervillain, and it makes Arya something less of an assassin (at least, if you think she didn't plan to be stopped). The NK clearly sees the dagger falling and he just doesn't react, which makes him seem less competent than we would predict, and it makes it feel like Arya might have just been lucky. If he was tricked by a special dagger, it would do better justice to both characters.

Those who make a peaceful revolution impossible, will make a violent revolution inevitable. 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 30 2019 00:53. Posts 4487

The dothraki charge makes no sense, all cavalry armies were cavalry armies for a reason, because of the land they lived on and the superior logistics. Mongol's were dominant because they were surrounded by large spaces of land where cavalry can kite with archer fire. They had vast area's of land to kite armies over, basically cannot be beaten in an open field. (which the north also has plenty of). It does not make sense that dothraki would lack strategy, they are experts at war and a culture that bases themselves entirely around the logistical superiority of horses is not going to do stupid charges in battle. Like i said the show lacks attention to detail. Also if you have seige weapons+defensive structures, and the other's dont, you just fire at them until they come to you.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 30 2019 01:31. Posts 4487

idk it seem pretty clear the night king is a mediocre general. This is his first military campaign (in perhaps a very long time), he shoulda protected himself a lot more and just left castles alone and just added the peasants to his army. It's like what artosis says, when ur ahead..get more ahead. Take the rest of the map instead of attacking.

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 30 2019 09:02. Posts 7174

Concerning the Spoilers


God it feels so 2004 writing that spoiler command code lol.-... //+ Show Spoiler +

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 30/04/2019 09:03

Zografa   Bulgaria. Apr 30 2019 11:05. Posts 956


  On April 30 2019 08:02 PplusAD wrote:
Concerning the Spoilers


God it feels so 2004 writing that spoiler command code lol.-... //+ Show Spoiler +



[spoiler]Well kind of unknown how and who will he betray but he said there will be a trial and he will be the one to be judged. We saw those small moments that are building up ever since s7 - he has problems while doing his job as hand of the queen - we even had this small moment where Sansa told him that the Dragon Queen is a problem for their relationship - so this can be the "one for love" betrayal from the books

The fish call, the shark raise. 

Zografa   Bulgaria. Apr 30 2019 13:14. Posts 956

Btw that guy Ramin Djawadi ... omg the sound/music during this episode - he needs to win an Emmy or whatever the most prestigious award for his position is - this episode would have been like 50% lower quality if it wasnt the music.

The fish call, the shark raise. 

 
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