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RiKD    United States. Jul 11 2018 23:02. Posts 8548

I don't think I was an unwanted child. The compulsion, the assumed pleasure (in the moment and having a child as culture dictates), and the selfishness are still profound.

This "bet" you speak of is wildly selfish and irresponsible.

If someone is alive then life matters to them. Unless they are so deep in a hole of depression then life might not matter to these people. There is no case in which everyone will be happy.

It's not as simple as ease and difficulty. I am here alive typing: I appreciate life. I have spent a lot of time in my life contemplating the good life. Child birth is a vicious cycle. False immortality-project after false immortality project all in the name of narcissism, vanity, and the repression of death. I don't even care to go into the effects on our Earth and future generations. Having a child is not difficult. By your statistics that you seem to love people do it all the time so it must be rather easy. (It is rather easy).


RiKD    United States. Jul 11 2018 23:11. Posts 8548

Anyways, I'd rather discuss Eros which is somewhat related.

Inspiration, creative, sexual yearning, love, and/or desire. Sexual drive, libido.


nlloser60   . Jul 11 2018 23:24. Posts 304

I think I am missing something here. Explain it to me please, because I am trying to understand you .


1) What is more selfish, having sex and not getting pregnant or having sex and getting pregnant?
2) assumed pleasure - in the moment. Contraception is widely spread these days.
3) assumed pleasure - as culture dictates. Is it really a culture or a biology of women? Was there "thought" a couple of millions of years ago?
4) having a child is not difficult in general, but not having a child, nowadays, is not difficult either.

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RiKD    United States. Jul 12 2018 02:02. Posts 8548

1.) Having sex and getting pregnant
2.) Yes, of course I am heavily pro contraceptives.
3.) I think a lot of women get pregnant because that is what they think will make them happy or think that it is their duty or not even think and just pop children out. A child is an object of the parent's vanity and narcissism. Much of society and culture pushes them in the direction of having kids. I mean it's all sides. Traditions, family, popular culture. It's in capitalism's best interests as well. The more consumers and consumption the "better."

Many women are capable of having kids that doesn't mean they should. What's wrong with adopting a child?

I am not the best at anthropology from a long, long time ago. I think people probably enjoyed unsafe sex and women got pregnant whether that was rape, fuck buddy situations, or loving partnerships.

4.) I would agree


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 12 2018 03:58. Posts 5296

i remember Thracian culture roughly 2500 years ago celebrated when ppl died and mourned when they were born; reason being was that death was an end to suffering and being born into this world meant tthey will have to endure a lot of suffering. Life probably sucked in Thrace during that time though.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 12/07/2018 03:59

RiKD    United States. Jul 12 2018 15:57. Posts 8548

Eros shows the way. Philosophy is the translation of eros into logos. Heidegger follows Plato's theory of eros when he remarks that the beat of the god's wing touches him as soon as he makes a substantial step in his thinking and ventures onto untrodden paths.

Eros is called philosophos, the "friend of wisdom," in Plato. The philosopher is a friend, a lover. Here, the lover is not an outward personality – an empirical circumstance – but "a presence that is intrinsic to thought, a condition of possibility of thought itself, a living category, a transcendental lived reality." Thinking, in the strong sense, begins with eros. To be able to think, one must first have been a friend, a lover. Without eros thinking loses all vitality and turmoil, and becomes repetitive and reactive. Eros infuses thinking with desire for the atopic Other.

Byung-Chul Han, The Agony of Eros


RiKD    United States. Jul 13 2018 16:47. Posts 8548


  On July 12 2018 02:58 Stroggoz wrote:
i remember Thracian culture roughly 2500 years ago celebrated when ppl died and mourned when they were born; reason being was that death was an end to suffering and being born into this world meant tthey will have to endure a lot of suffering. Life probably sucked in Thrace during that time though.



Thrace was ahead of the curve! Although my position would be that conception is bad, birth is good, death is bad. Once that pile of goo becomes a sentient little critter we have to do everything in our power to give it the good life. Death is bad in that it annihilates. If someone has a really hopeless, and debilitating illness suicide and death become acceptable. Digging a deeper and deeper hole of (narcissistic) depression is very sad and a sign of the culture but I do believe there are ways out.

I don't know anything about Thrace (besides what was written above) but I always wonder how life is in some of these other societies. What about the Greece of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle?

Is our current society really the best we've seen? It can't be, right?

What about the small anarchist collectivist tribes of yesteryear? That might hit the sweet spot.

Facebook, iPhones, twitter, and even me continuously writing in these blogs are not the step in the right direction. Depression and anxiety abound. Neoliberalism is our new dictator and barely no one even knows it.


RiKD    United States. Jul 15 2018 03:52. Posts 8548

I am compelled to post once again. The more I type the more that gets unveiled and the more transparent I become. There is no good reason for this. There is no real cult value to my blogs. There is also no real exhibition. I am not selling anything. I am in some ways anonymous but not really. My blogs are unnecessary. I think there is more meaning here than a selfie but it is in the same family. I have to find other stuff to do with my time. Sometimes I don't feel like reading ALL day.


 
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